Eichel seems to have matured quite a bit

He’s nowhere near the punk Pat Kane was/is
And he’s won quite a bit

So as long as Jack has outgrown his 18/19 year old self- i think we are ok

Also...
Jack didn’t tell them to trade O’Reilly
That’s pretty ridiculous
- jdfitz77

You very well might be right. It appeared early on he bought into what housley was selling. My opinion seeing the sabres live against the sharks was they were solid. Made a few of us lesf fans a little nervous at work. Sabres i think just need to wait and draft and develop more. Can t believe that some on here dont know that. Need more time. God knows i know how hard that is. Its the kind of pain both our fan bases know all too well.

You very well might be right. It appeared early on he bought into what housley was selling. My opinion seeing the sabres live against the sharks was they were solid. Made a few of us lesf fans a little nervous at work. Sabres i think just need to wait and draft and develop more. Can t believe that some on here dont know that. Need more time. God knows i know how hard that is. Its the kind of pain both our fan bases know all too well.
- ziffles

There is a guy that comes in here and claims to know that he knows nothink.

You very well might be right. It appeared early on he bought into what housley was selling. My opinion seeing the sabres live against the sharks was they were solid. Made a few of us lesf fans a little nervous at work. Sabres i think just need to wait and draft and develop more. Can t believe that some on here dont know that. Need more time. God knows i know how hard that is. Its the kind of pain both our fan bases know all too well.
- ziffles

Of course drafting & developing is important
It’s the only way to sustain long term success

That doesn’t mean we can’t also make good trades to help our team NOW, and in the FUTURE

There’s also an inbetween

And i thought i saw u saying you’d bring in Coyle (27 to start next year), and Silfverberg (29 at the start of next year)
- jdfitz77

Not for 1st round picks dude.

O’Reilly wanted out.

He’s gone people
- sbroads24

He didn't necessarily want out, they should have told him it will be Jack's team and they didn't, there was even a " meeting" regarding the matter. ROR wasn't going to play 2nd man to Eichel so the best thing was to move him.

I don't want to keep bringing it up because he's gone but, we got NOTHING for a very good player in ROR. Sorry my opinion.

Not for 1st round picks dude.
- sbroads24

You’re still advocating “building our team” with guys in their late20s

Using a 1st would just get us a better player than a 3C like Coyle

I don't want to keep bringing it up because he's gone but, we got NOTHING for a very good player in ROR. Sorry my opinion.
- SABRES 89

Boom!

You’re still advocating “building our team” with guys in their late20s

Using a 1st would just get us a better player than a 3C like Coyle
- jdfitz77

Those are complimentary pieces, not core players.

I’m not moving a first round pick unless it’s for a 20-24 year old guy who’s going to be here 5-7 years minimum

Of course drafting & developing is important
It’s the only way to sustain long term success

That doesn’t mean we can’t also make good trades to help our team NOW, and in the FUTURE
- jdfitz77

Agreed but theres a time for everything. Trades involve adding by subtraction. The sabres just need to add right now. And they need to strike a little gold with later picks in the draft. Your number centre and future dman are just kids. Theres lots of time.

O’Reilly wanted out.

He’s gone people
- sbroads24

So is Mye...


Jk 😂

I don't want to keep bringing it up because he's gone but, we got NOTHING for a very good player in ROR. Sorry my opinion.
- SABRES 89

That remains to be seen.

The full time NHLers? Sure, I'll agree w that.

But the first? No one knows how that ends up (whether we make the pick or trade it)

Close enough that dumping someone like Beaulieu for a low round pick would cover it
Bad argument

But he’s not even arguing we shouldn’t have made the trade
He’s saying that Botts’ plan for a 2C this season failed
That’s very inarguable
- jdfitz77

Beaulieu was drafted 17th overall


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Those are complimentary pieces, not core players.

I’m not moving a first round pick unless it’s for a 20-24 year old guy who’s going to be here 5-7 years minimum
- sbroads24

What’s the percentage that a mid-late round 1st becomes a top6 forward?
50? Less?

