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TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Jan 18 @ 9:25 AM ET
There hasn't been enough discussion about one of the more interesting developments of late, which is that the Chicago Blackhawks are making a strong push for the 1st overall pick. It would be hilarious if Colorado didn't own the Sens 1st rounder.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jan 18 @ 9:26 AM ET
Fixed
- Archaic



Hard core to get the ahl game enter like that.

Props
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Jan 18 @ 9:30 AM ET
0 positives.
- plantheparade



You should prolly pick another team to cheer for. Because you don't cheer for your team, you ridicule them constantly.

By the way, if you don't watch the games, how do you have such an obnoxious opinion ??
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jan 18 @ 9:31 AM ET
There hasn't been enough discussion about one of the more interesting developments of late, which is that the Chicago Blackhawks are making a strong push for the 1st overall pick. It would be hilarious if Colorado didn't own the Sens 1st rounder.
- TheMussel

I think New Jersey ends in last.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jan 18 @ 9:33 AM ET
I have a question for all regarding this play.

If the Leafs went back up the ice and scored, could the Lightning have the goal reviewed by calling offside against themselves?

- bixll


as I was watching the play I knew Tampa was offside so I was wondering how long they could go without their goal getting called back.

I figured once the Leafs cleared their zone, then the "offside" was over.

I would think the same thing would apply if the Leafs scored
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Jan 18 @ 9:34 AM ET
as I was watching the play I knew Tampa was offside so I was wondering how long they could go without their goal getting called back.

I figured once the Leafs cleared their zone, then the "offside" was over.

I would think the same thing would apply if the Leafs scored

- Aetherial


Offside is not over, if it is not called. There would have been a play that was to be called back, does it matter where the players go, or how long. This is not a delayed offside, it is a missed call.

I'll add a couple faces for whatever reason...
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jan 18 @ 9:35 AM ET
It should be the spirit of offside, where it's clearly visible in real time to the linesman. If it takes slo mo replays to catch it, let it go. The marginal offsides will even out for both teams.
- Zezel


Here is what is so stupid about the play.

How many goals are scored on bogus penalty calls. How many penalties are not caught where goals should have been scored.

It is a (frank) of a lot more than goal scored when a play was a micro-second offside and it was so closet he lineman could not tell without slow mo and high def.

Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jan 18 @ 9:35 AM ET
Offside is not over, if it is not called. There would have been a play that was to be called back, does it matter where the players go, or how long. This is not a delayed offside, it is a missed call.
- bixll


You sure?
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Jan 18 @ 9:36 AM ET
You sure?
- Aetherial



Are you? How can something that has not been called, be over..
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jan 18 @ 9:40 AM ET
Are you? How can something that has not been called, be over..
- bixll


No, I am not.

So you are saying the play can just go back and forth, end to end, for 10 minutes... then Tampa scores... and they call it back.

Makes way more sense that, once the zone is cleared, the offside is irrelevant.

bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Jan 18 @ 9:41 AM ET
No, I am not.

So you are saying the play can just go back and forth, end to end, for 10 minutes... then Tampa scores... and they call it back.

Makes way more sense that, once the zone is cleared, the offside is irrelevant.

- Aetherial



But the offside was not called.... How can it be irrelevant. They called Matthews goal back after 93 seconds..

I am saying, it is not a simple answer. How can something that was not called, END when the zone is cleared.
plantheparade
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Hyman MVP
Joined: 07.04.2018

Jan 18 @ 9:41 AM ET
can some of the soyboy group on here inform me on the list of players that can be criticized, and the ones that cannot?

so far i understand:

Angels not to be criticized:
Nylander
?
?

Guys that are worst ever:

Gardiner
Zaitsev
Hainsey
??
??

thank you in advance
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Jan 18 @ 9:43 AM ET
can some of the soyboy group on here inform me on the list of players that can be criticized, and the ones that cannot?

so far i understand:

Angels not to be criticized:
Nylander
?
?

