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hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Jan 17 @ 2:39 PM ET
He was tremendous tonight. Demko? Maybe Markstrom is actually the goalie of the future. At the very least he is a trade chip
- CanuckDon




He often keeps them in games.

The Oilers second goal by McDavid, pissed me off a bit, it looked like Tanev backed off too much and gave him too much room but I guess I can't really be upset, if Tanev stepped up McDavid goes around him or something.

First game I was at in awhile. McDavid is dangerous. good times.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jan 17 @ 2:39 PM ET
why does it have to be one or the other? If Horvat didn't limp, or get possibly injured, no one would have said a thing about the hit, cause to me it was clean, normal, within the rules, and was just a basic hockey hit. And I highly disagree with players always hit with the intention of causing pain/injury. Im not saying players hit without that, as i said earlier, cooke and wilson i believe hit to cause injury, but the vast majority of players who hit, within the rules, don't hit with any other intention that what you said above.
- Codes1087


I think there is a difference between hurt and injure. You can’t hit a guy and not hurt him, just like you can’t hammer a nail without hurting the nail. Trying to injure a guy is different, that’s the stuff you talked about in regards to the rules (late, from behind, in the head etc). IMO when one guy hits another guy he intends to inflict some pain, in order to make that player think twice about making that play again.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jan 17 @ 2:40 PM ET
Hurt is the wrong word. I will rephrase they aren’t looking to intentionally injure or maim the opposing player. Cooke and Others like him did. If Chara wanted to destroy a guys career he could.
- thundachunk


if we are being completely specific, then yes, players don't hit with the intention of it tickling. Body checks aren't going to feel good, but like you said, players don't hit other players with the intention of knocking them out of the game, at least I don't believe they do.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jan 17 @ 2:41 PM ET
I think there is a difference between hurt and injure. You can’t hit a guy and not hurt him, just like you can’t hammer a nail without hurting the nail. Trying to injure a guy is different, that’s the stuff you talked about in regards to the rules (late, from behind, in the head etc). IMO when one guy hits another guy he intends to inflict some pain, in order to make that player think twice about making that play again.
- 1970vintage


i agree. like chunky said, and my post just above this one, body checks shouldn't tickle. I don't believe any or many players in the league go out every shift with the sole purpose/intention of knocking guys out of the game or injuring them. I think they hit to cause pain, hit to send a message, hit to make them think twice about all you mentioned above, but not to send them out of the game or keep them from playing in their next game.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jan 17 @ 2:45 PM ET
Hurt is the wrong word. I will rephrase they aren’t looking to intentionally injure or maim the opposing player. Cooke and Others like him did. If Chara wanted to destroy a guys career he could.
- thundachunk


Yeah, that’s kinda what I just said on the next page.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jan 17 @ 2:46 PM ET
i agree. like chunky said, and my post just above this one, body checks shouldn't tickle. I don't believe any or many players in the league go out every shift with the sole purpose/intention of knocking guys out of the game or injuring them. I think they hit to cause pain, hit to send a message, hit to make them think twice about all you mentioned above, but not to send them out of the game or keep them from playing in their next game.
- Codes1087


VanHockeyGuy
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jan 17 @ 2:46 PM ET
Lol nobody in here gets over anything. 😂😂😂
- thundachunk


Heard Ferland asking price is a first +

That wouldn't go over well
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jan 17 @ 2:49 PM ET
Lol nobody in here gets over anything. 😂😂😂
- thundachunk


lol people get excited over the little things, but it eventually blows over until something new arises to complain about. I am not going to mention specifics, because it opens the floodgates to bullsh|t, but you know what I mean lol
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jan 17 @ 2:54 PM ET
If Ferkland ends up in VAN, the meltdown on what's going the other way will be E P I C
- VanHockeyGuy


well considering he's a pending UFA and this team has a 50-50 shot at best of making the playoffs, I could understand why unless the cost was reasonable and he was signed to a reasonable extension.


also, I don't really think there's been an "epic meltdown" in here for a long time over a Canuck transaction despite a lot of people here constantly predicting meltdowns
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jan 17 @ 2:55 PM ET
Heard Ferland asking price is a first +

That wouldn't go over well

- VanHockeyGuy


Any fan who doesn't lose their poop over a trade like that is a straight up idiot.
VanHockeyGuy
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jan 17 @ 2:57 PM ET
well considering he's a pending UFA and this team has a 50-50 shot at best of making the playoffs, I could understand why unless the cost was reasonable and he was signed to a reasonable extension.


