Justin i did not propose any trades even though that is what i like to do are these trades you have proposed have any validity to them in the sense of what the hawks are looking to do or is it you playing arm chair gm like the rest of us. I did like Anaheim and Tampa trades the rest not so much. Saad pesche instead of Hamilton plus in your direction for the hawks is all over bthe place are the rebuild mode or going for it. Phily trade if a 1st and morin is added then yes but if you be going after simmonds rather the hawks try and get josh Anderson from Columbus. All in all not bad ideas for trades.

* CHICAGO BLACKHAWKS acquire: Josh Manson and Jack Kopacka from ANAHEIM DUCKS for Erik Gustafsson, Dylan Sikura, Lucas Carlsson and a 2nd round pick

If this happens, I'm heading out to the UC to get one of those fancy Winter Classic jerseys to get Manson's name on the back. Charlie was one of my all time favorites although Smitty is close to it so the trade wasn't too bad.

We need a big strong somewhat skilled Dman with snarl.

30-31 point pace, less than 20 minutes a night, and minimal PP contribution is not exactly a recipe for a top pairing offensive-minded d-man which is what the Canes were acquiring him to be (with an apparent attitude problem too).

Granted that he’s no longer playing with Giordano (not a knock on Slavin), more has been expected of him, which has essentially been a narrative that has followed him everywhere he has gone.
- TommyHawk

He hasn't been playing with Slavin.

He's been dragging TVR's busted ass all over the ice.

And it's not his fault that this organization has an obsession with playing Justin Faulk on the top PP unit.

And what attitude problem? The organization has been raving about how good Dougie has been with everything. The dude's been great. The only difference between right now and the last couple years is that this year he hasn't been playing with forwards who can actually score.

(Oh, but with an increase in ice time over his last 12 games, he has 9 points and is a +8 so, I dunno, maybe there's been more of an issue with coaching and what's gone on around Hamilton more than what Dougie himself has been bringing to the table)

LMAO what are you talking about?

Dude is controlling 60% of shots and scoring chances at 5v5 and is struggling points wise due to a PDO of 96...
- Feds91Stammer

His WOWY numbers look great. He elevates every D partner he plays with... But his numbers tank when he's with TVR... almost like it's a lot harder to be effective when your D partner is a bottom pairing guy trying to play his offside or something.

His WOWY numbers look great. He elevates every D partner he plays with... But his numbers tank when he's with TVR... almost like it's a lot harder to be effective when your D partner is a bottom pairing guy trying to play his offside or something.
- BINGO!

Gotta trade Hamilton bro. Its the only way.

I know what I think about players and these proposals are bad.
- Feds91Stammer

I agree. It looks like these proposals were pulled from CapFriendly

I agree. It looks like these proposals were pulled from CapFriendly
- WSCTeton17

Haha those are the best.

Gotta trade Hamilton bro. Its the only way.
- Feds91Stammer

I mean, I see no other options.

These proposals would never be accepted by the opposing teams.

Why waste your time coming up with proposals that don't factor in what the other team is looking for or needs, and what their cap space allows?

You are essentially shaving half of your face, which is kind of lazy.

* CHICAGO BLACKHAWKS acquire: Josh Manson and Jack Kopacka from ANAHEIM DUCKS for Erik Gustafsson, Dylan Sikura, Lucas Carlsson and a 2nd round pick

If this happens, I'm heading out to the UC to get one of those fancy Winter Classic jerseys to get Manson's name on the back. Charlie was one of my all time favorites although Smitty is close to it so the trade wasn't too bad.

We need a big strong somewhat skilled Dman with snarl.
- Popsghostly

Chicago should target Nikita Zadorov he is available. That kid is tough would be solid on the backend

* CHICAGO BLACKHAWKS acquire: Josh Manson and Jack Kopacka from ANAHEIM DUCKS for Erik Gustafsson, Dylan Sikura, Lucas Carlsson and a 2nd round pick

If this happens, I'm heading out to the UC to get one of those fancy Winter Classic jerseys to get Manson's name on the back. Charlie was one of my all time favorites although Smitty is close to it so the trade wasn't too bad.

