‘‘Yeah, of course,’’ he said. ‘‘We had so much chemistry together. It was fun playing with him. Artemi’s a great kid, too, so we had a lot of fun off the ice, and I think it translated on the ice because we were having so much fun.


https://chicago.suntimes....nite-with-artemi-panarin/

Optimistic write up about Entwhistle.

https://www.secondcityhoc...sis-ohl-guelph-storm-2019

‘‘Yeah, of course,’’ he said. ‘‘We had so much chemistry together. It was fun playing with him. Artemi’s a great kid, too, so we had a lot of fun off the ice, and I think it translated on the ice because we were having so much fun.


https://chicago.suntimes....nite-with-artemi-panarin/
- EnzoD

I think if Panarin chooses to return to Chicago, it will tell us just how much he likes playing with Kane. Hawks are unlikely to offer him the most money (they shouldn't break the bank on him) and Panarin might decide he wants to join a team that is in contention now, but if he does decide to come to Chicago on a reasonable deal, that will really tell the story.

But has Stan lost some leverage due to thinking he has a playoff team or that ShovelFace WON"T allow public proclamations to the contrary and moves to be made when there was leverage?

Sportsnet: Leafs’ Muzzin trade hints at what’s to come in buyer’s market https://www.sportsnet.ca/...whats-come-buyers-market/
- Mr Ricochet

Mr. R - remember something about the writer of this article. He works in the Maple Leaf centric fishbowl, appears on every Maple Leaf game telecast and is part of the 2nd period HNIC panel on Saturday night. So he's happy as hell to see the Leafs acquire Muzzin for a relatively cheap price because it increases the Leafs chances of a long playoff run where the TV ratings and price of NHL merchandise will be sky high. Bettman will never admit it, but in many ways the Leafs run the NHL for TV ratings, press coverage and $ in the door. Toronto being good and winning pads the NHL coffers. And thats why Bettman won't ever challenge MLSE about putting a 2nd team in TO which it could easily support.

So now it might be a buyers market he says? We"ll see. Injuries to key players on other playoff teams will have a bearing on that. Tampa and Boston will spend big to acquire if they think its necessary. So will Calgary, Vegas, Pittsburgh, SJ and Nashville. The question is whether the Hawks have anybody these teams want and need. Thats really the crux of the matter.

Good posting guys, great discussion, I even like Powerenforcer's comments. I have settled back toward more a lurker mode, but I did want to give a to this blog. I really like Justin's writing a lot.
- kwolf68

Thanks Kwolf.

Mr. R - remember something about the writer of this article. He works in the Maple Leaf centric fishbowl, appears on every Maple Leaf game telecast and is part of the 2nd period HNIC panel on Saturday night. So he's happy as hell to see the Leafs acquire Muzzin for a relatively cheap price because it increases the Leafs chances of a long playoff run where the TV ratings and price of NHL merchandise will be sky high. Bettman will never admit it, but in many ways the Leafs run the NHL for TV ratings, press coverage and $ in the door. Toronto being good and winning pads the NHL coffers. And thats why Bettman won't ever challenge MLSE about putting a 2nd team in TO which it could easily support.

So now it might be a buyers market he says? We"ll see. Injuries to key players on other playoff teams will have a bearing on that. Tampa and Boston will spend big to acquire if they think its necessary. So will Calgary, Vegas, Pittsburgh, SJ and Nashville. The question is whether the Hawks have anybody these teams want and need. Thats really the crux of the matter.
- RickJ

I think plenty of playoff teams would want Saad or Murphy to add depth. Murphy on the 3rd pair as he's played this year would boost plenty of teams. Saad on line 2/3, if playing to his potential, is a big boost. I'm just not sure why the Hawks trade these guys as they are young enough to be part of a the rebuild.....

Optimistic write up about Entwhistle.

https://www.secondcityhoc...sis-ohl-guelph-storm-2019
- boilermaker100

This is my buddy Ian who wrote this article. Great guy and solid piece.

I have some Entwhistle content coming up in the future as well!

The goalie situation is merky at best because of the Crawford situation.

If Crawford was 100% healthy and didn't have these concussion issues, I would have said that he would have been reupped for a couple years at similar or just above his current salary.

Now, things have changed and I think the Hakws might have just got really lucky with the way Delia has progressed. He has entered the conversation of future starter for them however, it's waaaayyyy to early to deem him that. They still need a plan b, c and d.

The smart move would be to resign Delia to a 2-year deal with the first year a 2-way and the second a 1-way. This buys them flexibility with their situation.

In terms of organizational depth, they have soured on Forsberg it sounds like, and they are still figuring out what they have in Lankinen. Outside of that, Gravel is the only other guy worth discussing and he's still so young.

