There is no way they make the playoffs. None.
- Bolts91

That's irrelevant. The point is that while Bergevin has made some pretty awful moves...Chiarelli has had far less success with exponentially more talent. I don't think it's even a debate.

Chiarelli turned Jordan Eberle into literally nothing with only two moves.

If Talbot is traded soon, it’ll make abit more sense

As everyone here knows, I’ve been anti chia forever. And I hated the signing outta the k. So much money for a totally unproven guy. Especially in relation to some comparables.
And even him playing well doesn’t make it any less of pure dumb luck.

But I gotta guess, they know talbs is gone and didn’t wanna risk a bidding war later on.
Is it another premature gamble ? Potentially yes, but I’ll maintain I don’t hate it.
It’s far down the pantheon of chia blunders I think.

Side note- Manning should be considered a far bigger blunder than currently been discussed
- HB77

Yes, to an extent. But the Oil can't afford to throw around that kind of coin frivolously, especially if we're hoping to upgrade the offence this off season.

If Koskinen plays 2/3rds of the remaining games, and finishes with a league average S%, then this deal won't look so bad. But what if he finishes the season with a sub .900 S%, which is entirely possible still?

That's irrelevant. The point is that while Bergevin has made some pretty awful moves...Chiarelli has had far less success with exponentially more talent. I don't think it's even a debate.

Chiarelli turned Jordan Eberle into literally nothing with only two moves.
- eichiefs9

Only one GM is dumb enough to turn PK Subban into Shea Weber. That move will forever make him the dumbest man in hockey.

Jesus Christ.
- Wildschwein

chia the type to turn wine into water

Reminder that the Oilers had to give up a 2nd rounder to get Chiarelli.
- BINGO!

bumhole.

Just looked at the upcoming free agent goalies. Aside from bob who doesn’t wanna go to edm, it’s thin AF.

And we have other bigger needs, and are tight on tradeable assets.

Just a little extra context

Only one GM is dumb enough to turn PK Subban into Shea Weber. That move will forever make him the dumbest man in hockey.
- Bolts91

I’ll see Weber for subban and raise you hall for larsson, a first and a second for reinhart, And eberle for spooner now in the ahl

Checkmate friend

Only one GM is dumb enough to turn PK Subban into Shea Weber. That move will forever make him the dumbest man in hockey.
- Bolts91

As hilariously-terrible as that move was, one awful trade doesn't automatically make you the dumbest man in hockey.

Chiarelli has demonstrated on multiple occasions that he's fully incapable of assembling a successful hockey team despite having a bevy of high selections, including one of the two best players in the world.

Ryan Richaug just said on SC that the Oilers are most likely making a GM change before or during the all star break.

Ryan Richaug just said on SC that the Oilers are most likely making a GM change before or during the all star break.
- shack67

I know Rishaug is no hack, but it seems pretty suspect that ownership would let a guy who they are about to fire negotiate a $13.5M multi-year extension for a goalie with 31 games of NHL experience.

I’ll see Weber for subban and raise you hall for larsson, a first and a second for reinhart, And eberle for spooner now in the ahl

Checkmate friend
- HB77

Well Larsson still has lots of hockey left in him. Weber will be in a seniors' home and Subban will only be entering his prime. Defensemen are worth more than wingers.

I know Rishaug is no hack, but it seems pretty suspect that ownership would let a guy who they are about to fire negotiate a $13.5M multi-year extension for a goalie with 31 games of NHL experience.
- eichiefs9

See Bingo's earlier post. Apparently the decision to extend Koskinen was a group effort.

Just looked at the upcoming free agent goalies. Aside from bob who doesn’t wanna go to edm, it’s thin AF.

And we have other bigger needs, and are tight on tradeable assets.

Just a little extra context
- HB77

despite the fact that you have the best player in the game, doesn't mean that his "prime years" are limited to the next 2 or 3. Ideally, you would want that window to be a winnable one with McDavid, but this type of spending and trading is just digging a deeper hole. Free Agency is never really the way of building a championship team either, you get the Lucic/Brouwer/Backes/LE type of overpayment deals. Despite still being in the race, it would be best to fire PC now, sell what you can this year, and start over. Acquire some picks, trade away some salary, reset with a new GM and build towards the future. Just my opinion of course.

