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Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jan 23 @ 12:39 PM ET
Not if the partners are hainsey, zaitsev and ozighanov
- mykokes


O hasn't been too bad, Dermott will take time regardless of who his partner is. IMO
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm bi. Why limit yourself with half of the possible delicious pleasures of life - Fredo, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jan 23 @ 12:39 PM ET
I can't even laugh at this anymore.

These contracts are going to be very ugly, if they can even get them done.

The only argument that Marner and Matthews need make is "We'll wait for the offer sheets".

- Aetherial

Precisely....but they will most likely sign at significant hometown discounts.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jan 23 @ 12:40 PM ET
What a depressing day for every other team....the fun is over. Think of all the questions that remain

Would have Chiarelli given Jake Gardiner 8M X 8 in the offseason
How many pucks would have Chiarelli gotten for Darnell Nurse
Will we ever be able to use the phrase "They were Chiarellied" again....

sad sad day

- Archaic


It's OK. Wait until Simmonds Lucic-es someone up the poopter on his next contract and we can all laugh and laugh
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jan 23 @ 12:41 PM ET
Precisely....but they will most likely sign at significant hometown discounts.
- Symba007


Matthews? LOL, Not even ONE CENT of a hometown discount.

Marner maybe, but his insistence on waiting until the season is done makes me think he will end up being at least as difficult.
bryant
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.28.2011

Jan 23 @ 12:42 PM ET
Matthews? LOL, Not even ONE CENT of a hometown discount.

Marner maybe, but his insistence on waiting until the season is done makes me think he will end up being at least as difficult.

- Aetherial

Marners Dad is driving the bus
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm bi. Why limit yourself with half of the possible delicious pleasures of life - Fredo, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jan 23 @ 12:43 PM ET
Matthews? LOL, Not even ONE CENT of a hometown discount.

Marner maybe, but his insistence on waiting until the season is done makes me think he will end up being at least as difficult.

- Aetherial

they have agents advising them to wait, be patient, get as much as possible, they know the Leafs have NO choice. It's just a question of time before they get what they want.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jan 23 @ 12:43 PM ET
Marners Dad is driving the bus
- bryant


Oh yeah, and I heard him on the radio talking about how Mitch played center in junior.

You know where this is going.

Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jan 23 @ 12:44 PM ET
they have agents advising them to wait, be patient, get as much as possible, they know the Leafs have NO choice. It's just a question of time before they get what they want.
- Symba007


absolutely, they will

At the cost of not being able to improve the roster around them.


Dubas should have let Nylander sit.
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm bi. Why limit yourself with half of the possible delicious pleasures of life - Fredo, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jan 23 @ 12:44 PM ET
Oh yeah, and I heard him on the radio talking about how Mitch played center in junior.

You know where this is going.

- Aetherial

Marner wants to be the #1 center is MTL?
bryant
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.28.2011

Jan 23 @ 12:44 PM ET
Mark Masters

Leafs PP units at skate

Rielly
Matthews-Kadri-Marner
Tavares

Gardiner
Moore-Kapanen-Nylander
Marleau

That 2nd pp unit is ugly. They might as well keep the top unit out there the whole time.
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Jan 23 @ 12:44 PM ET
Matthews? LOL, Not even ONE CENT of a hometown discount.

Marner maybe, but his insistence on waiting until the season is done makes me think he will end up being at least as difficult.

- Aetherial


Does waiting until the end of the season really matter? Like what is he going to do now until the end of the season that will either take money off the table or put more on?
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm bi. Why limit yourself with half of the possible delicious pleasures of life - Fredo, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jan 23 @ 12:45 PM ET
absolutely, they will

At the cost of not being able to improve the roster around them.

