Lehtera and Weise could play for them while prospects with upside get to develop at the next level. It's actually quite common for washed up NHL vets to get sent down to the AHL.

https://www.capfriendly.com/players/sam-gagner
https://www.capfriendly.com/players/matt-moulson
- Feanor

AHL Vet rules... only so many allowed per game.

Of the 18 skaters (not counting two goaltenders) that teams may dress for a game, at least 13 must be qualified as “development players.” Of those 13, 12 must have played in 260 or fewer professional games (including AHL, NHL and European elite leagues), and one must have played in 320 or fewer professional games. All calculations for development status are based on regular-season totals as of the start of the season.

So Weise and Lehtera would take 2 of the 5 Vet Spots.

Now fill in the rest of the roster and you still have no one to call up so the Flyers would be playing with 11 forwards.

Just sayin.


- jmatchett383

Not at that cap hit and especially term...

Myers is 28 right handed and has great size. Hes about as consistent of a top 4 as you could want. Been in the nhl since he was 19. We can afford to pay some veterans everyone just wants it to be duchene or panarin. A defenseman might actually do us better and be cheaper.
- Tfaehner

I dont think it has to be either or. We should have plenty of money to spend. I'm just assuming that Provorov and Konecny are getting close to 6 million, and Sanheim gets about 3 million.

Giroux 8.275-Couturier 4.333-Konecny 6
JVR 7-Duchene 9-Voracek 8.25
Lindblom .925-Patrick .925-Frost .894
Rubstov .894-Laughton 1.5-NAK .680
Voroboyov .784

Provorov 6-Myers 7.5
Sanheim 3-Ghost 4.5
Morin .7-Myers .678
Hagg 1.15

Hart .730
Elliot or someone like Elliot 2.5

Traded: Gudas

Possibly traded MacDonald, Weise but retaining 50% salary. Close to 4 Million.

That would put us around 79.434 Million. The current cap is 79.5. Its projected to go up to 83 million in 2020 still giving us some cap space and then another large increase because of Seattle revenues.

Bill Meltzer: Musings & Quick Hits: Couturier, Simmonds, 'Lose for Hughes,' Phantoms
- bmeltzer

What I love about Simmonds, whether he’s on the ice or on the bench as a bystander. If he isn’t fighting he’s always yelling at the fight. I love that.

Absolutely chirping at the guy who is fighting his teammate.

I’ve never seen a beloved player like Simmonds get turned on so easily simply because he’s at the end of his team. I could go either way, trade or sign him. I lean towards signing him because of how he carries himself. His intangibles. Anything above 6.5 million is insane to me but if he wants to stay at a reasonable cost, why wouldn’t we keep him.

How was anyone expecting him to sharp after a summer of Rehab and two games of camp?

Strangest thing is hearing chia being fired so close to the deadline. Wonder if he brought them trade proposals to put through and they saw Seguin trades happening all over again.
- Tfaehner

Its not strange at all. We figured it would happen. TDL was going to be the day he made the team even worse. Many Sports writers were saying EDM had to do it before the TDL

You want to defend every decision made by the Flyers brass, but since even you can't come up with any way to defend exiling Weise and forcing Lehtera into the lineup, all you have left is a straw man.
- Feanor

Who should they be playing in place of Yayo?

I dont think it has to be either or. We should have plenty of money to spend. I'm just assuming that Provorov and Konecny are getting close to 6 million, and Sanheim gets about 3 million.

Giroux 8.275-Couturier 4.333-Konecny 6
JVR 7-Duchene 9-Voracek 8.25
Lindblom .925-Patrick .925-Frost .894
Rubstov .894-Laughton 1.5-NAK .680
Voroboyov .784

Provorov 6-Myers 7.5
Sanheim 3-Ghost 4.5
Morin .7-Myers .678
Hagg 1.15

Hart .730
Elliot or someone like Elliot 2.5

Traded: Gudas

Possibly traded MacDonald, Weise but retaining 50% salary. Close to 4 Million.

That would put us around 79.434 Million. The current cap is 79.5. Its projected to go up to 83 million in 2020 still giving us some cap space and then another large increase because of Seattle revenues.
- youarewrong

Not sure I'm a fan of Myers at $7.5M and Duchesne at $9M. I definitely don't want Duchesne being our highest paid player. If you could do $6.5M and $7M, I'd be more on board.

One Ronald Jeffrey Hextall rumored to be on the list to replace Peter Chiarelli:

https://twitter.com/JSpor...tatus/1088069455773683713
- johndewar

Lol he's pretty much the exact opposite approach they're looking for.

Not sure I'm a fan of Myers at $7.5M and Duchesne at $9M. I definitely don't want Duchesne being our highest paid player. If you could do $6.5M and $7M, I'd be more on board.
- jmatchett383

No s.

