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2.0
Location: Dauphin, MB
Joined: 09.11.2017

Jan 22 @ 4:58 PM ET
I think everyone needs to settle down a bit about cap space with the Jets they don't have a problem. The have a risk management challenge and all teams with good players go through this. Don't be Chiarelli and it will work out okay
- Peter.Tessier


Thanks Pete for providing a little more dispassionate perspective on this. That said I think that some of the names that have been tossed around are worthy targets. Muzzin, Hayes, Getzlaff, Kopitar (doubt he would be made available), Brassard, Staal and more. All will increase cap hit, yet with all there are reasonable choices to be made to manage cap.
Peter Tessier
Joined: 10.11.2011

Jan 22 @ 5:54 PM ET
Secrets to Jets winning:
-Myers, Tanev, and Chiarot walk
-Kuli is dumped
-Laine, Connor, Morrissey, and (?)Trouba(?) gey navigated properly
-Roslovic, Petan, Niku, Appleton, Vesalainen all bridged on the cheap

- Rexypoo


I like the cut of your jib!
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Jan 22 @ 6:00 PM ET
I like the cut of your jib!
- Peter.Tessier


I like that the way the replies work makes it look like I’m one of the secrets to the Jets winning.

I’m sure this will pay off in hilariously ludicrous fashion when they win the Cup only after Brandon Tanev has sacrificed me to the Hockey Gods, or some weird sh*t
2.0
Location: Dauphin, MB
Joined: 09.11.2017

Jan 22 @ 6:02 PM ET
Secrets to Jets winning:
-Myers, Tanev, and Chiarot walk
-Kuli is dumped
-Laine, Connor, Morrissey, and (?)Trouba(?) gey navigated properly
-Roslovic, Petan, Niku, Appleton, Vesalainen all bridged on the cheap

- Rexypoo


foolishness. No winning team is going to lose 3 (maybe 4) of their starting d and expect to continue winning.

the forwards mentioned are not the core of the team, though Connor and Laine are close. It's just tinkering - perhaps better said would be:
"Secrets to Jets winning and feeding Rexypoo's machinations"
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Jan 22 @ 6:31 PM ET
foolishness. No winning team is going to lose 3 (maybe 4) of their starting d and expect to continue winning.

the forwards mentioned are not the core of the team, though Connor and Laine are close. It's just tinkering - perhaps better said would be:
"Secrets to Jets winning and feeding Rexypoo's machinations"

- 2.0

Pitt just won the cup a couple years ago with all new D
2.0
Location: Dauphin, MB
Joined: 09.11.2017

Jan 22 @ 6:56 PM ET
Pitt just won the cup a couple years ago with all new D
- Ross77


I don't see a Crosby or Malkin on the Jets, Letang was not new to the team. but point taken, there are exceptions.
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Jan 22 @ 7:10 PM ET
foolishness. No winning team is going to lose 3 (maybe 4) of their starting d and expect to continue winning.

the forwards mentioned are not the core of the team, though Connor and Laine are close. It's just tinkering - perhaps better said would be:
"Secrets to Jets winning and feeding Rexypoo's machinations"

- 2.0


No winning team is going to have Chiarot on the roster, let alone as a starter. Kulikov, Chiarot, Morrow, and Myers will all be gone. Myers is the only player you can argue belongs higher than the 6/7 role.

Vesalainen will be a part of the core, and Laine is absolutely a core player already. Connor is up in the air yet.

The rest of the forwards are not part of the core, no. What they are is cost controlled RFA depth that we have to take advantage of if we want to win. You can add Dano and Poolman into that group, as well
bikeguy99
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 09.05.2017

Jan 22 @ 11:08 PM ET
Trouba played 81 games in 2015-16 and hasn't played in more than 65 games in a season other than that. Ekblad's concussion history is a concern, but I'm just looking at realistic trade options.

