I've seen the clips. He had a bad game. And guess what: every D has a bad game once in a while.

You guys are freaks in here with your quest for perfection from an incredibly imperfect game that's played at an incredibly fast pace.
- gravyface

I see quite a few Philadelphia games (since they play some games Sat afternoon which is a good time for me in Europe). Gudas is not good, for example he isn't an upgrade at all over Ozhiganov.

Ok. If you insert Gudas, who comes out?
- Leafsmart

Oz. And yes he's an upgrade over Oz.

Holy crap all the negativity with Nylander is way over reaction. He's sucked this year so far, but that's not surprising when you start mid season.

He certainly doesnt suck, and can score .
- Archaic

The mid season start was on him - not the Leafs. As a comparison (although he sucks when compared to Pasta) Pastrnak came in and has been a top line, hard working and producing Bruin since he signed is first RFA deal. Nylander by contrast has been a giant piece of sh!t despite playing mostly with skilled players. It's on him to show some pride and earn that juicy payday.

Oz. And yes he's an upgrade over Oz.
- gravyface

You've got to be kidding. Right?

The mid season start was on him - not the Leafs. As a comparison (although he sucks when compared to Pasta) Pastrnak came in and has been a top line, hard working and producing Bruin since he signed is first RFA deal. Nylander by contrast has been a giant piece of sh!t despite playing mostly with skilled players. It's on him to show some pride and earn that juicy payday.
- winsix

it is absolute bedlam in here. Just baseless nonsense across the board.

You've got to be kidding. Right?
- Leafsmart

You've watched Oz play right? Dermott props that guy up a lot.

You've watched Oz play right? Dermott props that guy up a lot.
- gravyface

The comments here right now are a bit overboard on some things. Gudas is better then Oz for sure

Oz. And yes he's an upgrade over Oz.
- gravyface

debatable

it is absolute bedlam in here. Just baseless nonsense across the board.
- gravyface

how has nylander been good this season?
previous 2 seasons he was playing well / ok (mostly riding matthews' slipstream matthews though), but this season he's been really bad.
not like that's a huge surprise; it was always very clear that he wasn't in the marner-matthews-tavares category..

You've watched Oz play right? Dermott props that guy up a lot.
- gravyface

What exactly do you think Gudas adds to the Leafs?

What exactly do you think Gudas adds to the Leafs?
- winsix

more grit, more penalties, and more make up calls going our way so the PP can do jack (frank)

basically

more grit, more penalties, and more make up calls going our way so the PP can do jack (frank)

basically
- daeth

Actually you make a good point about taking more penalties. As stupid as it may sound, adding toughness would increase the penalties both ways. Not so bad if the Leafs can produce like the first few weeks of the season. I think Gudas is a waste though, if you want an available really tough MOFO, that is a RHD and cheap, call the Rangers about McQuaid. Probably cost a third rounder or less and Marner, Matthews and Tavares can play like they're 10 feet tall.

Actually you make a good point about taking more penalties. As stupid as it may sound, adding toughness would increase the penalties both ways. Not so bad if the Leafs can produce like the first few weeks of the season. I think Gudas is a waste though, if you want an available really tough MOFO, that is a RHD and cheap, call the Rangers about McQuaid. Probably cost a third rounder or less and Marner, Matthews and Tavares can play like they're 10 feet tall.
- winsix

the athletic had an article on powerplays. seems the best way to get more powerplays is to take more penalties lol. refs are (frank)ing trash in this league.

it is absolute bedlam in here. Just baseless nonsense across the board.
- gravyface

It's the tweaking that unites us all.

the athletic had an article on powerplays. seems the best way to get more powerplays is to take more penalties lol. refs are (frank)ing trash in this league.
- daeth

Totally agree. They won't miss a delay of game for flipping the puck over the glass, but hooking, interference, holding, slashing, tripping................ reminds me of judged sports at the olympics.

My favourite part of the kapanen talk is a lot of posters here had him in their trades for defensemen at the beginning of last season because he wasnt "much of a prospect". All of them are saying hes now untradeable.
- Aaron_85

Yeah....and Sandin has emerged over Liljegren. Prospects either get better or they don’t.

It’s why they have value in a trade. You trade them hoping they won’t reach their potential but if you are going to get you have to give.

Totally agree. They won't miss a delay of game for flipping the puck over the glass, but hooking, interference, holding, slashing, tripping................ reminds me of judged sports at the olympics.
- winsix

everyone loves sharts right? HERES A SHART

everyone loves sharts right? HERES A SHART


- daeth

everyone loves sharts right? HERES A SHART


- daeth

That's a shart that becomes a shower!

- winsix

anyone else get that stomach bug that has been going around? i drew a nice shart in my underwear when i got it, in fact that was how i found out i had it. thankfully i was home when it happened.

Do you all think Freddie gets the start tonight? Need to stream a goalie and that’s always tough on Sunday.

anyone else get that stomach bug that has been going around? i drew a nice shart in my underwear when i got it, in fact that was how i found out i had it. thankfully i was home when it happened.
- daeth

You've watched Oz play right? Dermott props that guy up a lot.
- gravyface

I think Oz has actually been playing better hockey the past few games. I agree that Dermott makes him better, just that I think he's been better lately.

Do you all think Freddie gets the start tonight? Need to stream a goalie and that’s always tough on Sunday.
- RickJames77

He should, yeah. Sparks started last game.

Do you all think Freddie gets the start tonight? Need to stream a goalie and that’s always tough on Sunday.
- RickJames77

Kristen Shilton


#Leafs lines at morning skate:

Hyman-Tavares-Marner
Johnsson-Matthews-Brown
Marleau-Kadri-Kapanen
Lindholm-Gauthier-Nylander

Rielly-Hainsey
Gardiner-Zaitsev
Dermott-Ozhiganov
Marincin-Holl

Andersen
Sparks