Long answer, long... I would assume the Hawks have a few different options in mind but if you do see the Hawks bring in a more proven goalie via trade in the next 6 months or so, that might signal the end of Crawford.
- Justin Lowe

Like the whole post and because of the uncertainty of Crow have cried out loud to treat Delia as a starter at the NHL level to see what they have and to get a better feel of their organIzational goaltending. Do not blow this chance by going 50/50 with starts between Delia and Ward.

Hawks got lucky Crow got another concussion in November/December than in February/March. Now they get a longer look at Delia, or anyone else, unless they do the idiotic and split starts with Ward.

I think if Panarin chooses to return to Chicago, it will tell us just how much he likes playing with Kane. Hawks are unlikely to offer him the most money (they shouldn't break the bank on him) and Panarin might decide he wants to join a team that is in contention now, but if he does decide to come to Chicago on a reasonable deal, that will really tell the story.
- breadbag

Read, I believe, on TSN site that we may be looking at something like $11M for Panarin on his next deal. He is a nice player but not elite enough to command those kind of dollars.

I'll second this Kwolf. As someone that sticks to their guns and goes their own way, I do like seeing all the discussion, even when we don't all agree. We always get some things we didn't consider and then the Hawks do something out of left field that 99% of us didn't see coming and we all have to rethink things.

Great blog, keep it up!
- breadbag

Thanks BB.

This team may not make the playoffs but that won't stop us from having Championship level conversations.

... sorry that was weak. Ha.

Anyway... keep up the great chats everyone.

Read, I believe, on TSN site that we may be looking at something like $11M for Panarin on his next deal. He is a nice player but not elite enough to command those kind of dollars.
- 67hawks

$11mil for the Rangers = $9mil for the Hawks/BFF Kaner

This is my buddy Ian who wrote this article. Great guy and solid piece.

I have some Entwhistle content coming up in the future as well!
- Justin Lowe

And here's a link to another Entwhistle article by the same writer.

https://www.secondcityhoc...l-guelph-storm-trade-2019

Like the whole post and because of the uncertainty of Crow have cried out loud to treat Delia as a starter at the NHL level to see what they have and to get a better feel of their organIzational goaltending. Do not blow this chance by going 50/50 with starts between Delia and Ward.

Hawks got lucky Crow got another concussion in November/December than in February/March. Now they get a longer look at Delia, or anyone else, unless they do the idiotic and split starts with Ward.
- Mr Ricochet

I agree that Delia needs the experience and the Hawks have to see what they have in him, but I think they must shelter him and not have him face 40 shots a game. Otherwise he may turn into a Forsberg due to the shell shock. There are 33 games left, so give him 18-20 starts.

Speaking of Panarin, Barstool has a "scoop" about what and who was behind the trade. He cites people in and formerly with the org (who his sources are beyond Darling, I have no idea) claiming that McD was the driving force behind the trade due to Panarin's playoff performance.

Now, if I was a betting woman, and it was McD, I'd say his decision factors were a comparison of the NSH series performance to Panarin's World's performance immediately thereafter in light of the "tired" excuse, and his public apology for the years-old interview earlier that season.

If true, has he recognized the error of his ways and is OK with a renewed push for Artemi OR is this pablum for the fans who are quite vocally still upset over the move?

https://www.barstoolsport...pologizing-to-stan-bowman

Read, I believe, on TSN site that we may be looking at something like $11M for Panarin on his next deal. He is a nice player but not elite enough to command those kind of dollars.
- 67hawks

IMO, anyone that gives him 11 million is making a mistake. Maybe if he had 10 more goals at this point in the season he'd be in that class of player. I don't think he will get that much. This UFA class has some options at forward and Panarin isn't the only fish. Also, maybe this is me, but I think wingers just don't garner as much as Centers when it comes to value on the market.

I think plenty of playoff teams would want Saad or Murphy to add depth. Murphy on the 3rd pair as he's played this year would boost plenty of teams. Saad on line 2/3, if playing to his potential, is a big boost. I'm just not sure why the Hawks trade these guys as they are young enough to be part of a the rebuild.....
- EnzoD

Trade Saad. Make a trade to bring Saad back. Trade Saad again?

Mr. R - remember something about the writer of this article. He works in the Maple Leaf centric fishbowl, appears on every Maple Leaf game telecast and is part of the 2nd period HNIC panel on Saturday night. So he's happy as hell to see the Leafs acquire Muzzin for a relatively cheap price because it increases the Leafs chances of a long playoff run where the TV ratings and price of NHL merchandise will be sky high. Bettman will never admit it, but in many ways the Leafs run the NHL for TV ratings, press coverage and $ in the door. Toronto being good and winning pads the NHL coffers. And thats why Bettman won't ever challenge MLSE about putting a 2nd team in TO which it could easily support.

