Which team is taking Zaitsev at 4.5M. He is terrible. Johnsson make league minimum. Next?
- scott.jackson

I said ditch, not wheel and deal. Everyone knows Zaitsev isn’t worth 4.5M but if you think the Leafs can’t package him up then you’re an absolute fool, Scottie.

Andreas Johnsson is absolutely NOT signing for the league minimum. If you don’t understand a certain players abilities then why would you even comment? Johnsson has 21 points in 40 games, that’s barely below the production level of Brandon Saad. The kid put up a point per game in the AHL last year and followed it up with 24 pros in 16 playoff games and now he’s putting up numbers just below Saad and you think he’s worth league minimum? This kid is just warming up. Take a seat and enjoy the show

FFS. We're fans of an O6 franchise. We all know an offer sheet has to be signed. Come on.
- Elbows15

Right?

I can see this happening.

All of Leafs nation will be puddles if it does.
- Justin Lowe

This a hypothetical but what if hawks do an offer sheet to matthews lanie etc.. All those players are in the early 20s so 4 1st round picks and probably recoup some in trading keith crow if healthy matthews behind towes or as number 1 or lanie on lw with kane could possibly win another cup. Its pipe dream but who knows.
Justin I suggested a trade early murphy sikrua for Andres antheiuos and a 3rd.

Gust hayden and 4th to tampa for Callahan raddish and a 1st

Bickell cost TT. That is with TT playing more than a season in the NHL and having a modest level of success. Raddysh is still a prospect, Callahan is going to cost them. He is basically a 5.8M 4C at this point.

It wouldn't even be about the Otter line for me.
- Elbows15

It would be a great move for the Hawks if TB would do it. Callahan's $5.8M won't hurt the Hawks because the Hawks aren't going to be contenders next season anyway and that $5.8M will be available to re-up DCat after next season.

I believe to write an offer sheet, the required compensatory draft picks must all be your own picks, not picks received from other teams in trades. I wonder how many of the teams that would be financially (capwise) able to sign Matthews to a mega offersheet have their next four 1st round picks intact?

And then of course that offer sheet would in fact have to be signed by the player involved.

Otherwise: Null. Void.

I believe to write an offer sheet, the required compensatory draft picks must all be your own picks, not picks received from other teams in trades. I wonder how many of the teams that would be financially (capwise) able to sign Matthews to a mega offersheet have their next four 1st round picks intact?
- Ogilthorpe2

It does have to be their own picks. Can't be picks acquire via trade.

This a hypothetical but what if hawks do an offer sheet to matthews lanie etc.. All those players are in the early 20s so 4 1st round picks and probably recoup some in trading keith crow if healthy matthews behind towes or as number 1 or lanie on lw with kane could possibly win another cup. Its pipe dream but who knows.
Justin I suggested a trade early murphy sikrua for Andres antheiuos and a 3rd.

Gust hayden and 4th to tampa for Callahan raddish and a 1st
- Scott1977

Wouldn't offer sheet a winger if it were me.

I said ditch, not wheel and deal. Everyone knows Zaitsev isn’t worth 4.5M but if you think the Leafs can’t package him up then you’re an absolute fool, Scottie.

Andreas Johnsson is absolutely NOT signing for the league minimum. If you don’t understand a certain players abilities then why would you even comment? Johnsson has 21 points in 40 games, that’s barely below the production level of Brandon Saad. The kid put up a point per game in the AHL last year and followed it up with 24 pros in 16 playoff games and now he’s putting up numbers just below Saad and you think he’s worth league minimum? This kid is just warming up. Take a seat and enjoy the show
- WSCTeton17

That package is gonna have to be a doozy. Zaitsev is signed for anther 5 seasons. So its gonna cost more than Brown or Lindholm is it were me. And no, Bracco and Hymen doesn't do it, either

I believe to write an offer sheet, the required compensatory draft picks must all be your own picks, not picks received from other teams in trades. I wonder how many of the teams that would be financially (capwise) able to sign Matthews to a mega offersheet have their next four 1st round picks intact?
- Ogilthorpe2

The capfriendly site lists each team's available draft picks for the next 3 years. All teams except Ottawa, St. Louis and San Jose have their own first round choices and it's a good bet that all teams still have their own first rounder 4 years out. This is bound to change at the TDL.

The NYI for next year will have 13 players signed with 35.5M (assuming 3 Mil cap increase) cap space available. 13M for Mathews leaves them 22.5 to sign 8-9 players. They could even resign Eberle for say 8M leaving them 14.5M for 7-8 players.