- Aetherial

Most players operate as small business, get as much guaranteed money as possible. (frank) the rest.
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm bi. Why limit yourself with half of the possible delicious pleasures of life - Fredo, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jan 23 @ 12:46 PM ET
Does waiting until the end of the season really matter? Like what is he going to do now until the end of the season that will either take money off the table or put more on?
- Aaron_85

doesn't matter for the agent, it's just a question of when will the Leafs cave and fork the terms needed for them to sign.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jan 23 @ 12:47 PM ET
Most players operate as small business, get as much guaranteed money as possible. (frank) the rest.
- Symba007


understood.

I think Leafs fans have had their heads in the sand ever since Dubas said they would sign all the kids.

bryant
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.28.2011

Jan 23 @ 12:48 PM ET
Does waiting until the end of the season really matter? Like what is he going to do now until the end of the season that will either take money off the table or put more on?
- Aaron_85

Maybe fear of having to perform with the contract over his head like nylander has.

Not sure how much of a distraction it would be. He’s going to get paid either way.
Kinger34
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: We may have already seen Matthews at his potential - SMBDragon, ON
Joined: 07.04.2011

Jan 23 @ 12:49 PM ET
I hope Kyle learns to just keep quiet until pen hits paper on future deals. "We can and we will" turned out horribly, and if Matthews isn't signed by the deadline, poop's going to hit the fan in T-dot. Unnecessary commentary...it doesn't need to be Lou level, but some discretion would help.
- Deeps27



Then everyone in Toronto will be screaming about where's the contract.

Then everyone outside of Toronto will troll Leafs fans about offersheets coming, Matthews doesn't want to sign, etc.

He's handling this right IMO
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Jan 23 @ 12:50 PM ET
doesn't matter for the agent, it's just a question of when will the Leafs cave and fork the terms needed for them to sign.
- Symba007


What I keep hearing is that Marner's camp want to be second to Matthews for the comparison. If Matthews signs for say 12.5 then Marner can come in and say he's worth 10. If Matthews signs for 11, Marner can't really say he's worth 12. (Well he can but not likely to get it.)

Personally, I'm not sure I understand everyone here. I get making money because your career is relatively short. However, how does a player always say "I like it here and want to play/win here but let's handcuff the team from helping us do that."
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Jan 23 @ 12:53 PM ET
Mark Masters

Leafs PP units at skate

Rielly
Matthews-Kadri-Marner
Tavares

Gardiner
Moore-Kapanen-Nylander
Marleau

That 2nd pp unit is ugly. They might as well keep the top unit out there the whole time.

- bryant

who's going to shoot on that 2nd unit
zazzle
Joined: 01.19.2013

Jan 23 @ 12:57 PM ET
The #'s suggest they will fall back. This is all on Trotz. What an amazing job he has done. 31st in GA to 1st. in 1 year.
- RogerRoeper


Lehner isn't crapping the bed either this year.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jan 23 @ 12:58 PM ET
who's going to shoot on that 2nd unit
- daeth


Willie
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Jan 23 @ 1:00 PM ET
Willie
- Garnie

the poor glass behind the net is about to be abused again
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jan 23 @ 1:01 PM ET
the poor glass behind the net is about to be abused again
- daeth



Hopefully he mostly fakes the shot and bounces a pass off someone into the net.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jan 23 @ 1:03 PM ET
lol

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Nicholson touched on the need for character. A primary focus will be on bringing in secondary leadership to help McDavid.


just shut it all down and start over. secondary leadership...wtf does that even mean?

like Lucic wasnt enough..need more
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Jan 23 @ 1:08 PM ET
lol



just shut it all down and start over. secondary leadership...wtf does that even mean?

like Lucic wasnt enough..need more

- senstroll

when i look at edmonton i think to myself "boy do they ever need more leaders" instead of "boy do they ever need better players". it's so obvious.
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Jan 23 @ 1:09 PM ET


Hopefully he mostly fakes the shot and bounces a pass off someone into the net.

- Garnie

i'd almost prefer him to jason blake it until he gets in a groove. he'd probably miss the chest and hit top corner anyway
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