See Bingo's earlier post. Apparently the decision to extend Koskinen was a group effort.
- Wildschwein

Oh yeah, my bad. Well...that is somehow actually more concerning. At least you expect it from Chiarelli. But if that's what the collective minds in charge of the Oilers think is a good move then the future isn't looking particularly bright.

Wow

Huge overpay for Koskinen
4.5m x 3

Poor McDavid

That is true although I think it's pretty close. Can't think of a single trade that either of them has made that was smart.
- Bolts91

Bergie got Philip Denault from Bowman for Fleischman and Wiess, probably the worst trade Bowman has made.

Well Larsson still has lots of hockey left in him. Weber will be in a seniors' home and Subban will only be entering his prime. Defensemen are worth more than wingers.
- Bolts91

He traded the MVP, rookie of the year, half of Beauvillier, and Eberle for Larsson, no-longer-with-the-Oilers AHL defenseman Griffin Reinhart, and AHL forward Ryan Spooner. He traded away two legitimate top-line stars and two top 6 forwards for, basically, Adam Larsson.

despite the fact that you have the best player in the game, doesn't mean that his "prime years" are limited to the next 2 or 3. Ideally, you would want that window to be a winnable one with McDavid, but this type of spending and trading is just digging a deeper hole. Free Agency is never really the way of building a championship team either, you get the Lucic/Brouwer/Backes/LE type of overpayment deals. Despite still being in the race, it would be best to fire PC now, sell what you can this year, and start over. Acquire some picks, trade away some salary, reset with a new GM and build towards the future. Just my opinion of course.
- Codes1087

Apologies if I gave any indication that there’s even one part of this post I disagree with. Cause there’s not

See Bingo's earlier post. Apparently the decision to extend Koskinen was a group effort.
- Wildschwein

If indeed they’re doing things by committee Chiarelli is pretty much done.

Apologies if I gave any indication that there’s even one part of this post I disagree with. Cause there’s not
- HB77

not disagreeing with you. Just countering to your BOB post. (bob would go to EDM is the money was absurd and presented to him). And Bobrosky is a hell of a goalie, but i would argue signing Koskinen (not to the term or AAV that he was) would be a better short term signing than overpaying for him.

Wow

Huge overpay for Koskinen
4.5m x 3

Poor McDavid
- mr.sir

I mean this makes him the 20th highest paid goalie in the NHL .... so I would say for a starter thats about on par

He traded the MVP, rookie of the year, half of Beauvillier, and Eberle for Larsson, no-longer-with-the-Oilers AHL defenseman Griffin Reinhart, and AHL forward Ryan Spooner. He traded away two legitimate top-line stars and two top 6 forwards for, basically, Adam Larsson.
- eichiefs9

A Hart trophy winner at or better than a ppg, A top 6 scoring winger with a career avg of 60 per, a first rounder that turned in barzal, a 2nd rounder that turned in beauvillier
For
A 2nd pairing stay at home dman with little to no offence

not disagreeing with you. Just countering to your BOB post. (bob would go to EDM is the money was absurd and presented to him). And Bobrosky is a hell of a goalie, but i would argue signing Koskinen (not to the term or AAV that he was) would be a better short term signing than overpaying for him.
- Codes1087

Again, agreed

Just wanted to be clear that there was in fact one high end goalie in this years fa crop after saying how thin it was. Either way, Bobs not really an option for a bunch of reasons

I mean this makes him the 20th highest paid goalie in the NHL .... so I would say for a starter thats about on par
- Lemmewinks

Good post

Oh god, I’ve been kinda defending chiarelli for like 2 pages now. I feel dirty

Well Larsson still has lots of hockey left in him. Weber will be in a seniors' home and Subban will only be entering his prime. Defensemen are worth more than wingers.
- Bolts91

Subban for Weber isn't as unbalanced as Hall for Larsson in my opinion, and the Hall/Larsson deal isn't close to Chia's worst. Plus, Bergy's deal for Domi, the big return he got on Patches, and going off the board for Kotkaniemi all look pretty good on him this year. There is only one undisputed champion in the worst GM category.