The value won't be as fair you think. The cap has gone up. That much is true. So have salaries. Better perspective is to view cap hits as a percentage of the cap. That has stayed fairly consistent.

The value won't be a reflection of the talents of the players involved. TB is at ~73M for 16 players next season. With only 4 D-men under contract. Sure they can move some guys but its going to hurt their depth and I am going to guess the returns on players moved is gonna be pretty meh.
- Elbows15

If you think that teams won’t be lining up to take a crack at Tyler Johnson and his .67PPG over his career (.72PPG this season). Then you are absolutely insane. Talking about caps going up and then saying that good players with below market cap hits aren’t going to be worth it is insane. Short list of teams who will line up for TJ: Anaheim, Arizona, Boston, Buffalo, Calgary, Carolina, Colorado, Columbus, DALLAS, I mean really MOST of the teams in this league would love to have TJ at a $5MM cap hit. This is absolutely laughable. Players who have as many or less points than TJ this season: Getzlaf, Benn, Kopitar, Hayes (who’s about to get paid more than $5MM for sure), Tarasenko, Karlsson, Kadri, Kapanen I mean really the list is obviously very long and talented. Killorn is on pace for another 40+ point season, Palat is once again on pace for another 50+ point season. I said it earlier, the only guy Tampa would have to dump would be a guy like Callahan which Montreal already said they’re willing to take buyout contracts as long as players/picks come back.

Now let’s take a look at the list of players who MIGHT hit free agency that produce at similar levels: Pirri, Pavelski, Eric Staal, Zuccarello, Chiasson, Jumbo Joe, Justin Williams, and Vanek. Pirri likely re-signs with the team that gave him his shot where he’s succeeding and playing at a high level. Pavelski gets signed for sure, Eric Staal likely gets over $5MM on his next deal which probably takes him well out of his prime into his mid to late 30’s. Zuccarello will absolutely be highly sought after. This is the first year Chiasson has produced at this level and we all know about unsustainable sh%’s. Jumbo Joe is likely back in SJ or retires. Williams could be in the same boat as Joe. And then you have the journeyman Vanek. As you can see the list is both aged and short for free agent comparables.

Teams will absolutely pony up for Tampa’s players.

Let’s take a look at some of the players Chicago let go during their cup years. Niemi had a .912 sv%. What a surprise that they let him go. Ladd put up somewhat similar points to Killorn but wait, wasn’t Ladd also getting time in the top 6 which Killorn does not? The production there doesn’t quite add up. Big Buff hadn’t hit 40 points in the regular season yet, but he did come up big in the playoffs. He wasn’t exactly producing like a top 6 forward back in those days. Versteeg was big in 2010 but you got Stalberg in return who was cost controlled and played well as a Hawk. You got the 26th overall pick just for the rights to Troy Brouwer who produced less than all of these Tampa players. You got a 2nd rounder and a former 1st rounder for Ladd. You sent Sopel, Eager, and Buff to Atlanta for a former 2nd rounder in Morin, Crabb, and then you got a first and second round pick. I don’t think these are bad returns at all for players who were worse then than what Tampa can offer now (excluding Callahan who limit the return). The worst part of these trades are definitely how the draft picks were used and the prospects who came over. Who’s fault is that? Staaaaan Bowman. Most of his deals through his tenure have been bad. So putting all of the facts aside, I wouldn’t hold Stan’s prior moves against any other existing GM (except Chia who was a terrible GM)

Feel free to add if I’ve missed anything

I said ditch, not wheel and deal. Everyone knows Zaitsev isn’t worth 4.5M but if you think the Leafs can’t package him up then you’re an absolute fool, Scottie.

Andreas Johnsson is absolutely NOT signing for the league minimum. If you don’t understand a certain players abilities then why would you even comment? Johnsson has 21 points in 40 games, that’s barely below the production level of Brandon Saad. The kid put up a point per game in the AHL last year and followed it up with 24 pros in 16 playoff games and now he’s putting up numbers just below Saad and you think he’s worth league minimum? This kid is just warming up. Take a seat and enjoy the show
- WSCTeton17

It would be a great move for the Hawks if TB would do it. Callahan's $5.8M won't hurt the Hawks because the Hawks aren't going to be contenders next season anyway and that $5.8M will be available to re-up DCat after next season.
- EbonyRaptor

I think there are more teams right now who are willing to take Callahan, that’s a big factor in the price they pay. I could be wrong, but I would think Carolina, Detroit, Montreal, New Jersey, possibly the Islanders, the Rangers, probably not the Sens because of their cash constraints- would all be willing to take Callahan as long as the deal was sweetened. TT had only produced at a .39PPG pace to that point in his career and .44PPG in the playoffs. There was just a ton of upside since he was only like 21 turning 22 when he was traded. It also doesn’t have to be existing players that they give up with Callahan, instead maybe it’s a combination of picks? We’ll see

