Virtanen was always contributing in other ways and he still isn’t consistent. The difference is he doesn’t have to score to be effective
- CanuckDon

Sorry, but no. Virtanen hardly showed up to his first 100 games. Saw less than 10 minutes and went games without throwing a hit

I lost a bet
- CanuckDon

I know, but hasn't the timeline on that run out?

I mean, so was Virtanen for the first 150 games of his career. Goldobin just passed 100 games and has a mix of some good games and awful ones. Most young players struggle to find consistency
- WhiteLie

Virtanen to me was inconsistent in playing style more so than whether he was defensively responsible. I dont remember watching virtanen and thinking he was an anchor to his line desfensively like i think goldy is. Virtanen seemed to either want to play smart hockey or he wanted to go out and hit everything he saw, regardless he moved his feet and made it back into the play. I just feel goldy is first forward out of the zone and last back. Misses man coverage. Takes lazy offensive zone penalties. He needs to be more responsible imo.

Sorry, but no. Virtanen hardly showed up to his first 100 games. Saw less than 10 minutes and went games without throwing a hit
- WhiteLie

He was generally driving play and was never a defensive liability. He sucked but way less than the floater sucks (every shift that he isn’t stapled to eP)

I know, but hasn't the timeline on that run out?
- NorthNuck

It has...but I only post on my phone so I haven’t. Been able to update

I heard a reporter ask him in a radio clip and he responded no, not playing tonight.
- hillbillydeluxe

Yeah but he hates the media so he's probably lying to them.

Virtanen to me was inconsistent in playing style more so than whether he was defensively responsible. I dont remember watching virtanen and thinking he was an anchor to his line desfensively like i think goldy is. Virtanen seemed to either want to play smart hockey or he wanted to go out and hit everything he saw, regardless he moved his feet and made it back into the play. I just feel goldy is first forward out of the zone and last back. Misses man coverage. Takes lazy offensive zone penalties. He needs to be more responsible imo.
- Codes1087

I'm definitely not disagreeing with the defensive criticisms of Goldobin, I just think its crazy to give up on a player with his offensive talents this early. Especially given the work Green put in to developing Virtanen, who was susceptible to being lazy/unengaged. I fully support him getting healthy scratched, benched, etc. as he needs to learn; but IMO he's capable of developing the necessary consistency

He was generally driving play and was never a defensive liability. He sucked but way less than the floater sucks (every shift that he isn’t stapled to eP)
- CanuckDon

I agree he was less of a liability on defense, but driving play is laughable. He might've been on the positive side of Corsi, but he was never really a threat offensively until this year. Even now he is still more complimentary than one that dictates the play

I agree he was less of a liability on defense, but driving play is laughable. He might've been on the positive side of Corsi, but he was never really a threat offensively until this year. Even now he is still more complimentary than one that dictates the play
- WhiteLie

Not sure why you are focusing on Virtanen. The discussion is around how (frank)ing terrible Goldobin is

Not sure why you are focusing on Virtanen. The discussion is around how (frank)ing terrible Goldobin is
- CanuckDon

I mean, its a pretty good example of fans having more patience with Vancouver-drafted prospects than acquired ones

I mean, its a pretty good example of fans having more patience with Vancouver-drafted prospects than acquired ones
- WhiteLie

I’d say that’s true for most fanbase


They get more emotionally invested in their own high draft picks and tend to overrate them


If Virtanen and Juolevi were picks of the Flames and Oilers, a decent portion of this fanbase would value them less as players/prospects

I mean, its a pretty good example of fans having more patience with Vancouver-drafted prospects than acquired ones
- WhiteLie

Nah. I hate sh!tty players equally. Hated subban Gaunce Palmu Goldobin etc

I’d say that’s true for most fanbase


They get more emotionally invested in their own high draft picks and tend to overrate them


If Virtanen and Juolevi were picks of the Flames and Oilers, a decent portion of this fanbase would value them less as players/prospects
- Nucker101

For sure, its funny how draft day has a lingering impact on the fans impression of their players

Tom Pyatt goal 1-0 Comets

For sure, its funny how draft day has a lingering impact on the fans impression of their players
- WhiteLie

Linden's look will haunt us for a long time.

You're a good poster but how many more chances does Goldobin need?

Linden's look will haunt us for a long time.

You're a good poster but how many more chances does Goldobin need?
- Marwood

Is Whitey Goblins billet ?

Is Whitey Goblins billet ?
- CanuckDon

Nucker is . He also is the billet of 7 other players in his one bedroom apartment

Dahlen makes it 2-0

Gaudette makes it 3-1

Dahlen with his second 4-2

Dahlen makes it 2-0

Gaudette makes it 3-1

Dahlen with his second 4-2
- VANTEL

Dahlen has to be better then Goldy
and if Goldy is so freakin good like some rave then we can get a good return in trade

Been watching Sens-Avs, is Chabot ever impressive.

Been watching Sens-Avs, is Chabot ever impressive.
- Reubenkincade

I have him on IR on the pool I did not know he was coming back tonight

Been watching Sens-Avs, is Chabot ever impressive.
- Reubenkincade

yep got a star in the making it seems, your location has been released

yep got a star in the making it seems, your location has been released
- onesmallleap

Waiting for the Canucks too dump Nikki and then that will be my new location...so probably future considerations.😉

I’m extremely racist against small, soft and gutless hockey players
- CanuckDon

The way the nhl is now.

Doug Hamilton is apparently available again for a top pairing right D he sure seems to be passed around alot