So now it might be a buyers market he says? We"ll see. Injuries to key players on other playoff teams will have a bearing on that. Tampa and Boston will spend big to acquire if they think its necessary. So will Calgary, Vegas, Pittsburgh, SJ and Nashville. The question is whether the Hawks have anybody these teams want and need. Thats really the crux of the matter.
- RickJ

So you think the writer's objective is to pump the Leaf's tires in this article? Your reasoning makes sense but IMO so does the assertion that there are a lot of solid to excellent players available to contenders and as a result a franchise, the Hawks for our purposes, may get left holding the bag (a Gus for instance) if they wait too long.

But then I wonder if that's more true this yr, so many excellent players available, than most other yrs? That if this is a buyers market this yr is that an aberration?

IMO, anyone that gives him 11 million is making a mistake. Maybe if he had 10 more goals at this point in the season he'd be in that class of player. I don't think he will get that much. This UFA class has some options at forward and Panarin isn't the only fish. Also, maybe this is me, but I think wingers just don't garner as much as Centers when it comes to value on the market.
- breadbag

There's no way he gets more than the $9mil his Comrade Kucherov got IMO.

I think if Panarin chooses to return to Chicago, it will tell us just how much he likes playing with Kane. Hawks are unlikely to offer him the most money (they shouldn't break the bank on him) and Panarin might decide he wants to join a team that is in contention now, but if he does decide to come to Chicago on a reasonable deal, that will really tell the story.
- breadbag

What's a reasonable deal for Panarin? $8 mil per or less? Getting $6 per now

Wooohooo Tyler that was the best clear and concise piece you wrote. Facts and reality well explained

I was encouraged early on that Stan was finally coming down to reality this time and some major shakeup moves where imminent.

Now I think we are once again seeing the real Stan that we all know. Little trades , not making the huge move .


I think this article I just read titled When are the Blackhawk going to start winning again.

That's what everyone is thirsting for a solid commitment and plan to get this ship back on track.

What's a reasonable deal for Panarin? $8 mil per or less? Getting $6 per now
- Assman22

If I was a GM, I wouldn't be wanting to go over 8 or 8.5 for him, but term is a factor. I think it will be interesting to see where his salary lands.

I think plenty of playoff teams would want Saad or Murphy to add depth. Murphy on the 3rd pair as he's played this year would boost plenty of teams. Saad on line 2/3, if playing to his potential, is a big boost. I'm just not sure why the Hawks trade these guys as they are young enough to be part of a the rebuild.....
- EnzoD

I like Murphy, bordering on a lot. At 25, signed thru 21/22 at 3.8 and one of the few who aren't "stick check" Dmen there is much to like.

Like everyone else I like him with Dahlstom and seemed they were a stabilizing pairing to a D that gives up the most high danger chances in the league, so I looked at the fancies. Actually they suck together other than they are plus in goals for/against, all other fancies together they blow! Notice both their fancies when away from each other, especially Murphy's which are excellent. https://www.naturalstattr...p2=8477472&p3=0&p4=0&p5=0

I agree that Delia needs the experience and the Hawks have to see what they have in him, but I think they must shelter him and not have him face 40 shots a game. Otherwise he may turn into a Forsberg due to the shell shock. There are 33 games left, so give him 18-20 starts.
- boilermaker100

I agree , but that starts with Stan getting serious and saying the party is over and moving out Keith and Seabrook. Everyone says we should keep them , my question to those people is this. Having those 2 players in the lineup and the team is still giving up 40 shots a night are we better off?

Their are better defensive defenseman out their , we just need a front office that realizes change is needed.

If I was a GM, I wouldn't be wanting to go over 8 or 8.5 for him, but term is a factor. I think it will be interesting to see where his salary lands.
- breadbag

Your in the right ball park with those numbers.

I like Murphy, bordering on a lot. At 25, signed thru 21/22 at 3.8 and one of the few who aren't "stick check" Dmen there is much to like.

Like everyone else I like him with Dahlstom and seemed they were a stabilizing pairing to a D that gives up the most high danger chances in the league, so I looked at the fancies. Actually they suck together other than they are plus in goals for/against, all other fancies together they blow! Notice both their fancies when away from each other, especially Murphy's which are excellent. https://www.naturalstattr...p2=8477472&p3=0&p4=0&p5=0
- Mr Ricochet

Murphy has improved tremendously since last season. Somehow, he looks MORE mobile after a serious back injury. It's ironic, bc you expect his mobility to decrease after an injury like that, but it shows how impressive Physical Therapy/Rehab is in 2018/19. I'm sure he was doing exercises he never has before the injury.