Add another $2.5m for Lu retiring.
- 1970vintage

I think he’s going to get the “Marian Hossa itch” and go on LTIR — he’s had enough injuries in his career to warrant that.

I guess you never heard of a Hockey Trade
- VANTEL

Nobody is trading a top 3 pick. Hughes would look great centering Laine though, you troll.

Potentially yes, they only have 9 forwards, 4 dmen and 1 goaltender signed for next year. If they sign Edler to 6 million a year, Boeser to 6 million and year, and get all their RFA's signed, there's only so much room left for a 10 million dollar UFA forward and a 5 million dollar defenseman, two things they really need.

**runs to crunch numbers lol**

You're right, if they move a contract like Sutter or Gudbranson it shouldn't be an issue.
- LeftCoaster

I bet Motte Lievo Goldobin Ganlund will cost a bundle . And if you bring on those hefty paychecks of MacEwen Gaudette Hughes and maybe OJ we will surely press up against the cap ceiling.

Didn't you tell me last week it is too early for Canucks to go after big names when I said we should go after Dougie Hamilton ? So I guess that week off in Mexico sure brought them closer to being more ready . Just asking seeing I am two faced and all that?

Nobody is trading a top 3 pick. Hughes would look great centering Laine though, you troll.


- Pres.cup

Well Kypreos says Laine is looked at possibly being signed short term or dealt is becoming possible but I guess a troll from HB knows more.

https://dobberprospects.com/cam-robinsons-2019-nhl-draft-rankings-top-100-february-2019/

New draft rankings for Robinson.

If Van can get Kirby Dach at 10.

Did the lotto sim this morning and I got LA, EDM, CHI.
- manvanfan

Ryan Biech was on SN650 Canucks lunch last week and said Dach is sliding down. He was also asked about Cozens . The question was " Is Cozens really that good or is it because of hiss size?" He said it was his size that is driving up his ranking that he takes many games off and does not do a lot .

I bet Motte Lievo Goldobin Ganlund will cost a bundle . And if you bring on those hefty paychecks of MacEwen Gaudette Hughes and maybe OJ we will surely press up against the cap ceiling.

Didn't you tell me last week it is too early for Canucks to go after big names when I said we should go after Dougie Hamilton ? So I guess that week off in Mexico sure brought them closer to being more ready . Just asking seeing I am two faced and all that?
- VANTEL

RFA's will add up, don't kid yourself, Demko, Boeser, Hutton, Leivo, Motte & Goldobin could cost you 15 million dollars collectively. Add Edler to that and you're at 21 million dollars. Which gives you around 11 million to spend on a UFA to be more competitive next year.

You've either misinterpreted what I said or didn't care to read it. UFA's are free, they don't cost you assets, Dougie Hamilton would cost you first and foremost a 1st round pick, plus, Virtanen & Juolevi (as an example). Not something I think they're in a position to do.

RFA's will add up, don't kid yourself, Demko, Boeser, Hutton, Leivo, Motte & Goldobin could cost you 15 million dollars collectively. Add Edler to that and you're at 21 million dollars. Which gives you around 11 million to spend on a UFA to be more competitive next year.

You've either misinterpreted what I said or didn't care to read it. UFA's are free, they don't cost you assets, Dougie Hamilton would cost you first and foremost a 1st round pick, plus, Virtanen & Juolevi (as an example). Not something I think they're in a position to do.
- LeftCoaster

I think I can safely say that with 35-40 mil in cap space this summer and about 8-10 RFAs and promotions from Utica we will not be in cap difficulty . And even in two and three years out Beagle Rouessels and Erikssons contracts will not hurt us. Tanev Sutter and Gudbrandson all expire after two more years

Ryan Biech was on SN650 Canucks lunch last week and said Dach is sliding down. He was also asked about Cozens . The question was " Is Cozens really that good or is it because of hiss size?" He said it was his size that is driving up his ranking that he takes many games off and does not do a lot .
- VANTEL

I listened to Biech on 650 yesterday.

People are always going to see things differently. Cozens is a good player. Skates really well. Has a decent shot but his stats have gone way up with the additions that Lethbridge made. Sound a bit like someone else who showed really well in junior and has struggled in the NHL. (Virtanen). Not saying Cozens will struggle because I think his IQ is higher than Virtanens but in terms of picking Cozens over Dach. That will never happen for me.