Guys that are worst ever:

Gardiner
Zaitsev
Hainsey
??
??

thank you in advance

- plantheparade



Max,

Just a question:

If you are not going to watch the games, how do you have such an opinion?
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jan 18 @ 9:43 AM ET
can some of the soyboy group on here inform me on the list of players that can be criticized, and the ones that cannot?

so far i understand:

Angels not to be criticized:
Nylander
?
?

Guys that are worst ever:

Gardiner
Zaitsev
Hainsey
??
??

thank you in advance

- plantheparade


Man, you are saying there are zero positives about Nylanders game right now and everyone disagrees with you.

Don’t be mad because people disagree with you. It’s a discussion site. Show a little maturity.
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jan 18 @ 9:45 AM ET
0 positives.
- plantheparade

You didn't like the haircut?
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jan 18 @ 9:45 AM ET
But the offside was not called.... How can it be irrelevant. They called Matthews goal back after 93 seconds..

I am saying, it is not a simple answer. How can something that was not called, END when the zone is cleared.

- bixll


I didn't see that Matthews play so I am not sure, but did the other team clear the zone?

I always imagined that the Leafs were offside entering the zone, and the other team (Colorado?) never cleared the zone before the Leafs scored?
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Jan 18 @ 9:46 AM ET
I didn't see that Matthews play so I am not sure, but did the other team clear the zone?

I always imagined that the Leafs were offside entering the zone, and the other team (Colorado?) never cleared the zone before the Leafs scored?

- Aetherial



It is a missed call, why would anyone clear the zone. The linesman does not have his arm up, he missed the call.
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Jan 18 @ 9:48 AM ET
Man, you are saying there are zero positives about Nylanders game right now and everyone disagrees with you.

Don’t be mad because people disagree with you. It’s a discussion site. Show a little maturity.

- Santo_44



If he really doesn't watch the games, he should before he types...drivel.
plantheparade
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Hyman MVP
Joined: 07.04.2018

Jan 18 @ 9:49 AM ET
Max,

Just a question:

If you are not going to watch the games, how do you have such an opinion?

- bixll


I have watched all games.

Nylander is not better than Johnsson / Brown or Lindholm this season.
He has to be.
Don't understand why people have so many difficulties recognizing that he has been really really subpar so far.
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jan 18 @ 9:50 AM ET
Here is what is so stupid about the play.

How many goals are scored on bogus penalty calls. How many penalties are not caught where goals should have been scored.

It is a (frank) of a lot more than goal scored when a play was a micro-second offside and it was so closet he lineman could not tell without slow mo and high def.

- Aetherial

Yep. And my whole life watching hockey, I never remember anyone complaining about missed offside calls. There was that one play where what's his face was way offside and scored that lead to all this. It was a solution in search of a problem.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jan 18 @ 9:51 AM ET
It is a missed call, why would anyone clear the zone. The linesman does not have his arm up, he missed the call.
- bixll

Yeah the only time it matters is if it’s in the finals and it’s way offside and the refs miss it....

But the chances of that happening are slim. Either take it out or make the punishment a 5 min major for being wrong.

It’ll stop coaches from trying to challenge the ones that are a microsecond offside.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jan 18 @ 9:51 AM ET
It is a missed call, why would anyone clear the zone. The linesman does not have his arm up, he missed the call.
- bixll


I am not sure how to make my question more clear.

I assert that the missed call isn't reviewable once the team clears the zone.

You brought up the Matthews play.

I asked if the other team cleared the zone after the missed off-side call.

Did the other team clear the zone?

zazzle
Joined: 01.19.2013

Jan 18 @ 9:51 AM ET
He has been back for roughly 5 weeks now? It seems people are willing to give him a free pass for the season.
- Aaron_85



basically he's done his training camp time.

should be no more excuses for his play moving forward.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jan 18 @ 9:52 AM ET
I have watched all games.

Nylander is not better than Johnsson / Brown or Lindholm this season.
He has to be.
Don't understand why people have so many difficulties recognizing that he has been really really subpar so far.

- plantheparade


Well keep being confused because the majority here disagrees with you.
zazzle
Joined: 01.19.2013

Jan 18 @ 9:53 AM ET
Leafs should have hired Poile when they had the chance
- TheMussel



he wasn't interested in the position at that time
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