We need a big strong somewhat skilled Dman with snarl.
- Popsghostly

Ditto all around. I'd definitely be getting a Manson WC jersey and he's definitely the type of D-Man this team could use. I hope that Stan is identifying this and goes out to get someone of substance to fill the void of a Defensive D-Man who's not afraid to mix it up instead of going out and getting another Offensive D-Man like Hamilton when pretty much all of our current top prospects fit the same profile as that

These proposals would never be accepted by the opposing teams.

Why waste your time coming up with proposals that don't factor in what the other team is looking for or needs, and what their cap space allows?

You are essentially shaving half of your face, which is kind of lazy.
- Jack Straw

Philly would.

These proposals would never be accepted by the opposing teams.

Why waste your time coming up with proposals that don't factor in what the other team is looking for or needs, and what their cap space allows?

You are essentially shaving half of your face, which is kind of lazy.
- Jack Straw

I think there's a bigger picture with the one's he's suggested

30-31 point pace, less than 20 minutes a night, and minimal PP contribution is not exactly a recipe for a top pairing offensive-minded d-man which is what the Canes were acquiring him to be (with an apparent attitude problem too).

Granted that he’s no longer playing with Giordano (not a knock on Slavin), more has been expected of him, which has essentially been a narrative that has followed him everywhere he has gone.
- TommyHawk

To me, and I guess some others, Hamilton is a kind of an enigma. Very talented player, 9th overall pk, great size, 72 pt season in 50 games in the OHL, 2 WJC for CAN, fantastic fancies, 25 yrs old with 475 NHL games, barely missed a game in 5 yrs, great cap friendly contract at 5.75 for 2 more yrs. Kinda Dman you keep for 15 yrs yet he's been with 3 teams and with his current one he's 4th in Dman TOI slightly less than Brett Pesce. Has never put up more than 50 points and his career average is .50 pts per game, a 40 point pace season.

Many expected Klingenberg numbers, 60+ point seasons and IMO the talent to do so. Add his very very good fancies and the kid has everything needed to be a real difference maker but has yet to do so. An enigma of sorts.

That said you'd still get 25 GM's to take that enigma off of CAR's hands. At 25 yrs old safe to assume he's yet to reach his ceiling although he has 475 NHL games played. Compensation is the key........ Do you pay for a guy that has everything needed to be a 60+ point guy with top level fancies or a guy who has averaged 40 pts a season?

He hasn't been playing with Slavin.

He's been dragging TVR's busted ass all over the ice.

And it's not his fault that this organization has an obsession with playing Justin Faulk on the top PP unit.

And what attitude problem? The organization has been raving about how good Dougie has been with everything. The dude's been great. The only difference between right now and the last couple years is that this year he hasn't been playing with forwards who can actually score.

(Oh, but with an increase in ice time over his last 12 games, he has 9 points and is a +8 so, I dunno, maybe there's been more of an issue with coaching and what's gone on around Hamilton more than what Dougie himself has been bringing to the table)
- BINGO!

Don't look at a snapshot of Hamilton, look at his whole career. His career high in pts is 50 and has averaged .50 pts per game over his 475 NHL games.

To me, and I guess some others, Hamilton is a kind of an enigma. Very talented player, 9th overall pk, great size, 72 pt season in 50 games in the OHL, 2 WJC for CAN, fantastic fancies, 25 yrs old with 475 NHL games, barely missed a game in 5 yrs, great cap friendly contract at 5.75 for 2 more yrs. Kinda Dman you keep for 15 yrs yet he's been with 3 teams and with his current one he's 4th in Dman TOI slightly less than Brett Pesce. Has never put up more than 50 points and his career average is .50 pts per game, a 40 point pace season.

Many expected Klingenberg numbers, 60+ point seasons and IMO the talent to do so. Add his very very good fancies and the kid has everything needed to be a real difference maker but has yet to do so. An enigma of sorts.

That said you'd still get 25 GM's to take that enigma off of CAR's hands. At 25 yrs old safe to assume he's yet to reach his ceiling although he has 475 NHL games played. Compensation is the key........ Do you pay for a guy that has everything needed to be a 60+ point guy with top level fancies or a guy who has averaged 40 pts a season?
- Mr Ricochet

Thing is he's always been behind somebody for one reason or another. Coaches have never trusted him to be THE GUY at the NHL level. The first one that does is going to have one (frank) of a player on their hands because the guy destroys.

