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MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jan 17 @ 9:03 AM ET
AMac
Voracek
JvR
Lehterible
Horseface

There's plenty

- dragonoffrost


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dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jan 17 @ 9:04 AM ET
If you're not playing Hart, you're not playing to win. I get there's back to backs so their is an exception.

Wasn't pretty but they got the job done. Halak was trash so that helped.

- Pelle31Forever


I'm amazed at how Halak has such striking streaks. He'll be lights out for a bunch of games and then becomes swiss cheese for a long spell also.
dragonoffrost
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Jan 17 @ 9:05 AM ET
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- MBFlyerfan

Sorry picked wrong post to quote...
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jan 17 @ 9:05 AM ET
Hard fought game last night. Hart was on fire again. When he fully develops, and the Flyers no longer have goalie issues, what will we have to complain about?
- jsh139


There will ALWAYS be a depth defenseman that someone will hate because they aren't good enough to be a top pair.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 17 @ 9:06 AM ET
There will ALWAYS be a depth defenseman that someone will hate because they aren't good enough to be a top pair.
- Glak18


But all that glue...

Honestly, I didn't have an issue with Brandon Manning as much as I had a problem with how the coach over-relied on him.

#PhiladelphiaFan
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jan 17 @ 9:08 AM ET
But all that glue...

Honestly, I didn't have an issue with Brandon Manning as much as I had a problem with how the coach over-relied on him.

#PhiladelphiaFan

- jmatchett383


I think that says more about the other defenseman than Manning or fill in another defensemans name.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 17 @ 9:12 AM ET
I think that says more about the other defenseman than Manning or fill in another defensemans name.
- Glak18


Absolutely.

Honestly, as much as it may not be reflected in the shot attempt differentials, I do think that you still do need players like that, or that there is at least a place for players like that. Granted, you'd like to have a strong enough roster to limit those minutes, and there hope is that you only have 1-2 players on the roster like that (a step we're taking).

But hell, Pittsburgh won 2 Cups with Tom Kuhnackl, and one of them was by playing Ron freakin Hainsey on their top pair. So yes, if you have a deep enough lineup, a coach who can implement a system that plays to his players' strengths, and a goalie playing at a high level consistently, you can win with a few "replacement level" players.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jan 17 @ 9:13 AM ET
Sorry picked wrong post to quote...
- dragonoffrost




Ahhh, lol.
dragonoffrost
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Jan 17 @ 9:14 AM ET
Ahhh, lol.
- MBFlyerfan


Needed caffiene
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Jan 17 @ 9:14 AM ET
I'm amazed at how Halak has such striking streaks. He'll be lights out for a bunch of games and then becomes swiss cheese for a long spell also.
- dragonoffrost


He had one of the best GAA in the league prior to last night's game. Actually him and Rask were top 5.
dragonoffrost
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Jan 17 @ 9:16 AM ET
He had one of the best GAA in the league prior to last night's game. Actually him and Rask were top 5.
- Pelle31Forever

save pct under .900 for the last 4 games and 3 or 4 goals in each
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 17 @ 9:16 AM ET
He had one of the best GAA in the league prior to last night's game. Actually him and Rask were top 5.
- Pelle31Forever


That's because they don't have Brandon Manning or Nick Schultz on their team.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jan 17 @ 9:17 AM ET
straws
- MBFlyerfan


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Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jan 17 @ 9:19 AM ET
Lehtera should never play another game for the Flyers.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jan 17 @ 9:20 AM ET
Absolutely.

Honestly, as much as it may not be reflected in the shot attempt differentials, I do think that you still do need players like that, or that there is at least a place for players like that. Granted, you'd like to have a strong enough roster to limit those minutes, and there hope is that you only have 1-2 players on the roster like that (a step we're taking).

But hell, Pittsburgh won 2 Cups with Tom Kuhnackl, and one of them was by playing Ron freakin Hainsey on their top pair. So yes, if you have a deep enough lineup, a coach who can implement a system that plays to his players' strengths, and a goalie playing at a high level consistently, you can win with a few "replacement level" players.

