If your trading commodities you always want to find the market and timing that matches peak demand for your product. I think Edmonton is a possibility. But, I think the best potential for the best return on Stone, Duchene and Dzingle is to deal them directly into the teeth of their own Conference.

The teams to look at are the Bruins, Canadiens, Islanders and Sabres. The Penguins and Blue Jackets might also be buyers.

Willingness to trade directly into your own Conference increases demand and that is always good.
- spatso

WHat about Nashville for Duchene?

Johanson and Turris are good, but neither is a number 1 like Duchene. There's a history of Ottawa trading centers there. Would they be willing to pay up for him?

Ya, 37 hockey players play more than he does but ya, he must be garbage.

don't get me wrong, I'm not buying a ceci jersey if it's 75% off, but the guy is still an asset whether your able to listen or not.
- AlfieisKing

Who cares how many minutes he plays when he’s a train wreck 97.8% of the time he steps on the ice.....

I think it’s pretty telling that he plays that many minutes and Ottawa is on pace to be one of, if not THE worst possession team in the HISTORY OF THE NHL.

Ceci plays lots of minutes and is still in the NHL because he plays for a team with an incompetent GM and coach and a cheap owner.......not because he has any discernible hockey talent.

Who cares how many minutes he plays when he’s a train wreck 97.8% of the time he steps on the ice.....

I think it’s pretty telling that he plays that many minutes and Ottawa is on pace to be one of, if not THE worst possession team in the HISTORY OF THE NHL.

Ceci plays lots of minutes and is still in the NHL because he plays for a team with an incompetent GM and coach and a cheap owner.......not because he has any discernible hockey talent.
- sensarmy_11

And he's from ottawa, can't forget that.

And he's from ottawa, can't forget that.
- david22

Haha.....how could I forget the most important reason.

I wonder if there is another team who even keeps one plug because he’s a “good local boy”..........how many players like that has Ottawa had in the last 5 years alone, probably 6 or 7

Would love to have Dzingel as an Oiler. Shame your owner wouldn't accept any salary back to make such a trade work.

Would love to have Dzingel as an Oiler. Shame your owner wouldn't accept any salary back to make such a trade work.
- Wildschwein

What would you be willing oto offer?

Who cares how many minutes he plays when he’s a train wreck 97.8% of the time he steps on the ice.....

I think it’s pretty telling that he plays that many minutes and Ottawa is on pace to be one of, if not THE worst possession team in the HISTORY OF THE NHL.

Ceci plays lots of minutes and is still in the NHL because he plays for a team with an incompetent GM and coach and a cheap owner.......not because he has any discernible hockey talent.
- sensarmy_11

Out of the 2 -- the way Sens see Ceci and you see ceci --- I'm close to your view. That said, NHL GM's would still take them on his team gladly. There's a lot of players in the NHL that shouldn't be thrust into a top pairing role and never do; and they thrive as 2nd pairing guy that see's 3mins less per game. Ceci was that 3 years ago.

Out of the 2 -- the way Sens see Ceci and you see ceci --- I'm close to your view. That said, NHL GM's would still take them on his team gladly. There's a lot of players in the NHL that shouldn't be thrust into a top pairing role and never do; and they thrive as 2nd pairing guy that see's 3mins less per game. Ceci was that 3 years ago.
- AlfieisKing

Ceci was supposedly on the block last year and nobody bit.

I don’t think a competent GM would give more than a 4th or 5th rd pick for him.....if that.

He’s Jared Cowen bad

What is everyone talking about? The way I see it is Dzingle (proven 20-25 goal scorer) for Puljujarvi (struggler with upside) and a 1st. 1 proven top six for 2 unknowns. That is still a loss for Ottawa, but if Ottawa doesnt want to pay him then lets do it. While they are at it.....Duchene to Colorado for our 1st back and a prospect

What is everyone talking about? The way I see it is Dzingle (proven 20-25 goal scorer) for Puljujarvi (struggler with upside) and a 1st. 1 proven top six for 2 unknowns. That is still a loss for Ottawa, but if Ottawa doesnt want to pay him then lets do it. While they are at it.....Duchene to Colorado for our 1st back and a prospect
- KANADIAN

If you frame it in the absolute ideal light for Ottawa then sure, that's what you get. When you view it more objectively you see a proven middle-6 winger that's scoring at a higher level than his average and is a pending UFA for an unprotected 1st and a boom or bust prospect.

What would you be willing oto offer?
- david22

Puljujarvi, Manning (cause cap) and a conditional 2019 2nd (condition being Dzingel signs extension; 2nd becomes a 3rd if he does not).

Puljujarvi, Manning (cause cap) and a conditional 2019 2nd (condition being Dzingel signs extension; 2nd becomes a 3rd if he does not).
- Wildschwein

No chance Ottawa takes me on manning. The last thing they need is another plug #7 dman........want sens to take him switch that to a conditional 1st

No chance Ottawa takes me on manning. The last thing they need is another plug #7 dman........want sens to take him switch that to a conditional 1st
- sensarmy_11

What if I switched Manning with homeboy Spooner?

What if I switched Manning with homeboy Spooner?
- Wildschwein

I think the sens would prefer the pick over the uncertainty in pulijarvi.

Other teams will offer a 1st, can’t see them taking pulijarvi over that

I think the sens would prefer the pick over the uncertainty in pulijarvi.

Other teams will offer a 1st, can’t see them taking pulijarvi over that
- sensarmy_11

Fair enough.

Seriously ripping the oilers management team after the gong show in ottawa?? Colorado is loving the idea of jack hughes and are sens management still banned from uber?? Just write a blog that both of them suck rather than trying to makes sens management look good.