Dach is pure IQ player. He's big, strong on the puck and he has room to become a better skater and work on his shot.

I don't see Cozens with top line upside. I see him more Horvat upside than Giroux/Getzlaf as I see Dach.

Krebs is not much different for me than Cozens. Lots of speed and a pretty good shot but doesn't have the IQ. You watch the highlights and they score a lot of their goals by skating by defenders.

RFA's will add up, don't kid yourself, Demko, Boeser, Hutton, Leivo, Motte & Goldobin could cost you 15 million dollars collectively. Add Edler to that and you're at 21 million dollars. Which gives you around 11 million to spend on a UFA to be more competitive next year.

You've either misinterpreted what I said or didn't care to read it. UFA's are free, they don't cost you assets, Dougie Hamilton would cost you first and foremost a 1st round pick, plus, Virtanen & Juolevi (as an example). Not something I think they're in a position to do.
- LeftCoaster

I agree with you 110%, this team isn't in any position to be trading their first round pick, which Hamilton would definitely cost you as a starter. Try and get a top six forward and continue building through the draft.

I'm all for trading Goldobin, Sutter or Gudbranson for upgrades in other areas though.

I think I can safely say that with 35-40 mil in cap space this summer and about 8-10 RFAs and promotions from Utica we will not be in cap difficulty . And even in two and three years out Beagle Rouessels and Erikssons contracts will not hurt us. Tanev Sutter and Gudbrandson all expire after two more years
- VANTEL

Yes I agree, which I said in my post to Don, they do have room to add a guy like Stone at nine million right now if they wanted to. To also add a four million dollar defenseman though, they're gonna need to move a contract, which in all likelihood will happen.

Long story short, they're in a good position to go after a top six ufa.

I agree with you 110%, this team isn't in any position to be trading their first round pick, which Hamilton would definitely cost you as a starter. Try and get a top six forward and continue building through the draft.

I'm all for trading Goldobin, Sutter or Gudbranson for upgrades in other areas though.
- Pacificgem

You will be pleased to know Benning said yesterday they are not trading draft picks or Edler.

Locking in Edler means Hutton may no longer be safe and could be trade bait. Do you pay him 3 mil or promote Sautner? I don't know.

I would be fully on board with trading a guy like Virtanen and OJ for a upgrade on D .

Everyone is entitled to their opinion but I hope Canucks go heavy on the D with their picks this year. You can always trade a D prospect and get more value back down the road.

I bet Motte Lievo Goldobin Ganlund will cost a bundle . And if you bring on those hefty paychecks of MacEwen Gaudette Hughes and maybe OJ we will surely press up against the cap ceiling.

Didn't you tell me last week it is too early for Canucks to go after big names when I said we should go after Dougie Hamilton ? So I guess that week off in Mexico sure brought them closer to being more ready . Just asking seeing I am two faced and all that?
- VANTEL

Lol don't forget to add some racist stuff...# narratives !

Lol don't forget to add some racist stuff...# narratives !
- Bullfrog77

No need . Someone will say I said it anyways.

I think I can safely say that with 35-40 mil in cap space this summer and about 8-10 RFAs and promotions from Utica we will not be in cap difficulty . And even in two and three years out Beagle Rouessels and Erikssons contracts will not hurt us. Tanev Sutter and Gudbrandson all expire after two more years
- VANTEL

Projected cap space from capfriendly right now is $32,041,667 for next year.

Projected cap space from capfriendly right now is $32,041,667 for next year.
- LeftCoaster

That is based on 79.5 mil. Bettman says it should go to 83 mil.

You will be pleased to know Benning said yesterday they are not trading draft picks or Edler.

Locking in Edler means Hutton may no longer be safe and could be trade bait. Do you pay him 3 mil or promote Sautner? I don't know.

I would be fully on board with trading a guy like Virtanen and OJ for a upgrade on D .

Everyone is entitled to their opinion but I hope Canucks go heavy on the D with their picks this year. You can always trade a D prospect and get more value back down the road.
- VANTEL

Yes I heard, good news for those of us not wanting to jump the gun, like acquiring a Dougie Hamilton. Personally I'd like to keep Hutton for a third pairing guy with Stecher, Quinn can hopefully jump into the second pairing spot but he needs a defensively reliable partner because he's going to have some growing pains in my opinion.