One Ronald Jeffrey Hextall rumored to be on the list to replace Peter Chiarelli:

https://twitter.com/JSpor...tatus/1088069455773683713
- johndewar

so by the time Hextall fixes that mess....Mcdavid will be talking about retirement...

AHL Vet rules... only so many allowed per game.


So Weise and Lehtera would take 2 of the 5 Vet Spots.

Now fill in the rest of the roster and you still have no one to call up so the Flyers would be playing with 11 forwards.
- dragonoffrost

The Phantoms aren't down to 10 forwards long term. It was a one off.

AHL teams often have 6 vets and just pick one to scratch each game assuming they are all healthy.

My mind says lose for Hughes (really either 1 or 2) but I contradict myself because when it truly comes down to it I simply cannot root for them not to win. i want to see Hart win every game giving up less than 3 goals a game. I want to see Patrick, TK, Linblom, etc put up solid numbers. I want to see Provorov and Ghost get back on track and Sanheim become a real #1 pair option.

So I guess I want to see them continue to win and see the teams around them win and have some more of that Nolan Patrick draft lottery luck

Myers is 28 right handed and has great size. Hes about as consistent of a top 4 as you could want. Been in the nhl since he was 19. We can afford to pay some veterans everyone just wants it to be duchene or panarin. A defenseman might actually do us better and be cheaper.
- Tfaehner

I like Myers, it just depends on cost and term. I believe he's coming off a deal paying him 5.5 million per and he'll be 29 at the start of his new deal. He's a good, all around player with decent skills and wheels, enormous reach and size (though he rarely uses his size in a physical manner) and he's very effective on the PK and solid in transition.

The Jets, if they plan on trying to keep Trouba, absolutely cannot afford to re-sign so it looks pretty likely that he makes it to FA. With the dearth of decent Dmen usually available in free agency, especially one who is under 30, shoots right and stands 6'8" he won't come cheap.

If you can get him for 6 years with a cap hit 6.5 million or less, I'd be interested. But if a bunch of teams bidding pushes the cap hit over 7 million, I'd probably just walk away.

My mind says lose for Hughes (really either 1 or 2) but I contradict myself because when it truly comes down to it I simply cannot root for them not to win. i want to see Hart win every game giving up less than 3 goals a game. I want to see Patrick, TK, Linblom, etc put up solid numbers. I want to see Provorov and Ghost get back on track and Sanheim become a real #1 pair option.

So I guess I want to see them continue to win and see the teams around them win and have some more of that Nolan Patrick draft lottery luck
- nastyflyergirl

I dont think it has to be either or. We should have plenty of money to spend. I'm just assuming that Provorov and Konecny are getting close to 6 million, and Sanheim gets about 3 million.

Giroux 8.275-Couturier 4.333-Konecny 6
JVR 7-Duchene 9-Voracek 8.25
Lindblom .925-Patrick .925-Frost .894
Rubstov .894-Laughton 1.5-NAK .680
Voroboyov .784

Provorov 6-Myers 7.5
Sanheim 3-Ghost 4.5
Morin .7-Myers .678
Hagg 1.15

Hart .730
Elliot or someone like Elliot 2.5

Traded: Gudas

Possibly traded MacDonald, Weise but retaining 50% salary. Close to 4 Million.

That would put us around 79.434 Million. The current cap is 79.5. Its projected to go up to 83 million in 2020 still giving us some cap space and then another large increase because of Seattle revenues.
- youarewrong

I dont think Konecny gets anything close to 6 million.

It's a travesty. Cost the Flyers the season.
- MJL

come on man, obviously Lehtera's presence on the time and/or in the lineup isn't the end all but why wouldn't you want to maximize your lineup? Why wouldn't you want to get younger in his place? Why is it wrong as a fan base to want to see a better 4th line even tho the 4th line isn't making or breaking this team? having a good 4th line could help. I'm tired of the 4th line always consisting of what is left over.

I understand why they had to take Lehtera in that trade and like Weise, he has the occasional good game but all in all he just isn't good

I like Myers, it just depends on cost and term. I believe he's coming off a deal paying him 5.5 million per and he'll be 29 at the start of his new deal. He's a good, all around player with decent skills and wheels, enormous reach and size (though he rarely uses his size in a physical manner) and he's very effective on the PK and solid in transition.

The Jets, if they plan on trying to keep Trouba, absolutely cannot afford to re-sign so it looks pretty likely that he makes it to FA. With the dearth of decent Dmen usually available in free agency, especially one who is under 30, shoots right and stands 6'8" he won't come cheap.