Anyway, I don't think anything happens with Trouba until the Summer, they're all in with him this Year and then he's a salary cap casualty...maybe it's a Summer trade with Florida. Sell Trouba while his value is high and before teams realize he's sheltered by Morrissey

- mcjags


I think that would be a great trade. Ekblad would be a massive improvement. 3 seasons of 36+ points, while being defensively sound and a physical force at 22 years old beats the wheels off any stat trouba has ever shown!!!! Not to mention 7.5M cap hit till 2025 would be a far cheaper option than the under-achieving Trouba will demand. Don't listen to Rexy, Trouba is nothing more than a mirage, not better than Buff, Morrissey, and likely Niku in a year or two. Move the kid while he has massive value!
liverpoolnhl
Joined: 02.06.2018

Jan 22 @ 11:53 PM ET
I like that the way the replies work makes it look like I’m one of the secrets to the Jets winning.

I’m sure this will pay off in hilariously ludicrous fashion when they win the Cup only after Brandon Tanev has sacrificed me to the Hockey Gods, or some weird sh*t

- Rexypoo

Now we know, you are the 5th most significant secret to the Jets winning! .....
liverpoolnhl
Joined: 02.06.2018

Jan 23 @ 7:57 AM ET
I don't see a Crosby or Malkin on the Jets, Letang was not new to the team. but point taken, there are exceptions.
- 2.0

Letang was injured .....if memory serves
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Jan 23 @ 8:08 AM ET
Now we know, you are the 5th most significant secret to the Jets winning! .....
- liverpoolnhl


Yeah! Right behind player personnel, coaching, management, and... luck?
CharlieDog
Location: MB
Joined: 01.17.2017

Jan 23 @ 8:15 AM ET
Pitt just won the cup a couple years ago with all new D
- Ross77


Yup, that point has been made prior. Shultz was a new comer from the Oil. Remember how the Oil coach Mcellan chased him out of town, drove him to the airport and Voila, Mr Schultz wins a cup in Pitts.

So, Rexy is driving Myers, Chiarot and who else, must be Tanev to the airport, lol.
jetsnation
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 02.11.2015

Jan 23 @ 8:22 AM ET
I think everyone needs to settle down a bit about cap space with the Jets they don't have a problem. The have a risk management challenge and all teams with good players go through this. Don't be Chiarelli and it will work out okay
- Peter.Tessier


I'm on board with Peter on this. Lets make no mistake here. The Jets under Chevy are a draft and develop team and will continue to do so . The only tweaking will be relatively minor. The formula is definitely working as the Jets have been a top-three team the last two years.

So all this nonsense about wholesale changes to this team are just nothing but wild theories and innuendo. Chevy will do his best to extend all three of Tanev , Chariot , and Myers. All three of these players have had excellent seasons to date and seem to be getting better by the week. They deserve to be extended and Tanev and Chariot will get pay raises. Myers will remain as a Jets top four defensemen. He has excelled with those big top four minutes this season. You don't just walk away from players like that. Dynasties are built on player's long term familiarity with each other and their lines.

The only changes you may see is Kulikov and Trouba will likely be gone. Possibly one winger as well which is most likely Perreault. Kulikov needs to go to get some cap room and make room for Niku. Trouba has been developed to his maximum potential which turns out isn't as high as everyone or himself thinks. He won't stay anyways so sell him high. Perreault is gone because he needs to make room for the new draft and develop crop of Lemieux , Appleton, Vesalainen, and Roslovic. Vesalainen hasn't had enough time to make a judgment but the other three have shown they have significant upside. I know good talent when I see it , some with disagree with my assessment though. Petan and Dano were just bad experiments.

As for Laine. He's the only Jet that has regressed....big time. He's 17th in goals and not in top 100 in points. He leads the NHL in giveaways and his advanced stats are horrific. Chevy will want to see some growth in his game before he signs him to some ludicrous contract. Laine will get a bridge deal for sure. Thats should solve the Jets cap problems for a few years and enable Tanev, Myers, and Chariot to stay.

