LOL Yeah, I’ll get over it I guess hahaha

Upon further research, while I think Grant was serviceable, I realized it was Wilson that was the real difference-maker. They just happened to play together most of the time.

It would be awesome, no doubt.

I wouldnt want to give up a ton of assets in this situation either but at the end of the day, the assets they have are picks for the most part, I dont really care about any picks the next few years.
- MattStrat

To be clear, I was definitely thinking of sending Brassard AND those picks over to LA and then if Carter wanted we would send him back to LA and get one of our picks back. LA can then either audition Brass or more likely flip him elsewhere

What is the likelihood of CBJ trading Panarin for Brass?
- Thorny87

To be clear, I was definitely thinking of sending Brassard AND those picks over to LA and then if Carter wanted we would send him back to LA and get one of our picks back. LA can then either audition Brass or more likely flip him elsewhere
- WSCTeton17

I'm all for this. Sign me up.

Jenner would be nice but seems a little far fetched. I like Wennberg as well but not at $4.9M. If CBJ retains some salary then I like him as a possible 3C.
- willi

I think Jenner is far less far fetched than Wennberg. Jenner has always been a tad overrated and I think the CBJ organization knows that since he’s spent time in and out of the doghouse and they managed to keep his caphit pretty reasonable. The issue is that CBJ is a playoff team and are probably thinking in the same way we’re thinking. That is to say that they’d love to add a piece (whether it be Brassard or otherwise) but not at the expense of current roster players. Brassard is currently a buy low candidate that is risky. He could elevate in a change of scenery and go back to being himself, or this could just be who he is now. Trading a guy that you’re currently using as a 2 or 3 C for that kind of risk is monumentally stupid for a playoff team unles Jarmo really wants to get rid of Jenner’s long term cap hit and is piqued by Brass + as an instant center replacement plus some future assets.

I think Jenner is far less far fetched than Wennberg. Jenner has always been a tad overrated and I think the CBJ organization knows that since he’s spent time in and out of the doghouse and they managed to keep his caphit pretty reasonable. The issue is that CBJ is a playoff team and are probably thinking in the same way we’re thinking. That is to say that they’d love to add a piece (whether it be Brassard or otherwise) but not at the expense of current roster players. Brassard is currently a buy low candidate that is risky. He could elevate in a change of scenery and go back to being himself, or this could just be who he is now. Trading a guy that you’re currently using as a 2 or 3 C for that kind of risk is monumentally stupid for a playoff team unles Jarmo really wants to get rid of Jenner’s long term cap hit and is piqued by Brass + as an instant center replacement plus some future assets.
- Victoro311

I've been trying to wrap my head around what deals could happen with CBJ.

-There's the nightmare scenario and it's for Riley Nash.

-A draft pick/prospect so they can move either Jenner or Wenneberg to wing and then the Pens make a secondary move to get Brass' replacement.

That's honestly where I stopped. I just don't believe there's a deal there for Jenner. I also don't know that he's the solution for 3C. I'd be thrilled with Jenner as a wing.

I think Jenner is far less far fetched than Wennberg. Jenner has always been a tad overrated and I think the CBJ organization knows that since he’s spent time in and out of the doghouse and they managed to keep his caphit pretty reasonable. The issue is that CBJ is a playoff team and are probably thinking in the same way we’re thinking. That is to say that they’d love to add a piece (whether it be Brassard or otherwise) but not at the expense of current roster players. Brassard is currently a buy low candidate that is risky. He could elevate in a change of scenery and go back to being himself, or this could just be who he is now. Trading a guy that you’re currently using as a 2 or 3 C for that kind of risk is monumentally stupid for a playoff team unles Jarmo really wants to get rid of Jenner’s long term cap hit and is piqued by Brass + as an instant center replacement plus some future assets.
- Victoro311

They're also 1st in the division currently as is, so I don't see them wanting to shake up the 2C/3C for someone who's been playing pretty lackluster (production wise) even with an elite winger.

Not upset, just calling a bad trade a bad trade. Especially when I believe Anaheim has to be open to sell off bigger players with this 12 game losing streak.
- Guile

It's really not a bad trade. Grant was not an important piece to the puzzle and Blandisi is on a two-way contract so he's easier to send down.

Ah damn! the Pens missed out on both Del Zotto and Schenn...

Ah damn! the Pens missed out on both Del Zotto and Schenn...
- MattStrat

I actually like Del Zotto and if the Pens didn't have 1,556,239 LDs I'd say to grab him lol

I actually like Del Zotto and if the Pens didn't have 1,556,239 LDs I'd say to grab him lol
- Rinosaur

hahaha

I think he's been scratched the last 15 or 16 games...and I also think most of the Pens LD'ers are better, even if only marginally.

I think ANA is limping in right now. These moves are weak ways of sending messages.

With Schultz back, I'm sold on the defense. I see no reason to make a move there.

The top 6 is also set. No reason to do anything there either.

The problem is the bottom 6. Aston-Reese is a good 4th line winger. I am not sold on Cullen as an everyday player, especially late in the season/playoffs. Brassard sucks. We paid a pretty high price to get absolutely nothing out of him. Move him and salvage a 3C. If the deal is there for a depth 4th line guy, I'm fine with making that move as well.

I also thought maybe the Pens would be looking for a veteran backup goalie, but with DeSmith's extension, that is a moot point now.