- jmatchett383


No question absolutely, but the best will always have to play like the best to balance out the others to help utilize them.

Even the best teams like the Nashvile's and Tampa's have their Mannings, MacDonalds and Folins...people just don't want to believe it though.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jan 17 @ 9:23 AM ET
Hart is the Flyer’s starter.

I have said since the summer, my unpopular opinion, I would like a Hart/Lyon tandem next season. If you need a little veteran security, you get one on a AHL/NHL deal and pair him with Sandstrom on the Phantoms.

Hart is about to get a nice break so I don’t think he is being overused. Lyon has been a bit...maybe a couple of conditioning stints by Elliott/Stolarz can spell him down the stretch. Maybe they waive Neuvy...if he is not picked up then he can backup Lyon.

I would have really liked Lyon to get more NHL games this season, but injuries happen and Hart earned the spot. I am not ready to give up on Lyon though.

- NC Flyers Fan

Absolutely not, Lyon should not be the backup to our 21 year old goaltender next year. I'd rather resign Elliot for a one year than do that.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jan 17 @ 9:25 AM ET
No question absolutely, but the best will always have to play like the best to balance out the others to help utilize them.

Even the best teams like the Nashvile's and Tampa's have their Mannings, MacDonalds and Folins...people just don't want to believe it though.

- Glak18


No team has six great dmen, but for a long time the Flyers have hurt themselves by using guys in top 4 when they are much better suited as a number 5, 6 or 7. Under Gordon the ice time for the dmen makes a lot more sense.

http://www.nhl.com/stats/...e,1&sort=timeOnIcePerGame

johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jan 17 @ 9:25 AM ET
Can we please be done with the Jori Lehtera experience?

Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jan 17 @ 9:26 AM ET
Absolutely not, Lyon should not be the backup to our 21 year old goaltender next year. I'd rather resign Elliot for a one year than do that.
- ClaudeFather


If you re-sign Elliott, it's likely he gets hurt at some point and Lyon comes up anyway.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jan 17 @ 9:28 AM ET
Can we please be done with the Jori Lehtera experience?
- johndewar


I saw a tweet that claimed Weise was waived and sat out of the past two games because he's getting traded. If that's the case then it's time to promote an AHL forward.
BOSS_TWEED
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: S. Jersey
Joined: 11.07.2006

Jan 17 @ 9:30 AM ET
Is it me or did Gordon's quote regarding Lindblom appear to call out Hak for stapling him to lower lines?
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jan 17 @ 9:30 AM ET
If you re-sign Elliott, it's likely he gets hurt at some point and Lyon comes up anyway.
- Feanor

Would still rather start with him then go straight to Lyon.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 17 @ 9:31 AM ET
No team has six great dmen, but for a long time the Flyers have hurt themselves by using guys in top 4 when they are much better suited as a number 5, 6 or 7. Under Gordon the ice time for the dmen makes a lot more sense.

http://www.nhl.com/stats/...e,1&sort=timeOnIcePerGame

- Feanor


"Well, he probably could have been different sooner if the coach had put him on a higher up line at the beginning. The way he is playing is the way I saw him playing in Lehigh. Whether he scored or didn’t score, you got the same game from him every night. Now he’s had a couple opportunities, hasn’t been able to score or he’s made some nice plays, the guys he has made the nice plays to hasn’t score, so it was nice for him to be able to get a goal and an assist," Gordon said.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 17 @ 9:31 AM ET
Would still rather start with him then go straight to Lyon.
- ClaudeFather


Depends. He'd have to take a 1-year deal and be okay with being a backup.
dragonoffrost
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Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
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Jan 17 @ 9:32 AM ET
Is it me or did Gordon's quote regarding Lindblom appear to call out Hak for stapling him to lower lines?
- BOSS_TWEED


That's probably a valid comment. And Hak is gone so quotes like that will occur
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