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PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jan 23 @ 1:11 PM ET
Matthews? LOL, Not even ONE CENT of a hometown discount.

Marner maybe, but his insistence on waiting until the season is done makes me think he will end up being at least as difficult.

- Aetherial



Marner is waiting to see what Matthews gets.. Similar to what Draisaitl did
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jan 23 @ 1:14 PM ET
What I keep hearing is that Marner's camp want to be second to Matthews for the comparison. If Matthews signs for say 12.5 then Marner can come in and say he's worth 10. If Matthews signs for 11, Marner can't really say he's worth 12. (Well he can but not likely to get it.)

Personally, I'm not sure I understand everyone here. I get making money because your career is relatively short. However, how does a player always say "I like it here and want to play/win here but let's handcuff the team from helping us do that."

- Aaron_85


That 2nd point, hits the nail on the head. What's more important money or winning?
At the end of the day, are you any less rich if you sign 8 years for $72M, then if you signed 8 years for $80M
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Jan 23 @ 1:16 PM ET
That 2nd point, hits the nail on the head. What's more important money or winning?
At the end of the day, are you any less rich if you sign 8 years for $72M, then if you signed 8 years for $80M

- PatC80

yes you are $8M less rich
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jan 23 @ 1:20 PM ET
That 2nd point, hits the nail on the head. What's more important money or winning?
At the end of the day, are you any less rich if you sign 8 years for $72M, then if you signed 8 years for $80M

- PatC80


well yes you are

daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Jan 23 @ 1:22 PM ET
I think most players would take discounts if they could be guaranteed that their team would be a cup contender throughout their contract and that they wouldn't be traded. I'd go for max money myself 100% because of that uncertainty.
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Jan 23 @ 1:23 PM ET
yes you are $8M less rich
- daeth


I think his point is, what does that 8M more do for you? How many cars can you drive at once? How many houses or cottages can you be in at once?

In addition, I heard Hyman on the radio with a Sokkaloff commercial! Any Leaf can make up 8 million in endorsements.
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Jan 23 @ 1:24 PM ET
I think most players would take discounts if they could be guaranteed that their team would be a cup contender throughout their contract and that they wouldn't be traded. I'd go for max money myself 100% because of that uncertainty.
- daeth


Well the Leafs can guarantee they spend to the cap if it makes sense for the team. Look at the Islanders and the entire time Snakevares was there. They never addressed the needs really and tried to build a team on the cheap.
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Jan 23 @ 1:24 PM ET
I think his point is, what does that 8M more do for you? How many cars can you drive at once? How many houses or cottages can you be in at once?

In addition, I heard Hyman on the radio with a Sokkaloff commercial! Any Leaf can make up 8 million in endorsements.

- Aaron_85

i was just using bad humour there
bryant
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.28.2011

Jan 23 @ 1:29 PM ET
I think his point is, what does that 8M more do for you? How many cars can you drive at once? How many houses or cottages can you be in at once?

In addition, I heard Hyman on the radio with a Sokkaloff commercial! Any Leaf can make up 8 million in endorsements.

- Aaron_85

Not sure how accurate this is because I don’t have 30 million in the bank but one guy I heard on the radio who was worth close to a billion said 30 million was around the cut off.
He basiacally said you have everything you want and could ever need with 30 million. He basically said you just become more money hungry the more you get. Everything revolves around money and you end up not enjoying what you have.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Jan 23 @ 1:29 PM ET
Wow.. During the game?

@reporterchris

Peter Chiarelli was fired during the second intermission of last night's game, according to Bob Nicholson. Wanted to give him a chance to leave the building quietly

- PatC80


GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Jan 23 @ 1:30 PM ET
Mark Masters

Leafs PP units at skate

Rielly
Matthews-Kadri-Marner
Tavares

Gardiner
Moore-Kapanen-Nylander
Marleau

That 2nd pp unit is ugly. They might as well keep the top unit out there the whole time.