I believe to write an offer sheet, the required compensatory draft picks must all be your own picks, not picks received from other teams in trades. I wonder how many of the teams that would be financially (capwise) able to sign Matthews to a mega offersheet have their next four 1st round picks intact?
- Ogilthorpe2

That is correct. In all offer sheets, all of the picks must be your own picks

I said ditch, not wheel and deal. Everyone knows Zaitsev isn’t worth 4.5M but if you think the Leafs can’t package him up then you’re an absolute fool, Scottie.

Andreas Johnsson is absolutely NOT signing for the league minimum. If you don’t understand a certain players abilities then why would you even comment? Johnsson has 21 points in 40 games, that’s barely below the production level of Brandon Saad. The kid put up a point per game in the AHL last year and followed it up with 24 pros in 16 playoff games and now he’s putting up numbers just below Saad and you think he’s worth league minimum? This kid is just warming up. Take a seat and enjoy the show
- WSCTeton17

I didnt say he is signing for league minimum. I said he is making league minimum. He will get a decent pay raise.

If you think the Leafs are going to keep a stacked team together for years you have another thing coming.

My point here is they are going to have to get rid of good talent to keep the core together. Sorry bud, but Zaitsev isn't the guy going. Lol

This a hypothetical but what if hawks do an offer sheet to matthews lanie etc.. All those players are in the early 20s so 4 1st round picks and probably recoup some in trading keith crow if healthy matthews behind towes or as number 1 or lanie on lw with kane could possibly win another cup. Its pipe dream but who knows.
Justin I suggested a trade early murphy sikrua for Andres antheiuos and a 3rd.

Gust hayden and 4th to tampa for Callahan raddish and a 1st
- Scott1977

HAWKS should offer sheet Lanie , revenge for them taking the Golden Jet !!!

With regards to TB trades. I would be all in on LHD Sergachev to pair with Joki as top pair Dline. He's behind Hedman & McDonagh on depth chart, and both getting paid.

Maybe Murphy, Gustafson, 2nd or 1st round of 2020 pick for Callahan, LHD Sergachev, RHD Cernak, LW Katchouk, RW Raddysh. I would be willing to throw in Forsling or mid-level prospect if they wanted to include Coburn to clear more salary cap.

HAWKS should offer sheet Lanie , revenge for them taking the Golden Jet !!!
- oldduffman

Welcome back! Where you been?

IMO in the next cba talks should be talks of more emphasis on keeping your players that have been drafted and develop and if you drafted by a team you have to play for that team refering to the college and CHL players. Some lee way in the cap rules still have a hard cap but maybe a luxery tax type rule with a predetermined limit.

That package is gonna have to be a doozy. Zaitsev is signed for anther 5 seasons. So its gonna cost more than Brown or Lindholm is it were me. And no, Bracco and Hymen doesn't do it, either
- Elbows15

To me NJ is a natural trade partner for both Tampa and Toronto. Let’s not forget that TO can trade Marleau as well, but idk how well that’ll go over. But Zaitsev, Hyman and maybe a 2nd for maybe Pavel Zacha makes a lot of sense. There’s a chance Zaitsev turns it around, but really they need D in Jersey anyways. Getting rid of those two contracts plus letting Gardiner walk opens up a lot of space for Toronto

If you think that teams won’t be lining up to take a crack at Tyler Johnson and his .67PPG over his career (.72PPG this season). Then you are absolutely insane. Talking about caps going up and then saying that good players with below market cap hits aren’t going to be worth it is insane. Short list of teams who will line up for TJ: Anaheim, Arizona, Boston, Buffalo, Calgary, Carolina, Colorado, Columbus, DALLAS, I mean really MOST of the teams in this league would love to have TJ at a $5MM cap hit. This is absolutely laughable. Players who have as many or less points than TJ this season: Getzlaf, Benn, Kopitar, Hayes (who’s about to get paid more than $5MM for sure), Tarasenko, Karlsson, Kadri, Kapanen I mean really the list is obviously very long and talented. Killorn is on pace for another 40+ point season, Palat is once again on pace for another 50+ point season. I said it earlier, the only guy Tampa would have to dump would be a guy like Callahan which Montreal already said they’re willing to take buyout contracts as long as players/picks come back.