I’ll be generous & call it 50%

A 50% chance for an extra few years of a good player IF they develop quickly
Or
A 100% chance of getting a player who can help us NOW...
and even though we might (yes, “might”) miss out on a few extra years if we trade for someone in the 26-28 range,
that doesn’t mean they can’t be effective for us into their 30s
Many guys are

While building a significant portion of our team like that would be a mistake,
we can certainly make it work by bringing in a guy or 2 that can help us for the next 5 or so years

You make it seem like it can only be one way or the other
We can trade for a Schenn, Couturier, etc with 1 of the 1sts & still Draft/Develop the others

What’s the percentage that a mid-late round 1st becomes a top6 forward?
50? Less?

I’ll be generous & call it 50%

A 50% chance for an extra few years of a good player IF they develop quickly
Or
A 100% chance of getting a player who can help us NOW...
and even though we might (yes, “might”) miss out on a few extra years if we trade for someone in the 26-28 range,
that doesn’t mean they can’t be effective for us into their 30s
Many guys are

While building a significant portion of our team like that would be a mistake,
we can certainly make it work by bringing in a guy or 2 that can help us for the next 5 or so years
- jdfitz77

I think we're ALL in agreement that trading a 1st is/could be a good idea.

The guy who brings up trading all of our firsts? Ludicrous.

There is a guy that comes in here and claims to know that he knows nothink.
- washedup20

I think we're ALL in agreement that trading a 1st is/could be a good idea.

The guy who brings up trading all of our firsts? Ludicrous.
- Powerslave

He was exaggerating his point
And he’s the only one who said anything that drastic

There are some on here that advocate not trading ANY of the 1sts

Beaulieu was drafted 17th overall


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- homiedclown

The list of 1st round picks who haven’t turned into “difference makers” is quite long

He was exaggerating his point
And he’s the only one who said anything that drastic

There are some on here that advocate not trading ANY of the 1sts
- jdfitz77

I think they almost HAVE TO trade a first at this point.

And I don't think Ripped Fuel exaggerates any points purposely.

The list of 1st round picks who haven’t turned into “difference makers” is quite long
- jdfitz77

it's a slippery slope

first move triggers everything else


I still want to focus on signing skinner, move some scrubs and call some kids up to finish the season

whatever happens, happens


then be in a strong position for the draft and july 1st

I think they almost HAVE TO trade a first at this point.

And I don't think Ripped Fuel exaggerates any points purposely.
- Powerslave

I like the thoughts of trading 2 first round picks for an impact kid in the top 10 at the draft

fits our timeline better and frees up some cap money in the short term

I think they almost HAVE TO trade a first at this point.

And I don't think Ripped Fuel exaggerates any points purposely.
- Powerslave

I think we might have to as well

Skinner type trades are few and far between
They usually work out more like Sheary has

Gotta give, to get

I like the thoughts of trading 2 first round picks for an impact kid in the top 10 at the draft

fits our timeline better and frees up some cap money in the short term
- homiedclown

Still risky
Nylander was top10
So was Risto, who some hate & some love

it's a slippery slope

first move triggers everything else


I still want to focus on signing skinner, move some scrubs and call some kids up to finish the season

whatever happens, happens


then be in a strong position for the draft and july 1st
- homiedclown

Trading for a 2C probably won’t be easy,
so I’m not counting on it

Like u say, continue dumping the garbage

If we can trade for a “core” piece,
then we should

But we’d still have work to do

I really want Stone as a UFA
He’s a perfect fit imo

Trading for a 2C probably won’t be easy,
so I’m not counting on it

Like u say, continue dumping the garbage

If we can trade for a “core” piece,
then we should

But we’d still have work to do

I really want Stone as a UFA
He’s a perfect fit imo
- jdfitz77

I don’t get why we are trading for a 2C. We have one. He is just a rookie and needs time.

The dumbest idea ever is to trade a lot for a guy who’s going to be an overpaid 3C soon