If thats the case they should have played lwhtera and weise on the first line like i suggested earlier in the season. That succeeded in flying colours at annoying posters lol
If thats the case they should have played lwhtera and weise on the first line like i suggested earlier in the season. That succeeded in flying colours at annoying posters lol
We'd def be better off in the hughes race - xShoot4WarAmpsx
Best odds of getting the #1 pick are about 18.5% - not worth "racing" for
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Jan 16 @ 1:44 PM ET
Depends on the definition of a bust is. If the player is still young and playing in the NHL then the player isn't a bust, the persons expectations are. - Glak18
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Jan 16 @ 1:45 PM ET
I doubt Ghost will be off PP1 for long. I suspect the 5F PP formation is just Gordon and Knoblauch trying something, anything, different. - johndewar
Somewhere along the line, Ghost just stopped being a shooting threat. Guy has to get into the mentality of just ripping it when it's on his stick, shot-blockers be damned.
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Jan 16 @ 1:48 PM ET
Schooling is by far the smartest thing a player can do. Yea Becoming a pro is the main goal but all it takes is on hit to end your career. If the injury impacts your ability to work at all you are f'd your entire life. Whats a guy like him going to do if he gets crippled within the first year of his pro career? - xShoot4WarAmpsx
Use the ELC contract money to continue schooling....
Like I said the same options that are available staying in school are still there leaving to turn pro, vice versus is not.
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Jan 16 @ 1:48 PM ET
Somewhere along the line, Ghost just stopped being a shooting threat. Guy has to get into the mentality of just ripping it when it's on his stick, shot-blockers be damned. - Tomahawk
It’s hard to be a threat when you miss the net a lot.
Somewhere along the line, Ghost just stopped being a shooting threat. Guy has to get into the mentality of just ripping it when it's on his stick, shot-blockers be damned. - Tomahawk
It's definitely a mental and confidence issue. He seemed far more aggressive moving the puck up ice on the 2nd unit as if a weight had been lifted off of his shoulders. The young players with the exception of Sanheim are clearly feeling the pressure to produce and it's affecting their play.
I have to admit, looking at Boston’s record, I expected it to be better. The way NHL highlights Boston, you would think they would front runners for the Cup.
With this said, if we reach OT, that would be a victory in itself. I’m expecting a loss. I’m expecting to get scored on shorthanded by this new look five forward Power Play. It’s just fact that Marchand and Bergeron are dangerous shorthanded (No idea if either are playing tonight).
I don’t understand the mindset of Hakstol or Gordon. What good is Gostisbehere without top unit PP time? He has passing ability, vision and the best point shot on the team. Voracek is getting shots through but his shot isn’t very hard, he isn’t defensively responsible, nor does he have wheels like Ghost to catch up to a guy looking to create an offensive chance shorthanded.
Now, I know many of you are going to accuse me of pooping on Coots but I would argue that Giroux, Voracek, Ghost, JvR And Simmonds are masters at their draft on the PP. I think Couturier has the ability to make the second unit better. Coots just doesn’t play the slot as good as Hartnell or Schenn. I also don’t think having him on the left half wall is the answer.
I think the five man forward unit hurts us tonight. - SuperSchennBros
I believe the thinking with ghost on the second unit was to help them out and have his skills with the puck help create chances for the second unit.
Ghost hasn’t done much on the 1st PP when he’s been on it. I attribute that to it’s either G or Ghost with the puck and they both play the same side of the ice so pressure them and watch that unit struggle. Simmonds and to some extent Jake are prone to turnovers when pressed in tight.
Coots IMO should be high slot and help work the mid boards and get himself open for one timers.
Even having Nopa in the slot and able to work from behind the net would take pressure off of G and Ghost.
I would still rather have Ghost PP1.
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Jan 16 @ 1:55 PM ET
I believe the thinking with ghost on the second unit was to help them out and have his skills with the puck help create chances for the second unit.
Ghost hasn’t done much on the 1st PP when he’s been on it. I attribute that to it’s either G or Ghost with the puck and they both play the same side of the ice so pressure them and watch that unit struggle. Simmonds and to some extent Jake are prone to turnovers when pressed in tight.
Coots IMO should be high slot and help work the mid boards and get himself open for one timers.
