Matthews is not worth 12.5M in any contract negotiation. If he's lucky, he gets Tavares money, but he needs to start putting up numbers down the stretch and into the playoffs. His numbers are inflated due to his points in October. His numbers since returning from his shoulder injury are not very good. He had an initial bump when he came back, but since that, average. Certainly not in the $12M range. Marner may be the bigger challenge, if he keeps putting up numbers going forward. Maybe $10M each is a closer number to look at.
- PrinceLH

It's way too much money for both.. It really hurts us going forward

the Leafs i think were a lot more thorough. they revamped almost everything.

Also I am not sold on the Isls just yet.
- senstroll

I think the Islanders are playing way above their heads right now. Wouldn't be surprised at all if they fall to a wild card spot, or even out of the playoffs. They'll probably be a wild card team, though.

Yup..

Naming former players from the glory years as GM didn't work, so now they are going with the brother of one of the players from those glory years..
- PatC80

also going off some of the comments i read, the Chia firing has been in the works for a few days at least.

So they must have ran the Koskanen signing by Gretzky..if they were putting him in place for now.

its hard to see a way out of this for the Loilers

Lots of people mentioning Hextall and Hunter... very Meh imo

Keith Gretzky interim GM?
- PatC80

yeah, but he's part of my favourite NHL trivia question:

Which two brothers have the most combined NHL points?

also going off some of the comments i read, the Chia firing has been in the works for a few days at least.

So they must have ran the Koskanen signing by Gretzky..if they were putting him in place for now.

its hard to see a way out of this for the Loilers

Lots of people mentioning Hextall and Hunter... very Meh imo
- senstroll

Hextall would be an interesting choice.. The dude got fired from Philly for being patient, but he was building something decent there.

yeah, but he's part of my favourite NHL trivia question:

Which two brothers have the most combined NHL points?
- Atomic Wedgie

isnt that Brent Gretzky?

yeah, but he's part of my favourite NHL trivia question:

Which two brothers have the most combined NHL points?
- Atomic Wedgie

isnt that Brent Gretzky?
- senstroll

Oh poop.

isnt that Brent Gretzky?
- senstroll

Yeah, but Keith Gretzky was drafted by Buffalo.

I think the Islanders are playing way above their heads right now. Wouldn't be surprised at all if they fall to a wild card spot, or even out of the playoffs. They'll probably be a wild card team, though.
- GreatGigInTheSky

The #'s suggest they will fall back. This is all on Trotz. What an amazing job he has done. 31st in GA to 1st. in 1 year.

yeah, but he's part of my favourite NHL trivia question:

Which two brothers have the most combined NHL points?
- Atomic Wedgie

The only kind of record Keith is associate with.

Oilers have to move past the 1980's though.

As much as we slag him gardiner is a solid top 4 dman too. The leafs seem to have one good dman on each pairing weighed down by crappy partners.
- mykokes

Good dman improve their crappy d partners not get weighed down by them.

Wow.. During the game?

@reporterchris

Peter Chiarelli was fired during the second intermission of last night's game, according to Bob Nicholson. Wanted to give him a chance to leave the building quietly

I've said it a million times. One, some or all of Lowe, Katz and Mactavish are the catalysts for the ongoing dumpster fire.
- markmark

Agreed and likewise. The whole upper management group needs to be fired.

Wow.. During the game?

@reporterchris

Peter Chiarelli was fired during the second intermission of last night's game, according to Bob Nicholson. Wanted to give him a chance to leave the building quietly
- PatC80

And in the executive box, the really good hot food is served in the first intermission.

In the second, it's just hot dogs and popcorn.

Wow.. During the game?

@reporterchris

Peter Chiarelli was fired during the second intermission of last night's game, according to Bob Nicholson. Wanted to give him a chance to leave the building quietly
- PatC80

Didn't want him to do anymore horrible signings.

And in the executive box, the really good hot food is served in the first intermission.

In the second, it's just hot dogs and popcorn.
- Atomic Wedgie

The "leave the building quietly" part is interesting...Did Nicholson say 'GTFO, and don't say a frankin word'

Didn't want him to do anymore horrible signings.
- Fakepartofme

What's our next move, Pete?

We should sign Rattie to a long term deal, he's done well with Mcdavid this year..

That's it.. You're fired.

"Chia fired dispite having built the 1st place islanders"
Lol

Islesblog twitter.

The "leave the building quietly" part is interesting...Did Nicholson say 'GTFO, and don't say a frankin word'
- PatC80

He should be looking in the mirror right now.

"Chia fired dispite having built the 1st place islanders"
Lol

Islesblog twitter.
- Fakepartofme

Keith Gretzky’s list of accomplishments:
- Bragging about taking Trent Frederic with a first rounder even though he said he was a bottom-six guy
- Taking Zboril, DeBrusk, Senyshyn instead ofBarzal, Connor, Chabot
- Overseeing four terrible drafts in Phoenix

Don't worry Edmonton... You gots dis.

He should be looking in the mirror right now.
- AdamFrench

They all should... Seems to be bigger than just Chiarelli and Nicholson acknowledged that in his press conference..

Has Muzzin played the right side at all? Anybody know?

Good dman improve their crappy d partners not get weighed down by them.
- Fakepartofme

Not if the partners are hainsey, zaitsev and ozighanov

McDavid for Matthews.

Leafs get the best young player in the game, with cost certainty.

Oilers get the Coyotes' next 4 1st round picks to jumpstart their rebuild.

win-win
- Atomic Wedgie

I can't even laugh at this anymore.

These contracts are going to be very ugly, if they can even get them done.

The only argument that Marner and Matthews need make is "We'll wait for the offer sheets".