No to that trade, but it’s close. Couturier is the perfect 2C for us. Provorov is having a horrific season, though, and I’m not trading Laine for anything.

This wouldn’t even be a discussion if Maurice would apply some testicular fortitude and put Laine up with Scheifele. Wheeler and Scheifele need to be split up now that we’re Ehlers-less
- Rexypoo

Domi had a horrific season last year too! Sometimes a player needs a change of scenery and teammates and things can change. Provorov could be that player and plus he's got a massive upside. I am astonished how well Chabot and Hanafin (Both in Provorov's draft class) have played when given crucial roles

Putting Laine with Scheifele and Wheeler completely proves you agree with my point that Laine is incapable of making his line mates better, but needs line mates to make him better.

With the funk Florida is in I'd see if they were interested in a Trouba for Ekblad trade. Maybe there is a bigger trade where you could get Trochek or Bjugstad as well. You'd probably be looking at including Roslovic or Appleton then...but maybe thy'd take Petan off our hands as a throw in.
- mcjags

This ticks a lot of boxes, but is ultimately the wrong target.

The good:
-Similar age, and level of responsibility
-Righty
-Contract comparable to what Trouba will end up with

The bad:
-Has struggled mightily to keep up his level of play in the post-Brian Campbell era
-Is not as good as Trouba, nor does he live up to his own cap hit
-Has more concussions than NHL seasons played at the NHL level

Ekblad is the closest trade offer I’ve seen, but the risk that he won’t see a jump in play here (or that he’s hit into retirement) is too great

Domi had a horrific season last year too! Sometimes a player needs a change of scenery and teammates and things can change. Provorov could be that player and plus he's got a massive upside. I am astonished how well Chabot and Hanafin (Both in Provorov's draft class) have played when given crucial roles

Putting Laine with Scheifele and Wheeler completely proves you agree with my point that Laine is incapable of making his line mates better, but needs line mates to make him better.
- TheUltimateJet

Domi... is certainly better than Arizona made him look last season, but he’s also about to get Falcon punched by regression. Provorov would likely be A LOT better as a Jet, so fair enough. I can’t decide if I’m more impressed with Chabot for breaking out in Ottawa, or Hanafin for carrying Hamonic to decency.

As for Laine, he’s not an amazing play driver. He’s just above the tread water line, similar to Scheifele at his age. He’s having a positive effect on everyone, but he can’t pull anyone along like Wheeler/Scheifele/Perreault/Lowry/Ehlers. Put Laine with a good play driver, and he steps up. Put him with Little and Connor, and he gets dragged down.

I’m not at all worried about Laine. He’s an offensive juggernaut, the rest of his game is over the line of passability, and he’s still 5 years from his peak. He will be elite, but he still needs help at this stage, and Maurice refuses to do anything but watch him flounder with Little

If we were to ship Trouba + to L.A. for Muzzin and Martinez...

... what would we have to add to Trouba?

Their salaries are reasonable, and they're locked up for another 2 and 1 years respectively.

I've got horrible Winnipeg bias, so wondering... Trouba + First rounder + ? for those guys?
- Lav5000

If Trouba doesn't resign with the Jets he's gone by the trade deadline and should bring back a better return than Muzzin and Martinez without having to add a first.

If we were to ship Trouba + to L.A. for Muzzin and Martinez...

... what would we have to add to Trouba?

Their salaries are reasonable, and they're locked up for another 2 and 1 years respectively.

I've got horrible Winnipeg bias, so wondering... Trouba + First rounder + ? for those guys?
- Lav5000

If Trouba doesn't resign with the Jets he's gone by the trade deadline and should bring back a better return than Muzzin and Martinez without having to add a first.

Carolina owner wants to make a splash?

Laine

For

Jacob Slavin LHD (fantastic player 5 yrs to go)
Michael Ferland - UFA but great for playoffs
2019 1st rd pick
2020 1st rd pick

If Trouba doesn't resign with the Jets he's gone by the trade deadline and should bring back a better return than Muzzin and Martinez without having to add a first.
- islansjet

No incentive to move him at the deadline as an RFA, extension or not. He’s too good to move just because

Carolina owner wants to make a splash?