- bryant


I like Moore and all, but he should not be on any power play unit.
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Jan 23 @ 1:31 PM ET
Not sure how accurate this is because I don’t have 30 million in the bank but one guy I heard on the radio who was worth close to a billion said 30 million was around the cut off.
He basiacally said you have everything you want and could ever need with 30 million. He basically said you just become more money hungry the more you get. Everything revolves around money and you end up not enjoying what you have.

- bryant

FAKE NEWS. i want a 118 Wallypower. that costs like 40 million USD by itself.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jan 23 @ 1:32 PM ET
yes you are $8M less rich
- daeth





Point is, do you really need that extra $1M a year, if you have a chance at a Cup year after year?
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jan 23 @ 1:33 PM ET
I think his point is, what does that 8M more do for you? How many cars can you drive at once? How many houses or cottages can you be in at once?

In addition, I heard Hyman on the radio with a Sokkaloff commercial! Any Leaf can make up 8 million in endorsements.

- Aaron_85



Exactly, Marner has a deal with Intact Insurance, Nylander has one with Sonnet.. Matthews has a deal with ScotiaBank and Porsche..

They make money from other sources
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Jan 23 @ 1:33 PM ET


Point is, do you really need that extra $1M a year, if you have a chance at a Cup year after year?

- PatC80


Willie said YES, give my money female doges.. Hope Matthews and Marner feel differently.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jan 23 @ 1:35 PM ET
Willie said YES, give my money female doges.. Hope Matthews and Marner feel differently.
- bixll


Marner might, he grew up a fan of the Leafs.. Matthews might be trickier, because of that un-named multi-millionaire in Arizona that is willing to give him $16M per season..
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jan 23 @ 1:37 PM ET
That 2nd point, hits the nail on the head. What's more important money or winning?
At the end of the day, are you any less rich if you sign 8 years for $72M, then if you signed 8 years for $80M

- PatC80


Remember they only have a short window to make more then 10,000 people combined.
bryant
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.28.2011

Jan 23 @ 1:37 PM ET
I like Moore and all, but he should not be on any power play unit.
- GreatGigInTheSky

We have almost a healthy roster and that’s what our 2nd pp unit looks like. Whoever runs the powerplay needs to be fired.
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Jan 23 @ 1:38 PM ET
Marner might, he grew up a fan of the Leafs.. Matthews might be trickier, because of that un-named multi-millionaire in Arizona that is willing to give him $16M per season..
- PatC80

true!
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jan 23 @ 1:39 PM ET
I think his point is, what does that 8M more do for you? How many cars can you drive at once? How many houses or cottages can you be in at once?

In addition, I heard Hyman on the radio with a Sokkaloff commercial! Any Leaf can make up 8 million in endorsements.

- Aaron_85



Well once you start making a lot of money, you become accustomed to a certain lifestyle and if you are an NHL player you work from age 20-35, you then have 30-40 years to live when you retire.

8 million extra dollars is not a small amount of money
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jan 23 @ 1:39 PM ET
We have almost a healthy roster and that’s what our 2nd pp unit looks like. Whoever runs the powerplay needs to be fired.
- bryant


Maybe he looks real good on the Marlies PP?

It has to be something like that I hope.
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Jan 23 @ 1:41 PM ET
Fun Fact from your Friendly Manitoban,

Today in 1902, Winnipeg Victorias sweep Toronto Wellingtons in 2 games to win the Stanley Cup.


Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jan 23 @ 1:42 PM ET
Fun Fact from your Friendly Manitoban,

Today in 1902, Winnipeg Victorias sweep Toronto Wellingtons in 2 games to win the Stanley Cup.

- Ross77


(frank)ing refs
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jan 23 @ 1:42 PM ET
Well once you start making a lot of money, you become accustomed to a certain lifestyle and if you are an NHL player you work from age 20-35, you then have 30-40 years to live when you retire.

8 million extra dollars is not a small amount of money

- senstroll



Leafs hire former players as team ambassadors.. Marner and Matthews will still get paid long after they retire from hockey.
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Jan 23 @ 1:43 PM ET
(frank)ing refs
- Garnie

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