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nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Jan 22 @ 11:05 AM ET
Tanner Laczynski named B1G hockey third star of the week
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 22 @ 11:07 AM ET
Question. If Farabee were to sign an NHL/AHL contract would he be able to play for the Phantoms next season?
- youarewrong


Yes, the under-20 rule is only for CHL players. Robert Hagg played for the Phantoms as a 19-year-old, AND it counted as a slide rule season since he was under 20.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Jan 22 @ 11:08 AM ET
"And one look at the Flyers’ cap situation would suggest that Simmonds, who is no doubt due a raise, is going to be heading elsewhere sooner or later."

Huh? There are reasons why Simmonds may be moving on rather than being re-signed but the cap isn't one of them. The Flyers are in good shape cap wise. Contract TERM, not cap hit, is the issue with Simmonds.

- bmeltzer


I’m thinking that the only relevant part about cap space is linked to the term. Flyers are good for the next 4 years, but if they sign Simmonds for longer than that it becomes a potential issue with the younger core and up and coming youth needing longer deals.

BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jan 22 @ 11:08 AM ET
Interesting read:

https://thehockeynews.com...rt-the-process-of-selling

- ggunky

arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Jan 22 @ 11:09 AM ET
kid is all of 20 and does show flashes to why he was picked 2nd overall. Do I wish he would have put big numbers up from the get go, sure. But i understand young players develop at their own pace. I have high hopes for Patrick
- nastyflyergirl


Yup and we saw these flashes consistently in the 2nd half of last season. He’s still very young and I’m not as worried as some people are about him and his development. My hopes are high as well and I would be very upset if he was traded, but that won’t happen.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jan 22 @ 11:10 AM ET
Is Weise officially toxic? I thought they were just trying to find him a new home, since he was unhappy w/ TOI, etc.

By all accounts, he's a really good teammate.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 22 @ 11:16 AM ET
If he refused they could mutually terminate.
- dragonoffrost


Mutual termination means both the player and the team agree to terminate the contract. Weise refusing to report to the AHL would more than likely result in the team placing him on the suspended list.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 22 @ 11:22 AM ET
It's a huge shame that NAK wasn't called up when they decided Weise's time as a Flyer was over. Now it looks like he won't play another NHL game until next season.

Meanwhile in Boston young forwards like Heinen and Forsbacka Karlsson get promoted to the NHL and given meaningful roles at age 22 after just one full season in the AHL.

- Feanor


Boston management knows what they're doing. Flyers management doesn't.
konalover711
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PHX, AZ
Joined: 10.20.2015

Jan 22 @ 11:23 AM ET
What is the extent of NAK's injury?
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jan 22 @ 11:24 AM ET
Mutual termination means both the player and the team agree to terminate the contract. Weise refusing to report to the AHL would more than likely result in the team placing him on the suspended list.
- MJL


Which then would help him decide to mutually terminate as he wouldn't be being paid while suspended and would be able to look elsewhere if his deal was terminated.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 22 @ 11:27 AM ET
Which then would help him decide to mutually terminate as he wouldn't be being paid while suspended and would be able to look elsewhere if his deal was terminated.
- dragonoffrost


Why would he walk away from that money? There are other avenues that the Flyers can try and use but mutual termination involves both side agreeing.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jan 22 @ 11:28 AM ET
Why would he walk away from that money? There are other avenues that the Flyers can try and use but mutual termination involves both side agreeing.
- MJL

Finish reading my statement...
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jan 22 @ 11:28 AM ET
Is Weise officially toxic? I thought they were just trying to find him a new home, since he was unhappy w/ TOI, etc.

By all accounts, he's a really good teammate.

- Tomahawk


There has been no evidence of Weise being toxic, yet people keep saying it as absolute fact. Maybe he is, maybe he isn't, but we know he is not part of the team and it is strange. It is absolutely possible he was given the choice to get sent down or go home, either way it ends up being the same thing.

Speaking of toxic, why do I keep reading the words "Patrick was just being polite"? Patrick doesn't have to say poop, he said it because that's how he felt. If he was being polite, he just wouldn't say anything...logic dear Watson, logic.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 22 @ 11:29 AM ET
Finish reading my statement...
- dragonoffrost


I read all of your statements in full.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 22 @ 11:33 AM ET
There has been no evidence of Weise being toxic, yet people keep saying it as absolute fact. Maybe he is, maybe he isn't, but we know he is not part of the team and it is strange. It is absolutely possible he was given the choice to get sent down or go home, either way it ends up being the same thing.

Speaking of toxic, why do I keep reading the words "Patrick was just being polite"? Patrick doesn't have to say poop, he said it because that's how he felt. If he was being polite, he just wouldn't say anything...logic dear Watson, logic.

- Glak18


I think that all makes sense but it still doesn't really explain why the Flyers have gone with only 12 forwards. Why not just keep him as a extra forward? Why did they waive him? If they want to trade him it makes sense to keep him with the team. Even play some. Why devalue your own asset that doesn't have much value to start with?
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jan 22 @ 11:34 AM ET
I think that all makes sense but it still doesn't really explain why the Flyers have gone with only 12 forwards. Why not just keep him as a extra forward? Why did they waive him? If they want to trade him it makes sense to keep him with the team. Even play some. Why devalue your own asset that doesn't have much value to start with?
- MJL


"Maybe he is, maybe he isn't, but we know he is not part of the team and it is strange."
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jan 22 @ 11:35 AM ET
I think that all makes sense but it still doesn't really explain why the Flyers have gone with only 12 forwards. Why not just keep him as a extra forward? Why did they waive him? If they want to trade him it makes sense to keep him with the team. Even play some. Why devalue your own asset that doesn't have much value to start with?
- MJL


Because if he gets hurt during game or practice then you can't move him at all.
konalover711
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PHX, AZ
Joined: 10.20.2015

Jan 22 @ 11:40 AM ET
I think Couturier goes over 30 gaol mark.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jan 22 @ 11:41 AM ET
Because if he gets hurt during game or practice then you can't move him at all.
- youarewrong


Yet Wayne Simmonds has been playing....
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jan 22 @ 11:45 AM ET
I read all of your statements in full.
- MJL


Then you didn't comprehend. Money coming in is better than being suspended and no money coming in.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jan 22 @ 12:05 PM ET
I think Couturier goes over 30 gaol mark.
- konalover711



Who cares. Not a number 1 center.



MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 22 @ 12:08 PM ET
Because if he gets hurt during game or practice then you can't move him at all.
- youarewrong


So their protecting him as an asset so he doesn't get hurt. Why aren't they doing that with Simmonds? Or Raffl?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 22 @ 12:10 PM ET
Then you didn't comprehend. Money coming in is better than being suspended and no money coming in.
- dragonoffrost


No, I comprehended completely. I was trying to explore why you think a mutual termination might happen. I'll put it as simply as I can. A mutual termination is highly unlikely. For one, Weise would be walking away from considerable money, and two, it could lead to the end of his NHL career.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jan 22 @ 12:12 PM ET
No, I comprehended completely. I was trying to explore why you think a mutual termination might happen. I'll put it as simply as I can. A mutual termination is highly unlikely. For one, Weise would be walking away from considerable money, and two, it could lead to the end of his NHL career.
- MJL



Only way i can see it happening is if his agent already has something lined up overseas.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 22 @ 12:14 PM ET
Then you didn't comprehend. Money coming in is better than being suspended and no money coming in.
- dragonoffrost


Didn't backread, but why would he be suspended at this point?
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