Laine

For

Jacob Slavin LHD (fantastic player 5 yrs to go)
Michael Ferland - UFA but great for playoffs
2019 1st rd pick
2020 1st rd pick
- jjonah

You have my curiosity. Add El Niño, and you’ve got my full erecti- *cough* attention

Getzlaf is a no. Too much money for too long at too old an age. He’s not worth what Ehlers is, and he will not be the better player in two years time, if he even is now
- Rexypoo

The point is to win now with this. Who gives us a better chance at the cup this year, Ehlers or getzlaf? The answer is not Ehlers.

If Trouba doesn't resign with the Jets he's gone by the trade deadline and should bring back a better return than Muzzin and Martinez without having to add a first.
- islansjet

Trouba will be trades in the summer if he doesn’t sign, not before hand.

Carolina owner wants to make a splash?

Laine

For

Jacob Slavin LHD (fantastic player 5 yrs to go)
Michael Ferland - UFA but great for playoffs
2019 1st rd pick
2020 1st rd pick
- jjonah

I’ve thought about this a little as well but I’d only take Slavin and Svchankov (spelling?)

I’d like that but they aren’t parting with the Russian! He’s dynamic and they have so little of that....

Carolina seems like a decent partner to me in some type of deal.

Anaheim might be another

Wouldn’t it be awesome if we somehow got Muzzin and Duchene and it cost us a first, 2nd, Stanley, Appleton and Harkins and then we recouped the first rounder in a last second deadline day Myers deal.
Or flopped Myers for Puljujarvi.

I’d like that but they aren’t parting with the Russian! He’s dynamic and they have so little of that....

Carolina seems like a decent partner to me in some type of deal.

Anaheim might be another
- jjonah

Ya I agree about Carolina as a partner, but don’t discount the owner is desperate to make a splash and the GM ruined Atlanta.
I’ve also thought if we end up dealing Trouba this summer for a top 6 forward we could see Connor or raslovic to Carolina for Hamilton or Bean and prospect or something

This ticks a lot of boxes, but is ultimately the wrong target.

The good:
-Similar age, and level of responsibility
-Righty
-Contract comparable to what Trouba will end up with

The bad:
-Has struggled mightily to keep up his level of play in the post-Brian Campbell era
-Is not as good as Trouba, nor does he live up to his own cap hit
-Has more concussions than NHL seasons played at the NHL level

Ekblad is the closest trade offer I’ve seen, but the risk that he won’t see a jump in play here (or that he’s hit into retirement) is too great
- Rexypoo

Yes, concussion sare an issue but, I'm too lazy to look it up, Trouba hasn't been a model of health in his career.. I think if Ekblad played on a team like Winnipeg his numbers would be better overall. It's not like he's been surrounded by a great team at any point in his career.

Yes, concussion sare an issue but, I'm too lazy to look it up, Trouba hasn't been a model of health in his career.. I think if Ekblad played on a team like Winnipeg his numbers would be better overall. It's not like he's been surrounded by a great team at any point in his career.
- mcjags

I agree Ekblad would be better in Winnipeg, but he’s isn’t really driving the play in Florida. It’s not a situation like Letang dragging a battered Pittsburgh blueline to respectability for 53 games per year. He doesn’t elevate other players like a top guy needs to.
Ekblad is a top tier #3, who can punch up to being a #2, being deployed as a #1.

As for the injury front, Trouba has had a few over his short career, but none have been recurring. Ekblad is very realistically one blown hit away from retirement

*edit*
I’m throwing links around, so here’s Ekblad VS Trouba
https://public.tableau.co...SXYPFY?:display_count=yes

Wouldn’t it be awesome if we somehow got Muzzin and Duchene and it cost us a first, 2nd, Stanley, Appleton and Harkins and then we recouped the first rounder in a last second deadline day Myers deal.
Or flopped Myers for Puljujarvi.
- Ross77

Don’t tease me, Ross

The point is to win now with this. Who gives us a better chance at the cup this year, Ehlers or getzlaf? The answer is not Ehlers.
- Ross77

It honestly might be Ehlers. I cannot stress enough how badly this team has been performing without Ehlers. Scheifele is basically 100% of our controlled zone entries now

*edit*
It is very easily Ehlers
https://public.tableau.co...H89MJ3?:display_count=yes

I agree Ekblad would be better in Winnipeg, but he’s isn’t really driving the play in Florida. It’s not a situation like Letang dragging a battered Pittsburgh blueline to respectability for 53 games per year. He doesn’t elevate other players like a top guy needs to.
Ekblad is a top tier #3, who can punch up to being a #2, being deployed as a #1.