Now let’s take a look at the list of players who MIGHT hit free agency that produce at similar levels: Pirri, Pavelski, Eric Staal, Zuccarello, Chiasson, Jumbo Joe, Justin Williams, and Vanek. Pirri likely re-signs with the team that gave him his shot where he’s succeeding and playing at a high level. Pavelski gets signed for sure, Eric Staal likely gets over $5MM on his next deal which probably takes him well out of his prime into his mid to late 30’s. Zuccarello will absolutely be highly sought after. This is the first year Chiasson has produced at this level and we all know about unsustainable sh%’s. Jumbo Joe is likely back in SJ or retires. Williams could be in the same boat as Joe. And then you have the journeyman Vanek. As you can see the list is both aged and short for free agent comparables.

Teams will absolutely pony up for Tampa’s players.

Let’s take a look at some of the players Chicago let go during their cup years. Niemi had a .912 sv%. What a surprise that they let him go. Ladd put up somewhat similar points to Killorn but wait, wasn’t Ladd also getting time in the top 6 which Killorn does not? The production there doesn’t quite add up. Big Buff hadn’t hit 40 points in the regular season yet, but he did come up big in the playoffs. He wasn’t exactly producing like a top 6 forward back in those days. Versteeg was big in 2010 but you got Stalberg in return who was cost controlled and played well as a Hawk. You got the 26th overall pick just for the rights to Troy Brouwer who produced less than all of these Tampa players. You got a 2nd rounder and a former 1st rounder for Ladd. You sent Sopel, Eager, and Buff to Atlanta for a former 2nd rounder in Morin, Crabb, and then you got a first and second round pick. I don’t think these are bad returns at all for players who were worse then than what Tampa can offer now (excluding Callahan who limit the return). The worst part of these trades are definitely how the draft picks were used and the prospects who came over. Who’s fault is that? Staaaaan Bowman. Most of his deals through his tenure have been bad. So putting all of the facts aside, I wouldn’t hold Stan’s prior moves against any other existing GM (except Chia who was a terrible GM)

Feel free to add if I’ve missed anything
- WSCTeton17

Tyler Johnson having a NTC may through a wrench into how easy it will be to move him.

Edit - Same for Killorn. He has a NTC too. Just noticed on cap friendly that Calahan has a modified NTC, NMC.

The capfriendly site lists each team's available draft picks for the next 3 years. All teams except Ottawa, St. Louis and San Jose have their own first round choices and it's a good bet that all teams still have their own first rounder 4 years out. This is bound to change at the TDL.

The NYI for next year will have 13 players signed with 35.5M (assuming 3 Mil cap increase) cap space available. 13M for Mathews leaves them 22.5 to sign 8-9 players. They could even resign Eberle for say 8M leaving them 14.5M for 7-8 players.
- boilermaker100

That’s the beauty of the position the Islanders are in right now. First, not a chance Eberle gets $8MM and he honestly might not even be kept. Anders Lee is going to get a fat raise, so will Beauvillier (relative to his current salary) but aside from that expect to see the Isles really delve into free agency this year. Karlsson and Panarin make a ton of sense for them. Brock Nelson might play himself into the $6MM AAV conversation. They’re also potentially in on guys like Duchene, Stone, Skinner but Lou is savvy, I think he’ll keep his picks and wait until free agency. I don’t think he makes a big splash this offseason unless an extension is negotiated beforehand

To me NJ is a natural trade partner for both Tampa and Toronto. Let’s not forget that TO can trade Marleau as well, but idk how well that’ll go over. But Zaitsev, Hyman and maybe a 2nd for maybe Pavel Zacha makes a lot of sense. There’s a chance Zaitsev turns it around, but really they need D in Jersey anyways. Getting rid of those two contracts plus letting Gardiner walk opens up a lot of space for Toronto
- WSCTeton17

You aren't getting Zacha for that garbage.

That’s the beauty of the position the Islanders are in right now. First, not a chance Eberle gets $8MM and he honestly might not even be kept. Anders Lee is going to get a fat raise, so will Beauvillier (relative to his current salary) but aside from that expect to see the Isles really delve into free agency this year. Karlsson and Panarin make a ton of sense for them. Brock Nelson might play himself into the $6MM AAV conversation. They’re also potentially in on guys like Duchene, Stone, Skinner but Lou is savvy, I think he’ll keep his picks and wait until free agency. I don’t think he makes a big splash this offseason unless an extension is negotiated beforehand
- WSCTeton17

I agree the Islanders are in a great cap position. I just threw Eberle out there as one of their UFA's they might sign. Nelson and Lee could be signed instead.

I can't take anyone seriously who mentions Pirri as a sought after FA.