also, I don't really think there's been an "epic meltdown" in here for a long time over a Canuck transaction despite a lot of people here constantly predicting meltdowns

- Nucker101


When there's numerous teams in on one player, you know the price is going to be high.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jan 17 @ 2:57 PM ET
well considering he's a pending UFA and this team has a 50-50 shot at best of making the playoffs, I could understand why unless the cost was reasonable and he was signed to a reasonable extension.


also, I don't really think there's been an "epic meltdown" in here for a long time over a Canuck transaction despite a lot of people here constantly predicting meltdowns

- Nucker101


^ this

The ferland acquisition, both in a trade or in free agency was discussed with little to no "meltdown" or freak out. Logistically, I don't think acquiring him makes sense, OR, signing him in free agency, but thats just my opinion.
Bettmanhatesus
Joined: 08.10.2016

Jan 17 @ 2:58 PM ET
I think we are ok on defence lol ....thanks for Andersson by the way 😀
- Redmile247

Who?
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jan 17 @ 2:58 PM ET



Benning is a genius

#FlatEarth #HollowMoon
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jan 17 @ 2:59 PM ET
Who?
- Bettmanhatesus


pick they used when we acquired Baertschi from them. I think
VanHockeyGuy
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jan 17 @ 3:00 PM ET
^ this

The ferland acquisition, both in a trade or in free agency was discussed with little to no "meltdown" or freak out. Logistically, I don't think acquiring him makes sense, OR, signing him in free agency, but thats just my opinion.

- Codes1087


Toughness, Grit. My opinion.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jan 17 @ 3:01 PM ET
Toughness, Grit. My opinion.
- VanHockeyGuy


i have nothing against ferland as a player, love the way he plays. You hate to form an opinion on someones longevity based off his injury/concussion history, but you really don't have a choice in factoring it in. I like Ferland, and can see him as an asset, but accounting for the fact that CAR is looking for a 1st plus a prospect, OR, Ferland has been rumored to be wanting Tom Wilson money, I personally just don't think hes worth it.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jan 17 @ 3:02 PM ET
pick they used when we acquired Baertschi from them. I think
- Codes1087


Yes

Andersson was drafted out of the CHL though. Our CHL scouts probably would’ve recommended drafting another Taylor Ellington over Andersson.
Carol Schram
Joined: 09.27.2013

Jan 17 @ 3:07 PM ET
Lots to sort through in the new blog today.

Thoughts on how the unexpected battle for playoff position added intensity to Wednesday's game, why Luke Schenn is a useful acquisition in the Michael Del Zotto trade, and how to read the Canucks' recall of Tanner Kero:

https://www.hockeybuzz.co...and-recall-Kero/194/97212
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jan 17 @ 3:07 PM ET
DP and EG are offensively handicapped defenseman who cater more towards being stay at home/defensive minded (debateable how good they at that even). Our team is so badly needing a PP quarterback (as seen by Edlers drop pass give-away last night). I just don't see the point tbh.
- Codes1087

DP was supposed to be an offensive Dman not a defensive one
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jan 17 @ 3:09 PM ET
Heard Ferland asking price is a first +

That wouldn't go over well

- VanHockeyGuy

Lol I doubt it. Does he play defence?
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jan 17 @ 3:09 PM ET
DP was supposed to be an offensive Dman not a defensive one
- NorthNuck


supposed to be and what he is are two different things though. We know so much about Nathan Bealiue (sp?). He is just like them. I just don't see the point personally.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jan 17 @ 3:11 PM ET
DP was supposed to be an offensive Dman not a defensive one
- NorthNuck


That’s the problem. Plus his skating isn’t even that good either. He’s an offensive dman who’s an average skater and doesn’t create many scoring chances.

He wouldn’t even be on the roster of a decent amount of teams.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jan 17 @ 3:38 PM ET
well considering he's a pending UFA and this team has a 50-50 shot at best of making the playoffs, I could understand why unless the cost was reasonable and he was signed to a reasonable extension.


also, I don't really think there's been an "epic meltdown" in here for a long time over a Canuck transaction despite a lot of people here constantly predicting meltdowns

- Nucker101


Only getting a 7th for MDZ with retained salary is total BS. Now the Canucks only have the ability to retain on one more transaction. Benning is an idiot, this team is a shambles.


Better?
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jan 17 @ 3:41 PM ET
Only getting a 7th for MDZ with retained salary is total BS. Now the Canucks only have the ability to retain on one more transaction. Benning is an idiot, this team is a shambles.


Better?

- 1970vintage

thank you


This will please the freakout fetish crew
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