As for the injury front, Trouba has had a few over his short career, but none have been recurring. Ekblad is very realistically one blown hit away from retirement
- Rexypoo

Trouba played 81 games in 2015-16 and hasn't played in more than 65 games in a season other than that. Ekblad's concussion history is a concern, but I'm just looking at realistic trade options.

Anyway, I don't think anything happens with Trouba until the Summer, they're all in with him this Year and then he's a salary cap casualty...maybe it's a Summer trade with Florida. Sell Trouba while his value is high and before teams realize he's sheltered by Morrissey

Trouba played 81 games in 2015-16 and hasn't played in more than 65 games in a season other than that. Ekblad's concussion history is a concern, but I'm just looking at realistic trade options.

Anyway, I don't think anything happens with Trouba until the Summer, they're all in with him this Year and then he's a salary cap casualty...maybe it's a Summer trade with Florida. Sell Trouba while his value is high and before teams realize he's sheltered by Morrissey
- mcjags

*whispers* he’s really not sheltered by Morrissey. The improvement-via-partner relationship between 44 and 8 is a two way one.

That said, I love this kind of speculation

Trouba played 81 games in 2015-16 and hasn't played in more than 65 games in a season other than that. Ekblad's concussion history is a concern, but I'm just looking at realistic trade options.

Anyway, I don't think anything happens with Trouba until the Summer, they're all in with him this Year and then he's a salary cap casualty...maybe it's a Summer trade with Florida. Sell Trouba while his value is high and before teams realize he's sheltered by Morrissey
- mcjags

McJags. I'm not sure Ekblad is a great fit for the Jets. He's not known for being a very good skater. He's been known to be a party animal and my son has been to several of his wild parties ( in the summer though) , he has concussed several times, and finally, there is the whole thing about him getting rabies from a fox bite although my son has never asked him about that. Sounds like too much baggage to me.

I do agree though on Morrissey sheltering Trouba. Your dead right on that. Trouba's gone after season end.

Trouba played 81 games in 2015-16 and hasn't played in more than 65 games in a season other than that. Ekblad's concussion history is a concern, but I'm just looking at realistic trade options.

Anyway, I don't think anything happens with Trouba until the Summer, they're all in with him this Year and then he's a salary cap casualty...maybe it's a Summer trade with Florida. Sell Trouba while his value is high and before teams realize he's sheltered by Morrissey
- mcjags

what you are not taking into account is what Getzlaf could do for Laine.

what you are not taking into account is what Getzlaf could do for Laine.
- Ross77

I really don't understand the benefit in taking on Getzlaf's contract. As much as there are parts of a player's game that are desirable you also take the contract liability which cannot be hidden in short term. Now the big thing for all teams is the upcoming expansion draft. IF you can somehow work it so that you can absorb a contract for 2 years then maybe but that's a very "IF"

I really don't understand the benefit in taking on Getzlaf's contract. As much as there are parts of a player's game that are desirable you also take the contract liability which cannot be hidden in short term. Now the big thing for all teams is the upcoming expansion draft. IF you can somehow work it so that you can absorb a contract for 2 years then maybe but that's a very "IF"
- Peter.Tessier

It’s about going all in to win now. No one knows what will happen with Myers, Trouba, Laine and Connors next deals. There could be trades, hold outs who knows. Kulikov can be bought out or moved in the deal for cap space. Worrying about cap space is always easier after winning the cup then it is after falling short. Getzlaf has three years left I think. Is it better to waste picks and prospects every year at the deadline or just once now ? Bottom line, there are no guarantees in hockey, we could go all in and lose just like we can play it safe and fall just short every year. No one knows, well Tony Romo does but he’s not responding to me yet.

It’s about going all in to win now. No one knows what will happen with Myers, Trouba, Laine and Connors next deals. There could be trades, hold outs who knows. Kulikov can be bought out or moved in the deal for cap space. Worrying about cap space is always easier after winning the cup then it is after falling short. Getzlaf has three years left I think. Is it better to waste picks and prospects every year at the deadline or just once now ? Bottom line, there are no guarantees in hockey, we could go all in and lose just like we can play it safe and fall just short every year. No one knows, well Tony Romo does but he’s not responding to me yet.
- Ross77

My issue with this is that Getzlaf isn’t as good as you think he is anymore, and he’s only going to continue downward. I’d rather not make a Getzlaf deal at all, and have a chance at sustained winning, than make a Getzlaf deal now to have the same exact odds for fewer years