Even having Nopa in the slot and able to work from behind the net would take pressure off of G and Ghost.
I would still rather have Ghost PP1. - bird_dog_pa
If this 5 forward PP unit sticks for a little, I honestly may prefer Patrick in Coots spot (Giroux’s usual spot for Powerplay). I prefer having a right hand shot on the left wall. Plus it may get Patrick going and give him some more confidence. This would also move Couts to the center position on unit 2.
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Jan 16 @ 2:00 PM ET
Somewhere along the line, Ghost just stopped being a shooting threat. Guy has to get into the mentality of just ripping it when it's on his stick, shot-blockers be damned. - Tomahawk
Best odds of getting the #1 pick are about 18.5% - not worth "racing" for - Scoob
I do not want the team to lose or intentionally lose but this is one of the dumbest reasons to "not tank". 18.5% is a hell of a lot better than whatever 5-6 spots up is (2.5%).
I do not want the team to lose or intentionally lose but this is one of the dumbest reasons to "not tank". 18.5% is a hell of a lot better than whatever 5-6 spots up is (2.5%). - ClaudeFather
It's like any lottery - the odds are against you winning. So in this case, there is an 81.5% chance that you are not going to get the #1 pick so why not use other methods at your disposal to improve your team? Seems like a better approach to me.
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Jan 16 @ 2:05 PM ET
If thats the case they should have played lwhtera and weise on the first line like i suggested earlier in the season. That succeeded in flying colours at annoying posters lol
We'd def be better off in the hughes race - xShoot4WarAmpsx
Missing the playoffs IS in the Hughes race, which the Flyers are and will be. Finishing dead last gives the best odds, but does not guarantee it. The most beneficial thing about tanking now is knowing the worst pick possible is 4th. Far as I am concerned #3 to #10 do nothing for the Flyers next year.
It's like any lottery - the odds are against you winning. So in this case, there is an 81.5% chance that you are not going to get the #1 pick so why not use other methods at your disposal to improve your team? Seems like a better approach to me. - Scoob
As stated I'm not in favor of tanking but the reasoning be would be the players playing well, gaining confidence, especially young guys. Not the lottery odds. 1 in 5 chance is a hell of a lot better than 1 in 50.
Missing the playoffs IS in the Hughes race, which the Flyers are and will be. Finishing dead last gives the best odds, but does not guarantee it. The most beneficial thing about tanking now is knowing the worst pick possible is 4th. Far as I am concerned #3 to #10 do nothing for the Flyers next year. - Glak18
It would be extremely beneficial to come in dead last, i don't see it happening though.
The lottery odds lol, potentially get a great player in Hughes or Kakko. Hughes might play next year. I don't see it happening because i do think we have a strong team that is just playing piss poor. I'd like to see NOpa, Ghost, and Provy see their seasons turn around as well as Carter Hart continue his strong play.
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Jan 16 @ 2:17 PM ET
The lottery odds lol, potentially get a great player in Hughes or Kakko. Hughes might play next year. I don't see it happening because i do think we have a strong team that is just playing piss poor. I'd like to see NOpa, Ghost, and Provy see their seasons turn around as well as Carter Hart continue his strong play. - ClaudeFather
Says it all...working awesome for Vancouver and Arizona eh.
2017-18
Record: Buffalo, Ottawa, Arizona
Actual: Buffalo, Carolina, Montreal
2016-17
Record: Colorado, Vancouver, Arizona
Actual: New Jersey, Philadelphia, Dallas
2015-16
Record: Toronto, Edmonton, Vancouver
Actual: Toronto, Winnipeg, Columbus
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It would be extremely beneficial to come in dead last, i don't see it happening though. - ClaudeFather
There are 11 points separating the bottom 16 teams and 6 points separating the bottom 10 teams. It would speak volumes about the team’s pride if they finished bottom 10.
If this 5 forward PP unit sticks for a little, I honestly may prefer Patrick in Coots spot (Giroux’s usual spot for Powerplay). I prefer having a right hand shot on the left wall. Plus it may get Patrick going and give him some more confidence. This would also move Couts to the center position on unit 2. - arichardson22
I agree but I think they want Couturier out to have a FO guy with an opposite shot from Giroux.