Still risky
Nylander was top10
So was Risto, who some hate & some love
- jdfitz77

Yea and Rantenen was a 10th overall pick.

Yea and Rantenen was a 10th overall pick.
- Pegullaville

Yeah but Colorado could’ve traded that pick for Brayden Schenn and they’d have been better in the short term....

Yeah but Colorado could’ve traded that pick for Brayden Schenn and they’d have been better in the short term....
- sbroads24

when is Schenn a free agent?

asking for a friend

Yea and Rantenen was a 10th overall pick.
- Pegullaville

I knew he was going to be a beast

when is Schenn a free agent?

asking for a friend
- homiedclown

2020 right?

I want no part of that if it involves 1st rounders

Couturier is different. He’s got two years after this and is elite defensively

Yeah but Colorado could’ve traded that pick for Brayden Schenn and they’d have been better in the short term....
- sbroads24

If only Vancouver traded Boeser for Schenn. They might have made the playoffs this year. And this Elias Pettersson guy would be in New York with the Rangers. First round picks are useless though and are unproven. Let’s trade them all

2020 right?

I want no part of that if it involves 1st rounders

Couturier is different. He’s got two years after this and is elite defensively
- sbroads24

agreed on both fronts

If only Vancouver traded Boeser for Schenn. They might have made the playoffs this year. And this Elias Pettersson guy would be in New York with the Rangers. First round picks are useless though and are unproven. Let’s trade them all
- Pegullaville

The Oilers moved that 16th pick for Griffin Reinhart, right?

Glad they couldn’t use Barzal right now

The Oilers moved that 16th pick for Griffin Reinhart, right?

Glad they couldn’t use Barzal right now
- sbroads24

The Caps were stupid to keep their late firsts and draft john Carlsson and Evgeny Kuznetsov. Three years of development for what ? They should have traded them instead try and win now.

The Caps were stupid to keep their late firsts and draft john Carlsson and Evgeny Kuznetsov. Three years of development for what ? They should have traded them instead try and win now.
- Pegullaville

This is quite the Ping Pong match. Half want to trade some of our 1st rounders and half don't. I say we keep and develop them while shredding the team of the likes of Okposo, Bogo, Bealieu and a few others. We are not in the "win now" mode. I don't want us to repeat GMTM's folly and rush something that is improving and developing. Let's play out this year and see where the chips fall. Of course, if we can get a stud like Courtier for a 1st+ then I would be all over it.

Over to the next guy to drill the ping pong ball back at my head.....

This is quite the Ping Pong match. Half want to trade some of our 1st rounders and half don't. I say we keep and develop them while shredding the team of the likes of Okposo, Bogo, Bealieu and a few others. We are not in the "win now" mode. I don't want us to repeat GMTM's folly and rush something that is improving and developing. Let's play out this year and see where the chips fall. Of course, if we can get a stud like Courtier for a 1st+ then I would be all over it.

Over to the next guy to drill the ping pong ball back at my head.....
- SabreWest

I wish that ROR was traded before the '18 draft, because he may be talking about that pick for 17 more months

The Oilers moved that 16th pick for Griffin Reinhart, right?

Glad they couldn’t use Barzal right now
- sbroads24

Funny thing is, the Oilers acquired that pick from Pittsburgh for David Perron then flipped it to the aislanders for Griffin reinhart.

So in essence Pittsburgh traded Barzal for Perron,

Then the Oilers traded Barzal for Griffin reinhart.

This is quite the Ping Pong match. Half want to trade some of our 1st rounders and half don't. I say we keep and develop them while shredding the team of the likes of Okposo, Bogo, Bealieu and a few others. We are not in the "win now" mode. I don't want us to repeat GMTM's folly and rush something that is improving and developing. Let's play out this year and see where the chips fall. Of course, if we can get a stud like Courtier for a 1st+ then I would be all over it.

Over to the next guy to drill the ping pong ball back at my head.....
- SabreWest

Those who want to trade 1st want a clear win. It rarely works that way when you're buying at the deadline. If Couturier is even available, the cost is going to hurt more than we'd like.

Those who want to trade 1st want a clear win. It rarely works that way when you're buying at the deadline. If Couturier is even available, the cost is going to hurt more than we'd like.
- Lunaion

I’d do 23 straight up

I’d do 23 straight up
- sbroads24

Sure, but they won't.

I’d do 23 straight up
- sbroads24

Reinhart, Guhle, a 1st for Ghost and Couturier

Sure, but they won't.
- Lunaion

My favorite part about this debate is the fact that these first rounders are supposedly overvalued and crapshoots but these teams should absolutely send good players our way for them?

Then the Oilers traded Barzal for Griffin reinhart.
- Pegullaville

and added a second rd pick

My favorite part about this debate is the fact that these first rounders are supposedly overvalued and crapshoots but these teams should absolutely send good players our way for them?
- sbroads24

It's absurd but it works the other way too

"We should trade a first"

"They're too valuable"

"What about for player x"

"They'd be crazy to accept a 1st"

The picks are good for us, but useless compared to other teams' assets

My favorite part about this debate is the fact that these first rounders are supposedly overvalued and crapshoots but these teams should absolutely send good players our way for them?
- sbroads24

we might get 2 first rounders for skinner

(hides)

we might get 2 first rounders for skinner

(hides)
- homiedclown

If they do that, they better immediately spend one first to dump Okposo

The Penguins would of had Crosby-Malkin-Barzal down the middle if they didn’t trade one late first. Could you imagine.

we might get 2 first rounders for skinner

(hides)
- homiedclown

Vegas 1st
B+ prospect for skinner

The Penguins would of had Crosby-Malkin-Barzal down the middle if they didn’t trade one late first. Could you imagine.
- Pegullaville

And they wouldn't have won two cups without trading a 1st for Kessel

we might get 2 first rounders for skinner

(hides)
- homiedclown

I wouldn't hate this

But then we have Jack Eichel and Rasmus Dahlin and that's about it.

So, what, draft 5+ players in the first round the next 2 drafts and expect it to just work?

Ok.