So I forsee just those few changes. I believe Perreault gets dealt at the deadline. His role has become redundant. The need is a 2nd line center. I like Couturier or Staal in that role as a rental. Kreider or Duchense would be fine as well.
bikeguy99
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 09.05.2017

Jan 23 @ 11:13 AM ET
I'm on board with Peter on this. Lets make no mistake here. The Jets under Chevy are a draft and develop team and will continue to do so . The only tweaking will be relatively minor. The formula is definitely working as the Jets have been a top-three team the last two years.

So all this nonsense about wholesale changes to this team are just nothing but wild theories and innuendo. Chevy will do his best to extend all three of Tanev , Chariot , and Myers. All three of these players have had excellent seasons to date and seem to be getting better by the week. They deserve to be extended and Tanev and Chariot will get pay raises. Myers will remain as a Jets top four defensemen. He has excelled with those big top four minutes this season. You don't just walk away from players like that. Dynasties are built on player's long term familiarity with each other and their lines.

The only changes you may see is Kulikov and Trouba will likely be gone. Possibly one winger as well which is most likely Perreault. Kulikov needs to go to get some cap room and make room for Niku. Trouba has been developed to his maximum potential which turns out isn't as high as everyone or himself thinks. He won't stay anyways so sell him high. Perreault is gone because he needs to make room for the new draft and develop crop of Lemieux , Appleton, Vesalainen, and Roslovic. Vesalainen hasn't had enough time to make a judgment but the other three have shown they have significant upside. I know good talent when I see it , some with disagree with my assessment though. Petan and Dano were just bad experiments.

As for Laine. He's the only Jet that has regressed....big time. He's 17th in goals and not in top 100 in points. He leads the NHL in giveaways and his advanced stats are horrific. Chevy will want to see some growth in his game before he signs him to some ludicrous contract. Laine will get a bridge deal for sure. Thats should solve the Jets cap problems for a few years and enable Tanev, Myers, and Chariot to stay.

So I forsee just those few changes. I believe Perreault gets dealt at the deadline. His role has become redundant. The need is a 2nd line center. I like Couturier or Staal in that role as a rental. Kreider or Duchense would be fine as well.

- jetsnation


100% agree with you. Especially Trouba. I think Bridging Laine would be beneficial, as he will likely play his value down over the next season or two. Kuli has looked good, which may make him a viable trade option. I would have no issues with Buff, Morrissey, Niku, Chiarot, Morrow, and potentially Meyers (at a pay cut) going into next season. I assume Trouba would be moved for a top 4 D, but a high quality rookie contract wouldn't hurt either.

Curious where these Couturier rumors are stemming from. The kid only 26, just shy of 1ppg and is VERY cap friendly until 2022.
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Jan 23 @ 2:18 PM ET
100% agree with you. Especially Trouba. I think Bridging Laine would be beneficial, as he will likely play his value down over the next season or two. Kuli has looked good, which may make him a viable trade option. I would have no issues with Buff, Morrissey, Niku, Chiarot, Morrow, and potentially Meyers (at a pay cut) going into next season. I assume Trouba would be moved for a top 4 D, but a high quality rookie contract wouldn't hurt either.

Curious where these Couturier rumors are stemming from. The kid only 26, just shy of 1ppg and is VERY cap friendly until 2022.