Seriously ripping the oilers management team after the gong show in ottawa?? Colorado is loving the idea of jack hughes and are sens management still banned from uber?? Just write a blog that both of them suck rather than trying to makes sens management look good.
- oil90

Ottawa's management is INFINITELY better than what you have in Edmonton. still one of the worst groups in the league, but WAAAAAAYYYYYYYY better than what the oil have

is our owner a cheap piece of poop, NO DOUBT......but I'd take Pierre Dorion 7 days a week and twice on Sunday over Chiarelli.

to put it into context, had Dorion traded Karlsson for ONLY Dylan DeMelo then he would be on the same level as Chiarelli..........a competent GM would have been able to get a couple of draft picks, a real good prospect, and a roster player for Hall....Chiarelli got an "ok" roster player.

thanks for coming out.

Ottawa's management is INFINITELY better than what you have in Edmonton. still one of the worst groups in the league, but WAAAAAAYYYYYYYY better than what the oil have

is our owner a cheap piece of poop, NO DOUBT......but I'd take Pierre Dorion 7 days a week and twice on Sunday over Chiarelli.

to put it into context, had Dorion traded Karlsson for ONLY Dylan DeMelo then he would be on the same level as Chiarelli..........a competent GM would have been able to get a couple of draft picks, a real good prospect, and a roster player for Hall....Chiarelli got an "ok" roster player.

thanks for coming out.
- sensarmy_11

No problem love me a hockey party. Where was the extra picks in the duchene deal? So extra picks for karlsson made the deal that much better. Have you seen what karlsson has done and is doing right now. Run and hide behind the owner excuse all you want but it wears thin really quick. Oilers had the same problem for many years. Low payrolls have proven sucfessfull in other sports, so there goes your theory. Bottom line both gms suck just dont understand the need to make one look better. Thanx for coming out..NEXT

No problem love me a hockey party. Where was the extra picks in the duchene deal? So extra picks for karlsson made the deal that much better. Have you seen what karlsson has done and is doing right now. Run and hide behind the owner excuse all you want but it wears thin really quick. Oilers had the same problem for many years. Low payrolls have proven sucfessfull in other sports, so there goes your theory. Bottom line both gms suck just dont understand the need to make one look better. Thanx for coming out..NEXT
- oil90

sure, and Ottawa got 2 good roster players, 2 really good prospects, and 1 potentially 2 1st rd picks for him. I also saw Taylor Hall win the Hart Trophy and you got an average 2nd pairing dman for him.

as for the Duchene deal, Ottawa got the best player in the deal.........and if he doesn't want to re-sign, they get whatever assets they trade him for. the ONLY way that's less of a disaster than basically every move Chiarelli has made is if Duchene walks for nothing.

To Edmonton:
- Dzingel
- Pit 3rd 2019
- Demelo

To Ottawa:
- Poolparty
- 1st 2019 (protected)
- Spooner

To Edmonton:
- Dzingel
- Pit 3rd 2019
- Demelo

To Ottawa:
- Poolparty
- 1st 2019 (protected)
- Spooner
- riceroni

ZERO chance they move Demelo. he's the 2nd best dman, and has really good chemistry with Chabot....and he's still young

To Edmonton:
- Dzingel
- Pit 3rd 2019
- Demelo

To Ottawa:
- Poolparty
- 1st 2019 (protected)
- Spooner
- riceroni

ZERO chance they move Demelo. he's the 2nd best dman, and has really good chemistry with Chabot....and he's still young

ZERO chance they move Demelo. he's the 2nd best dman, and has really good chemistry with Chabot....and he's still young
- sensarmy_11

I like demelo... but he's not untouchable and if that's what it takes to make EDM give up the 1st or make it a 1st in 2019 unprotected then you jump on that!

Gotta look at the long term picture for Ottawa... And, that's acquiring as many high picks (and taking D men in the draft) as possible

Unless Dzingle wants crazy amounts of money, I don't see why would would get rid of him. He's one of our forwards who has been quite consistent.

Ottawa has a good forward group. Where we are lacking is D and a top goalie.

Chabot is looking like he could be better than Karlsson, but beyond that, it's not great. Demelo is looking pretty good, same with Harpur when he gets pissed off. I wouldn't mind moving Ceci. We have a ton of young talent in the prospect pool.

As for goalies, Anderson is okay for now, give him a year or two and let him retire, until then I an getting excited for Gus's development, I think he could be the #1 guy for year.

same as last year, Ottawa has a better team than their record shows, we just need some minor changes, a new attitude and a GM who is aggressive when it comes to getting things done.

Unless Dzingle wants crazy amounts of money, I don't see why would would get rid of him. He's one of our forwards who has been quite consistent.

Ottawa has a good forward group. Where we are lacking is D and a top goalie.

Chabot is looking like he could be better than Karlsson, but beyond that, it's not great. Demelo is looking pretty good, same with Harpur when he gets pissed off. I wouldn't mind moving Ceci. We have a ton of young talent in the prospect pool.

As for goalies, Anderson is okay for now, give him a year or two and let him retire, until then I an getting excited for Gus's development, I think he could be the #1 guy for year.

same as last year, Ottawa has a better team than their record shows, we just need some minor changes, a new attitude and a GM who is aggressive when it comes to getting things done.
- Maverick1818

Everything I look at basically says they are where they should be.
The 2017 Season and playoffs is the outlier here not the past 2 seasons.

That said, why wouldnt the Sens just trade Dzingle, Stone, Duchense and Ceci (Anderson also if possible) for the best prospect/draft pick return they can. All of those players are going to be on the downward side of their production when the Sens are looking to trend up again.

forget the 1st they traded its gone, nothing can be done about it.

Being a Leafs fan, I saw what you can do when you blow it up. It doesnt take long to get very good pieces back in place.

Only issue is the wrong GM is in place and the owner is a POS