What is the likelihood of CBJ trading Panarin for Brass? Panarin doesn't want to re sign and it looks like CBJ is Brass' first choice. They get a center and a cheaper contract to spend more on a winger at the deadline.
- Thorny87

I think this is extremely unlikely. Brass saying he’d rather sign with CBJ hurts both his trade value and his signing value. If Columbus is keen on bringing him back they’ll lowball us or just wait until free agency. With Bread and Bob not returning I don’t think they see this as “their window ending” as much as it is a side window opening

I've been trying to wrap my head around what deals could happen with CBJ.

-There's the nightmare scenario and it's for Riley Nash.

-A draft pick/prospect so they can move either Jenner or Wenneberg to wing and then the Pens make a secondary move to get Brass' replacement.

That's honestly where I stopped. I just don't believe there's a deal there for Jenner. I also don't know that he's the solution for 3C. I'd be thrilled with Jenner as a wing.
- Rinosaur

Yeah that’s what makes sense for CBJ and doesn’t really make sense for the Pens since Brassard isn’t getting a 1st back. I don’t really see it happening with CBJ, but then again I don’t really see it happening with anyone. Yohe has explicitly said Brassard will get dealt, so I know Brassard will be gone, but I just don’t think whatever deal happens will help us all that much.

I for one would love to see another move with Vegas if possible, they have a lot of high energy players/forwards and maybe we can convince them to move one for Brass. I have wanted him out since the summer when he essentially told everyone in Pitts that he didn't want to play 3C, and didn't appear happy in Pitts. So addition through subtraction at this point...would just like someone younger and hungry, that's my dream/goal for any trade.

I also wonder how much him leaving will help the locker room, he definitely has always appeared as an outsider, and maybe the team is just not interested in playing with him. Remember how Kessel complained with having to play with him last season?

I for one would love to see another move with Vegas if possible, they have a lot of high energy players/forwards and maybe we can convince them to move one for Brass. I have wanted him out since the summer when he essentially told everyone in Pitts that he didn't want to play 3C, and didn't appear happy in Pitts. So addition through subtraction at this point...would just like someone younger and hungry, that's my dream/goal for any trade.

I also wonder how much him leaving will help the locker room, he definitely has always appeared as an outsider, and maybe the team is just not interested in playing with him. Remember how Kessel complained with having to play with him last season?
- iworkatinitech

He did? I don't remember that.

He did? I don't remember that.
- Thorny87

Maybe I'm overstating it but if I remember correctly (possibly don't at this point) he was upset about not playing with Malkin, and Sully kept putting him on a line with Brass...and he kept blowing up and didn't that somewhat lead to the drama over the summer?

Maybe I'm overstating it but if I remember correctly (possibly don't at this point) he was upset about not playing with Malkin, and Sully kept putting him on a line with Brass...and he kept blowing up and didn't that somewhat lead to the drama over the summer?
- iworkatinitech

I think that was more about how injured Phil was.
I can see Phil starting to show some frustration in his body language right now though. Not sure how much of it has to do with Brass.

Maybe I'm overstating it but if I remember correctly (possibly don't at this point) he was upset about not playing with Malkin, and Sully kept putting him on a line with Brass...and he kept blowing up and didn't that somewhat lead to the drama over the summer?
- iworkatinitech

I think that was more anger over not playing with Malkin than him being dissatisfied of playing with Brassard. Seems Kessel wants to play with Malkin no matter what whereas Malkin is more lukewarm on that idea.

Brassard hasnt worked out, plain and simple. There is very little reason to believe that will change in between now and the playoffs. I agree with GMJR, move him and see what part you can get.

Andreas Athanasiou. Even if he's not at center. There contracts are a wash.

I for one would love to see another move with Vegas if possible, they have a lot of high energy players/forwards and maybe we can convince them to move one for Brass. I have wanted him out since the summer when he essentially told everyone in Pitts that he didn't want to play 3C, and didn't appear happy in Pitts. So addition through subtraction at this point...would just like someone younger and hungry, that's my dream/goal for any trade.

I also wonder how much him leaving will help the locker room, he definitely has always appeared as an outsider, and maybe the team is just not interested in playing with him. Remember how Kessel complained with having to play with him last season?
- iworkatinitech

Agree with this entirely. Ever since he made those comments about not wanting to play 3C I've wanted him gone. Ruth should have traded him in the summer before he damaged his value.

He played a handful of good games. Get's hurt. Then, the minute the season ends he complains about his role. Eff him. Honestly, when I watch him he looks like he's playing not to get hurt. Rarely goes in front of the net and bails out on board work.

I'd love to see us get a high energy 3C......somebody that will drive possession and maybe elevate his wingers. Instead we have this slug who needs the wings to carry him.

Yeah that’s what makes sense for CBJ and doesn’t really make sense for the Pens since Brassard isn’t getting a 1st back. I don’t really see it happening with CBJ, but then again I don’t really see it happening with anyone. Yohe has explicitly said Brassard will get dealt, so I know Brassard will be gone, but I just don’t think whatever deal happens will help us all that much.
- Victoro311

I really believe the Pens best option is to move him for a pick then move a JO-based package for a 3C.

Hornie flew to zona yesterday to be with the team. Might play in the next two games.

I like the idea of Jeff Carter as well. LA seem to want to be getting younger and quicker, they could shed his contract term and salary but they'd have to retain dough though I would imagine and would they do that for 3 seasons?....unless of course other pieces were involved. Then they get Brass who's UFA. Either resign or have more cap space in offseason.

Small part of me wanting Carter is just so a highly regarded, high draft pick ex Flyer, is in a Pens uni haha.
- MattStrat

I thought the ex Flyer taint would be a deterrent.