- bikeguy99


the Rumors started here as just talk of who we might like. there are honestly no rumors of who the jets want at this deadline circling. chevy is a vault.

as per this talk of Chairot, Tanev and Myers. these three couldn't be more easily replaceable and dishing out raises to these guys is how you turn into Edmonton
bikeguy99
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 09.05.2017

Jan 23 @ 2:33 PM ET
the Rumors started here as just talk of who we might like. there are honestly no rumors of who the jets want at this deadline circling. chevy is a vault.

as per this talk of Chairot, Tanev and Myers. these three couldn't be more easily replaceable and dishing out raises to these guys is how you turn into Edmonton

- Ross77


Whoa..... who said raises. I like Meyers, but at 4M AAV going forward. Big Tanev fan, but at 27 years old, he likely won't be a better player than he is today. I would be happy to see him sign something like 3 years at 2M AAV, as I have found him the most impressive player on that dominant (and dirt cheap) third line. As for Chiarot, he has been a pleasant surprise. His offensive production is LOW considering his TOI and pairing with Buff, so he could be replaced in a heartbeat, whether poolman, Morrow, Niku want to step up. All affordable, and with higher ceilings. In no way do I see this resembling Edmonton. These will all be low term, small contracts, or they can certainly walk into free agency. With Appleton, Petan, Lemieux, Dano all competing for those final couple spots in the bottom 6, there is a log-jam of quality talent.
CorydonKeith
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 01.22.2014

Jan 23 @ 2:50 PM ET
PLAYOFFS !! ... think playoffs only

2C and LHD to add ... rentals only needed

Otherwise - take the break and get prepped for the run
jetsnation
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 02.11.2015

Jan 23 @ 2:51 PM ET
Whoa..... who said raises. I like Meyers, but at 4M AAV going forward. Big Tanev fan, but at 27 years old, he likely won't be a better player than he is today. I would be happy to see him sign something like 3 years at 2M AAV, as I have found him the most impressive player on that dominant (and dirt cheap) third line. As for Chiarot, he has been a pleasant surprise. His offensive production is LOW considering his TOI and pairing with Buff, so he could be replaced in a heartbeat, whether poolman, Morrow, Niku want to step up. All affordable, and with higher ceilings. In no way do I see this resembling Edmonton. These will all be low term, small contracts, or they can certainly walk into free agency. With Appleton, Petan, Lemieux, Dano all competing for those final couple spots in the bottom 6, there is a log-jam of quality talent.
- bikeguy99


The raises I was referring to are for Tanev and Chariot who both have ridiculously low salaries. Yes , Tanev $2m is about right for another 2 year, and Chariot about $1.6 MM. Myers deserves $5 MM per at a minimum. He plays about 22 minutes a game and is a top-four defenceman so it can't be much lower than that.

Dano is not competing for a spot anymore. He's now a career AHL'er. Petan soon to follow.
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Jan 23 @ 3:17 PM ET
PLAYOFFS !! ... think playoffs only

2C and LHD to add ... rentals only needed

Otherwise - take the break and get prepped for the run

- CorydonKeith


the one exception to center could be Stone, if Ottawa chooses to sign Duchene and not Stone. how would this look? wont see me complaining

Laine - Shief - Wheels
Connor - Little - Stone
Ehlers - Lowry - Ras
Perreault - Copp - Tanev
Lemieux/Petan
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Jan 23 @ 3:23 PM ET
The raises I was referring to are for Tanev and Chariot who both have ridiculously low salaries. Yes , Tanev $2m is about right for another 2 year, and Chariot about $1.6 MM. Myers deserves $5 MM per at a minimum. He plays about 22 minutes a game and is a top-four defenceman so it can't be much lower than that.

Dano is not competing for a spot anymore. He's now a career AHL'er. Petan soon to follow.

- jetsnation


I could live or live without with the Tanev and Chairot deals but i'm not giving Myers 5, he is NOT a top 4 D, you base this entirely on minutes played, not every d in the league that plays this much should be considered top 4.

I'm fine with your assessment of Dano as he's had chances on 4 NHL teams. Petan has not been given this same opportunity. Petan looked good in every game he played this year, why he's in the press box this long doesn't make sense.
jetsnation
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 02.11.2015

Jan 23 @ 3:58 PM ET
I could live or live without with the Tanev and Chairot deals but i'm not giving Myers 5, he is NOT a top 4 D, you base this entirely on minutes played, not every d in the league that plays this much should be considered top 4.