If you can get him for 6 years with a cap hit 6.5 million or less, I'd be interested. But if a bunch of teams bidding pushes the cap hit over 7 million, I'd probably just walk away.
- BiggE

I realize I’m stating the obvious, but the really great advantage to a free agent signing is that you didn’t give up assets to obtain the player. Hence overpaying is kind of expected. The risk of making a UFA the target is of course losing to another team in the bidding war. You end up wasting time and having zilch to show for it.

AHL Vet rules... only so many allowed per game.


So Weise and Lehtera would take 2 of the 5 Vet Spots.

Now fill in the rest of the roster and you still have no one to call up so the Flyers would be playing with 11 forwards.
- dragonoffrost

sure that may be the position they are in now but they could have called a kid like NAK up before all of these injuries happened.

I dont think it has to be either or. We should have plenty of money to spend. I'm just assuming that Provorov and Konecny are getting close to 6 million, and Sanheim gets about 3 million.

Giroux 8.275-Couturier 4.333-Konecny 6
JVR 7-Duchene 9-Voracek 8.25
Lindblom .925-Patrick .925-Frost .894
Rubstov .894-Laughton 1.5-NAK .680
Voroboyov .784

Provorov 6-Myers 7.5
Sanheim 3-Ghost 4.5
Morin .7-Myers .678
Hagg 1.15

Hart .730
Elliot or someone like Elliot 2.5

Traded: Gudas

Possibly traded MacDonald, Weise but retaining 50% salary. Close to 4 Million.

That would put us around 79.434 Million. The current cap is 79.5. Its projected to go up to 83 million in 2020 still giving us some cap space and then another large increase because of Seattle revenues.
- youarewrong

I woudn't be giving TK 6 million. in no world should TK be getting more than Couturier

come on man, obviously Lehtera's presence on the time and/or in the lineup isn't the end all but why wouldn't you want to maximize your lineup? Why wouldn't you want to get younger in his place? Why is it wrong as a fan base to want to see a better 4th line even tho the 4th line isn't making or breaking this team? having a good 4th line could help. I'm tired of the 4th line always consisting of what is left over.

I understand why they had to take Lehtera in that trade and like Weise, he has the occasional good game but all in all he just isn't good
- nastyflyergirl

You always come into these conversations and continually take them out of context. We all know that there are a number of areas where the Flyers need to improve. The bottom 6 is certainly part of that. It's a process of developing younger players. The point is not that they don't need to get better in that area, or that they need to get younger. The point is that with all that is going on this season, it shouldn't be a continued focal point to harp on constantly. As if it's a major issue why this team is struggling. It's not. Aube-Kubel, or any other younger player playing 6-7 minutes on the 4th line isn't likely to change much with what has happened this season. Then it's a question of what is better for a young player. Low minutes in the NHL or playing top minutes in all roles at the AHL level. Players much better than Aube-Kubel are struggling with the Flyers.

I woudn't be giving TK 6 million. in no world should TK be getting more than Couturier
- nastyflyergirl

I think TK at 6 mil over 8 years will be a steal. Much like the Ghost and Couts contracts are now. I think Provorov will be 6 million but more of a bridge contract.

ttt

Who cares if some fans want to lose for Hughes? They have no power and are just shouting into the wind.

Meanwhile the GM is playing forcing a guy charged with drug offenses in his native country into the lineup, even though he would be a strong contender for Worst Forward in the NHL.
- Feanor

ikr

My mind says lose for Hughes (really either 1 or 2) but I contradict myself because when it truly comes down to it I simply cannot root for them not to win. i want to see Hart win every game giving up less than 3 goals a game. I want to see Patrick, TK, Linblom, etc put up solid numbers. I want to see Provorov and Ghost get back on track and Sanheim become a real #1 pair option.

So I guess I want to see them continue to win and see the teams around them win and have some more of that Nolan Patrick draft lottery luck
- nastyflyergirl

You said it perfectly. Everytime they lose part of me inside says "lose for Hughes" just because this season is such a disappointment. It would be a cherry on top to get kakko or Hughes.
But everytime Patty, TK, provy, or especially hart do something big I jump up and down and get excited.
No way do I enjoy watching our boys lose.
I would love to see hart get 15 shutouts the rest of the season! And nothing would make me happier but realistically, like bill said, the hole is pretty deep.
I dont think any of us truly want to lose for Hughes but when we play awful hockey like we have it makes the pain a little less when I think about Hughes in orange and black

I think TK at 6 mil over 8 years will be a steal. Much like the Ghost and Couts contracts are now. I think Provorov will be 6 million but more of a bridge contract.
- youarewrong

TK most likely goes 3-4 year bridge route, I don't see him signing 8 years. I'm hoping for a 4x4. Any comparable for him that signed bridges recently?