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bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Jan 18 @ 8:05 AM ET
worth a shot
- burn



Matthews goal was called off after 43 seconds in the O zone, if they go down the other way and score before a whistle, can you call offside against yourself?
Hockey_Reverend
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.21.2012

Jan 18 @ 8:05 AM ET

- Arctic_AARDVARK


All hail the inanimate microphone thing!
Hockey_Reverend
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.21.2012

Jan 18 @ 8:07 AM ET
Matthews goal was called off after 43 seconds in the O zone, if they go down the other way and score before a whistle, can you call offside against yourself?
- bixll


All I know is that rule needs to be changed. Should only be reviewable if they go directly in and score. If the puck hits the boards or the other team touches it, make it non-reviewable. Maybe put a time limit on it as well, like 10 seconds.

bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Jan 18 @ 8:09 AM ET
All I know is that rule needs to be changed. Should only be reviewable if they go directly in and score. If the puck hits the boards or the other team touches it, make it non-reviewable. Maybe put a time limit on it as well, like 10 seconds.
- Hockey_Reverend



You see what I am asking
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jan 18 @ 8:09 AM ET
I have a question for all regarding this play.

If the Leafs went back up the ice and scored, could the Lightning have the goal reviewed by calling offside against themselves?

- bixll


I think if the puck goes back out then that offside play is dead and gone.

I could be wrong though
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jan 18 @ 8:11 AM ET
Matthews goal was called off after 43 seconds in the O zone, if they go down the other way and score before a whistle, can you call offside against yourself?
- bixll



I don't think so.

It's such a stupid rule. It was meant to catch blatant offside, not hairline infraction.

Tampa goes offside (how that was missed is beyond me) and the leafs get a weak penalty call against. So stupid.
Hockey_Reverend
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.21.2012

Jan 18 @ 8:13 AM ET
You see what I am asking
- bixll


Yes, and when the puck comes out of the zone its non-reviewable
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jan 18 @ 8:14 AM ET
I think if the puck goes back out then that offside play is dead and gone.

I could be wrong though

- senstroll



His point is that once they go offside the play should be dead. If they go offside (play should be over) and then the other team goes the other way and scores it shouldn't count because play should have ended on the offside at the other end
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Jan 18 @ 8:15 AM ET
All hail the inanimate microphone thing!

- Hockey_Reverend

in glass thing we trust
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jan 18 @ 8:17 AM ET
in glass thing we trust
- daeth



Tampa puts microphone inside playing surface. Tampa complains puck hit microphone thingy. Tampa stopped playing without a whistle. Tampa has no case.

daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Jan 18 @ 8:18 AM ET
Tampa puts microphone inside playing surface. Tampa complains puck hit microphone thingy. Tampa stopped playing without a whistle. Tampa has no case.
- burn

im guessing they didnt have access to the angle that showed where it really hit. that or they dont know the rules lol
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jan 18 @ 8:18 AM ET
His point is that once they go offside the play should be dead. If they go offside (play should be over) and then the other team goes the other way and scores it shouldn't count because play should have ended on the offside at the other end
- burn



so they miss the call, and the team thats offside doesnt score...the puck comes back out and then that offside is gone like it never existed. so you cant challenge it at any point again
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jan 18 @ 8:19 AM ET
im guessing they didnt have access to the angle that showed where it really hit. that or they dont know the rules lol
- daeth



Who doesn't know the rules? The rules were applied correctly on that play
Hockey_Reverend
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.21.2012

Jan 18 @ 8:19 AM ET
His point is that once they go offside the play should be dead. If they go offside (play should be over) and then the other team goes the other way and scores it shouldn't count because play should have ended on the offside at the other end
- burn


Maybe Tampa could ask for the whole game to be replayed at a later date because everything after that offside play shouldn't have happened?

NHL get rid of this rule!
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jan 18 @ 8:20 AM ET
It should be the spirit of offside, where it's clearly visible in real time to the linesman. If it takes slo mo replays to catch it, let it go. The marginal offsides will even out for both teams.
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Jan 18 @ 8:21 AM ET
Tampa puts microphone inside playing surface. Tampa complains puck hit microphone thingy. Tampa stopped playing without a whistle. Tampa has no case.
- burn

What the (frank) is it with Tampa and putting poop inside stadiums that are maybe "in or out of play"

No one knows what's fair or foul in Tropicana Field. Unlike any other stadium.
Hockey_Reverend
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.21.2012

Jan 18 @ 8:23 AM ET
Tampa puts microphone inside playing surface. Tampa complains puck hit microphone thingy. Tampa stopped playing without a whistle. Tampa has no case.
- burn


This I don't get. You can't put things on the inside of the boards or glass and not expect them to get hit at some point...??? I didn't even realize those microphones were located there. Any argument they have is null in my mind. It would be the same when the puck hits a stantion... play on!
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jan 18 @ 8:26 AM ET
so they miss the call, and the team thats offside doesnt score...the puck comes back out and then that offside is gone like it never existed. so you cant challenge it at any point again
- senstroll



no, offside is offside. Leaving the Zone that had offside on it doesn't negate the offside. That's the point.


If you go offside at 2:00 and then the puck exits the zone that doesn't mean that you didn't go offside. The play should have ended at 2:00, so if something that happened after 2:00 shouldn't count.

daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Jan 18 @ 8:27 AM ET
Who doesn't know the rules? The rules were applied correctly on that play
- burn

tampa since they were mad
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jan 18 @ 8:28 AM ET
It should be the spirit of offside, where it's clearly visible in real time to the linesman. If it takes slo mo replays to catch it, let it go. The marginal offsides will even out for both teams.
- Zezel



Yes
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jan 18 @ 8:29 AM ET
tampa since they were mad
- daeth



I guess. See lots of teams/players/coaches arguing and angry about calls but they are wrong and they know it, just trying to grasp at straws.
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Jan 18 @ 8:32 AM ET
no, offside is offside. Leaving the Zone that had offside on it doesn't negate the offside. That's the point.


If you go offside at 2:00 and then the puck exits the zone that doesn't mean that you didn't go offside. The play should have ended at 2:00, so if something that happened after 2:00 shouldn't count.

- burn


zazzle
Joined: 01.19.2013

Jan 18 @ 8:34 AM ET
good game by the Leafs last night.

I liked the way Kadri played.
plantheparade
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Hyman MVP
Joined: 07.04.2018

Jan 18 @ 8:35 AM ET
getting tired of the commentator who has been saying for 15+ games that 'nylander is getting better and better, he moves faster etc. - soon he'll get the point'.

there is literally NOTHING that has been positive about Willie's performance so far.
apologists should really stop pretending.
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Jan 18 @ 8:35 AM ET
getting tired of the commentator who has been saying for 15+ games that 'nylander is getting better and better, he moves faster etc. - soon he'll get the point'.

there is literally NOTHING that has been positive about Willie's performance so far.
apologists should really stop pretending.

- plantheparade

I thought he was good last night. I thought the whole team was good. Solid performance as a team.
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