I'm fine with your assessment of Dano as he's had chances on 4 NHL teams. Petan has not been given this same opportunity. Petan looked good in every game he played this year, why he's in the press box this long doesn't make sense.

- Ross77


I guess I should qualify Petan. He could definitely make some NHL rosters. Basically, any team in the bottom 20% of the league could likely use his services. He is however, a very poor fit for the Jets and just isn't up to the caliber of the players that have now surpassed him such as Lemieux and Appleton.

Myers would be a top-four defencemen on any team not named the Lightning, Sharks, or Flames. On the Jets he's top four caliber and minutes but paired as 5/6 due to his right shot position in the depth chart. He has been outstanding for the last 30 games including so many goal-saving plays I've lost count and those early season gaffes have been virtually eliminated which is something I can't say about any other Jet's Dman. He's also better than Trouba on both the PK and PP. He does not nearly get the credit he deserves on these boards but more importantly, he gets tremendous credit from his teammates and coaches and that's what really matters. You don't have to be a Myers fan but his contribution to the team's success is undeniable.
jetsnation
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 02.11.2015

Jan 23 @ 4:03 PM ET
I guess I should qualify Petan. He could definitely make some NHL rosters. Basically, any team in the bottom 20% of the league could likely use his services. He is however, a very poor fit for the Jets and just isn't up to the caliber of the players that have now surpassed him such as Lemieux and Appleton.

Myers would be a top-four defencemen on any team not names the Lightning, Sharks, or Flames. On the Jets he's top four caliber and minutes but paired as 5/6 due to his right shot position in the depth chart. He has been outstanding for the last 30 games including so many goal-saving plays I've lost count and those early season gaffes have been virtually eliminated which is something I can't say about any other Jet's Dman. He's also better than Trouba on both the PK and PP. He does not nearly get the credit he deserves on these boards but more importantly, he gets tremendous credit from his teammates and coaches and that's what really matters. You don't have to be a Myers fan but his contribution to the team's success is undeniable.

- jetsnation


I should also add that despite Statsny's chemistry in last years playoffs , the cost was quite steep. We lost a promising Eric Foley who's success is yet to be determined , but more importantly , Rasmus Sandin looks like an awesome prospect who would /could have been ours. I'd rather trade away a redundant Perreault that lose another great prospect.
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Jan 23 @ 4:48 PM ET
I should also add that despite Statsny's chemistry in last years playoffs , the cost was quite steep. We lost a promising Eric Foley who's success is yet to be determined , but more importantly , Rasmus Sandin looks like an awesome prospect who would /could have been ours. I'd rather trade away a redundant Perreault that lose another great prospect.
- jetsnation


every year only one team will win the cup and then can say whatever deadline deal they made was worth it. all other teams will question the trades based on the cost.
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Jan 23 @ 5:32 PM ET
No winning team is going to have Chiarot on the roster, let alone as a starter. Kulikov, Chiarot, Morrow, and Myers will all be gone. Myers is the only player you can argue belongs higher than the 6/7 role.

Vesalainen will be a part of the core, and Laine is absolutely a core player already. Connor is up in the air yet.

The rest of the forwards are not part of the core, no. What they are is cost controlled RFA depth that we have to take advantage of if we want to win. You can add Dano and Poolman into that group, as well

- Rexypoo


I don't know but the Jets have been a winning team the last two seasons with him as a starter the last time I checked. I don't know maybe the standings have been wrong.
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Jan 23 @ 5:33 PM ET
Yup, that point has been made prior. Shultz was a new comer from the Oil. Remember how the Oil coach Mcellan chased him out of town, drove him to the airport and Voila, Mr Schultz wins a cup in Pitts.

So, Rexy is driving Myers, Chiarot and who else, must be Tanev to the airport, lol.

- CharlieDog


Don't forget how we all drove Ron Hainsey and Johnny Oduya to the airport as well. Both guys have 3 cups between them now!
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