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madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Jan 23 @ 9:53 AM ET
thoughts on Brassard for Ferland straight up?
- YouMeAndDupuis9


Do it.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jan 23 @ 9:55 AM ET
Ha can they nullify a contract that was given out by a GM that got fired two days later?
- Victoro311


hahah mulligan it.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jan 23 @ 9:55 AM ET
- best bet is to keep Brassy, eat the $3mm, hope he turns up the heat in the playoffs
- (frank) no to whoever suggested bringing back jordan staal. let him play with his brothas

- DeflatedPucks



I agree to the first part. The 2nd part, if it could work financially, I'd be all for.
sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jan 23 @ 10:01 AM ET
I like the idea of Hayes but I didnt realize he was already making 5+.....If he had more term I think it would be sweet. Get Brass out of here he's garbage.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jan 23 @ 10:05 AM ET
I like the idea of Hayes but I didnt realize he was already making 5+.....If he had more term I think it would be sweet. Get Brass out of here he's garbage.
- sammy87


The Pens aren't going to get him anyway. When it comes to guys like Stone, Duchene and Hayes, other teams will be able to offer more.

sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jan 23 @ 10:08 AM ET
The Pens aren't going to get him anyway. When it comes to guys like Stone, Duchene and Hayes, other teams will be able to offer more.
- Rinosaur


Tru Dat
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jan 23 @ 10:11 AM ET
The 3C search is going be the needle in the haystack. TIOPS a little while back mentioned a Chris Tierney. IMO it's going to be a name like that; one that is slightly off the radar, but they hope will come in and shine.

The Ducks blogger was talking more about how Montour is likely a piece to get moved. I wish there was a way for the Pens to grab him.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Jan 23 @ 10:11 AM ET
The Pens aren't going to get him anyway. When it comes to guys like Stone, Duchene and Hayes, other teams will be able to offer more.
- Rinosaur


If Stone goes to free agency, I'd do everything possible to get him short of trading Sid, Geno or Letang.

For this season....yeah....those players aren't happening.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jan 23 @ 10:14 AM ET
If Stone goes to free agency, I'd do everything possible to get him short of trading Sid, Geno or Letang.

For this season....yeah....those players aren't happening.

- madmike71


IMO the only chance we'd ever get to see Stone in a Pens sweater is this season, but it's just not gonna happen.

If Ottawa was smart they'd be attempting to deal Duchene and/or Stone to a bottom team allowing them to pre-negotiate an extension so they still have a shot at Hughes.

EDIT: Colorado has to be licking their chomps right now with OTT sitting at dead last.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jan 23 @ 10:22 AM ET
thoughts on Brassard for Ferland straight up?
- YouMeAndDupuis9

What is the upside for Carolina?
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jan 23 @ 10:23 AM ET
The 3C search is going be the needle in the haystack. TIOPS a little while back mentioned a Chris Tierney. IMO it's going to be a name like that; one that is slightly off the radar, but they hope will come in and shine.

The Ducks blogger was talking more about how Montour is likely a piece to get moved. I wish there was a way for the Pens to grab him.

- Rinosaur

Brassard and Hallander for Athanasiou and a 3rd
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jan 23 @ 10:23 AM ET
What is the upside for Carolina?
- Feds91Stammer


With Staal out and still technically in the hunt they are in need of a center. Now, I'm not saying I agree with this trade, but if I had to bring some reasoning to it; that would be it.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jan 23 @ 10:24 AM ET
Brassard and Hallander for Athanasiou and a 3rd
- Feds91Stammer




You know I'm a fan of AA, but as a winger, not a center.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jan 23 @ 10:26 AM ET
With Staal out and still technically in the hunt they are in need of a center. Now, I'm not saying I agree with this trade, but if I had to bring some reasoning to it; that would be it.
- Rinosaur

Yeah but the way that Brassard is playing negates the value for Carolina imo
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jan 23 @ 10:27 AM ET


You know I'm a fan of AA, but as a winger, not a center.