I was watching the highlights from last night and that Sanheim kid in Philadelphia is just coming into his own, they developed him nicely, he's only 22. Juolevi is 20, I want no part of trading him at this point.

That is based on 79.5 mil. Bettman says it should go to 83 mil.
- VANTEL

Yes....I'll wait and see what it is when officially announced. I think we can safely say we'll have 34-35 million. Not 35-40 as you stated.

Well Kypreos says Laine is looked at possibly being signed short term or dealt is becoming possible but I guess a troll from HB knows more.
- VANTEL

Ummm..... the discussion was that you said there was no dynamic centers with speed in this poop draft, including the top three, i'm just pointing out that you're wrong even though there IS no way Winnipeg is picking top three.

Yes I heard, good news for those of us not wanting to jump the gun, like acquiring a Dougie Hamilton. Personally I'd like to keep Hutton for a third pairing guy with Stecher, Quinn can hopefully jump into the second pairing spot but he needs a defensively reliable partner because he's going to have some growing pains in my opinion.

I was watching the highlights from last night and that Sanheim kid in Philadelphia is just coming into his own, they developed him nicely, he's only 22. Juolevi is 20, I want no part of trading him at this point.
- Pacificgem

Again I will say each to their own but I hardly see how it is jumping the gun. Benning has been here for 5 years and we have been bottom feeders for 5 of 6 years. That to me seems like slow boat to China (Sorry if racist comment) and not jumping the gun. How long are you hoping to stay at the bottom for?

I listened to Biech on 650 yesterday.

People are always going to see things differently. Cozens is a good player. Skates really well. Has a decent shot but his stats have gone way up with the additions that Lethbridge made. Sound a bit like someone else who showed really well in junior and has struggled in the NHL. (Virtanen). Not saying Cozens will struggle because I think his IQ is higher than Virtanens but in terms of picking Cozens over Dach. That will never happen for me.

Dach is pure IQ player. He's big, strong on the puck and he has room to become a better skater and work on his shot.

I don't see Cozens with top line upside. I see him more Horvat upside than Giroux/Getzlaf as I see Dach.

Krebs is not much different for me than Cozens. Lots of speed and a pretty good shot but doesn't have the IQ. You watch the highlights and they score a lot of their goals by skating by defenders.
- manvanfan

Dach looks like strome to me, not fast enough to make the jump.

Yes I heard, good news for those of us not wanting to jump the gun, like acquiring a Dougie Hamilton. Personally I'd like to keep Hutton for a third pairing guy with Stecher, Quinn can hopefully jump into the second pairing spot but he needs a defensively reliable partner because he's going to have some growing pains in my opinion.

I was watching the highlights from last night and that Sanheim kid in Philadelphia is just coming into his own, they developed him nicely, he's only 22. Juolevi is 20, I want no part of trading him at this point.
- Pacificgem

I was in the Philly thread the other day asking about Sanheim whether they were a bit disappointed in where he was drafted and how he has played so far. They like him and think he is still growing and could be a top pairing defender.

Instantly they thought I was claiming he was a bust.

Ummm..... the discussion was that you said there was no dynamic centers with speed in this poop draft, including the top three, i'm just pointing out that you're wrong even though there IS no way Winnipeg is picking top three.
- Pres.cup

Again an actual insider says one thing but a troll from HB says another thing . Who to believe ?

Yes I agree, which I said in my post to Don, they do have room to add a guy like Stone at nine million right now if they wanted to. To also add a four million dollar defenseman though, they're gonna need to move a contract, which in all likelihood will happen.

Long story short, they're in a good position to go after a top six ufa.
- LeftCoaster

Emphasis on the singular.

If we hadn't signed trash last offseason then we could sign two top end free agents instead of one.

playoffs

Dach looks like strome to me, not fast enough to make the jump.
- Pres.cup

Dylan? Strome the guy who now has 21 points in 27 games? Strome always had better numbers thanks to his wingers.

Said the same thing about Claude Giroux too. Foot speed would be a problem.

I love when Armchair GMs want to go out and buy 2 or 3 overpriced free agents and sit and whine about cap space . Let's go sign Stone and Eriksson for 6 years 20 mil and then say they hate a 3 mil contract for 4 years.