Don't look at a snapshot of Hamilton, look at his whole career. His career high in pts is 50 and has averaged .50 pts per game over his 475 NHL games.
- Mr Ricochet

I think it's safe to say, like most teams fans, he's being overvalued by those who are a fan of the Canes. Not saying he isn't a legit Top 4 Offensive D-Man that could put up 40-50 points year in and year out or have a breakout 60+ point year, but I think there's some debate as to how good he really is. Like I said, I think he's Top 4 but not elite. All that really matters is what the Canes think of him, and what they would be willing to accept to move him out. Beauty is all in the eye of the beholder and that which they covet.

These proposals would never be accepted by the opposing teams.

Why waste your time coming up with proposals that don't factor in what the other team is looking for or needs, and what their cap space allows?

You are essentially shaving half of your face, which is kind of lazy.
- Jack Straw

Dude did you read the blog title?
It's Fun with Trade Proposals!
It's just to have fun discussing trades. Not that anything like those proposals would happen but who the Hell knows. Not reading the blog or title is lazy on your part.

* CHICAGO BLACKHAWKS acquire: Josh Manson and Jack Kopacka from ANAHEIM DUCKS for Erik Gustafsson, Dylan Sikura, Lucas Carlsson and a 2nd round pick

If this happens, I'm heading out to the UC to get one of those fancy Winter Classic jerseys to get Manson's name on the back. Charlie was one of my all time favorites although Smitty is close to it so the trade wasn't too bad.

We need a big strong somewhat skilled Dman with snarl.
- Popsghostly

Not too many Hawk fans that don't clamor for a physical player, no matter the position. But the Hawks don't look for that in their Dmen. They worship at the speed/skill alter, period, especially at defense. ............. For them to target a Manson, Hagg, Gudas, Zadorov they would have to philophically change.

But yea man, put me on the list for a Manson type player. A guy who flies under the radar in that mold is TB's 22 yr old Dman Erik Cernak. Kid is physical, has size and has offensive skills.: https://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/players/6785/

These proposals would never be accepted by the opposing teams.

Why waste your time coming up with proposals that don't factor in what the other team is looking for or needs, and what their cap space allows?

You are essentially shaving half of your face, which is kind of lazy.
- Jack Straw

Read the ole blog title there buddy. It wasn't title most realistic trades or most likely to happen trades.....

Thing is he's always been behind somebody for one reason or another. Coaches have never trusted him to be THE GUY at the NHL level. The first one that does is going to have one (frank) of a player on their hands because the guy destroys.
- BINGO!

If Hamilton never improves he'll have had a very good NHL career but he has everything needed to have had a great NHL career. An enigma not in the way why can't this player do well with all his tools but why isn't he great.......... Hopefully the right coach is all that is needed. Hawk fans see that in Gus. Totally different player under Colliton. Same for Daley and Kempney.

Philly would.
- jmatchett383

Very good article in The Athletic about the Dman logjam in the Philly pipeline. Hagg is the guy I want as a Hawks fan.

Chicago should target Nikita Zadorov he is available. That kid is tough would be solid on the backend
- Taylorst1

Gust and 4th for Zadorov thoughts not enough too much or make that trade?

Murphy sikrua to Detroit for Andreas Athanasiou and 3rd then sign him 4 to 5 years at 4.5 5 million per year. I believe he can play all forward positions.

Very good article in The Athletic about the Dman logjam in the Philly pipeline. Hagg is the guy I want as a Hawks fan.
- Mr Ricochet

Or Morin

Not too many Hawk fans that don't clamor for a physical player, no matter the position. But the Hawks don't look for that in their Dmen. They worship at the speed/skill alter, period, especially at defense. ............. For them to target a Manson, Hagg, Gudas, Zadorov they would have to philophically change.

But yea man, put me on the list for a Manson type player. A guy who flies under the radar in that mold is TB's 22 yr old Dman Erik Cernak. Kid is physical, has size and has offensive skills.: https://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/players/6785/
- Mr Ricochet

I think people mostly just want someone of that mold for the team. A true shutdown D-Man who isn't afraid to get physical. Finding someone who fits that bill AND can play our system is key.