- Rinosaur

Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jan 23 @ 10:28 AM ET
Yeah but the way that Brassard is playing negates the value for Carolina imo
- Feds91Stammer


Oh, I agree. I don't think they'd do it. I also don't think moving Brassard will be easy. A GM will have to believe that Brass needs a "change of scenery."
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jan 23 @ 10:30 AM ET
Building next week's HBSL and it's not easy. It's a weird week with some players playing only one game and some playing four.

LW: Dubois, Connor, Skinner, Marchand

C: Sid, Point, Guentzel, Scheifele

RW: Wheeler, Kessel, Pastrnak, Kucherov

D: Dahlin, Werenski, Letang, Krug, Trouba, Hagg

G: Rittich and Vas
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jan 23 @ 10:32 AM ET
Building next week's HBSL and it's not easy. It's a weird week with some players playing only one game and some playing four.

LW: Dubois, Connor, Skinner, Marchand

C: Sid, Point, Guentzel, Scheifele

RW: Wheeler, Kessel, Pastrnak, Kucherov

D: Dahlin, Werenski, Letang, Krug, Trouba, Hagg

G: Rittich and Vas

- Rinosaur

Teams are starting to get bye weeks so options will be limited.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Jan 23 @ 10:33 AM ET
Oh, I agree. I don't think they'd do it. I also don't think moving Brassard will be easy. A GM will have to believe that Brass needs a "change of scenery."
- Rinosaur


That's basically it. Beyond Carolina, a GM has to believe it's a "fit" problem in Pittsburgh before anybody will trade for him. Unless of course we're giving him away. If that's the case, we should just keep him.
mjd21185
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 02.23.2018

Jan 23 @ 10:42 AM ET
The problem is even if the Penguins want to move him they would have to navigate his full no-movement clause (his contract).

This cant be true can it? I have never read it contained any sort of movement clause.
WSCTeton17
Joined: 07.29.2013

Jan 23 @ 10:52 AM ET
Honestly I have a lot of new age wussy nhl loving friends that I joke with all the time. But I’m pretty sure I would actually hate Ryan Wilson in real life.
- Grinder47

Hey ya never know. I have good friends that don’t know much about the game. I just avoid going into detail because they don’t see it. They don’t know different types of breakouts, forechecks, traps. The absolute worst part is when they get defensive about players they like.

Also side note, after just moving here in May I’ve been offered a Varsity coaching position for next season
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jan 23 @ 10:55 AM ET
Honestly I have a lot of new age wussy nhl loving friends that I joke with all the time. But I’m pretty sure I would actually hate Ryan Wilson in real life.
- Grinder47


Probably. He’s a liberal hippy that listens to Phish in his safe space. You don’t seem like the type to enjoy kickin it with libs.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jan 23 @ 10:59 AM ET
Probably. He’s a liberal hippy that listens to Phish in his safe space. You don’t seem like the type to enjoy kickin it with libs.
- j.boyd919


So if a liberal is a “lib,” would someone who used to be a conservative be an ex-con?
WSCTeton17
Joined: 07.29.2013

Jan 23 @ 11:04 AM ET
The 3C search is going be the needle in the haystack. TIOPS a little while back mentioned a Chris Tierney. IMO it's going to be a name like that; one that is slightly off the radar, but they hope will come in and shine.

The Ducks blogger was talking more about how Montour is likely a piece to get moved. I wish there was a way for the Pens to grab him.

- Rinosaur

I could definitely see the Ducks moving Montour out for more offensive help but Murray is pretty shrewd. He trades from a place of strength. If he’s moving a quality, young defender then he’s going to want quality in return. They already have Getzy, Henrique, and Kesler so I don’t see them being interested in Brass one bit. Rust is the exact type of forward they love to get. I could see them taking on hornqvist potentially but the price would have to be right for them to take on an older player I would expect the Ducks to quietly be in on Karlsson and Panarin this offseason. If they somehow land Karlsson they would just move out another defender to a team like the Leafs
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Jan 23 @ 11:05 AM ET
The problem is even if the Penguins want to move him they would have to navigate his full no-movement clause (his contract).

This cant be true can it? I have never read it contained any sort of movement clause.

- mjd21185


I did a double take on this too. RW was making a joke about his excessive contract virtually equals a no movement clause. Which is true. Gonna need to pay another team some form of compensation for them to take it.
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