Scoob
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Location: love is love Joined: 06.29.2006
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Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: love is love Joined: 06.29.2006
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Went into my game it was 2-0, I came out and they won 7-4.
These idiots can’t do anything right - wcorvette
How'd your team do? |
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Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi. Joined: 02.04.2009
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Looking like JvR is finally recovered from his surgery. - wolfhounds
Heart transplant? |
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konalover711
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: PHX, AZ Joined: 10.20.2015
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Ultimately, it's up to the player. That's my point. - MJL
This is sooooooo true. Players making big $$$ should be able to self motivate.
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Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: love is love Joined: 06.29.2006
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I don’t want to trade Ghost and I know he was great for us 5V5 last year, but say this 5 forward PP unit gets it going and actually sticks. Does this decrease Ghost’s value / impact for our team? When you take him away from the PP does he become more expendable for a trade? Again, I don’t want to trade Ghost, just curious and having a lil discussion. - arichardson22
Not going to be an issue. A couple goals against on this pp setup and they'll go back to a more traditional mix. |
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nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: this space for rent, PA Joined: 09.19.2006
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Again, I'll ask you how many times do you need to get burnt but this type of response? You don't have a point here other than needing to be advesarial. What is so horrible about stating that a coach can take a player aside and talk to him about his game but ultimately the player has to respond? Tell me what's going to happen when JvR goes cold again, which will inevitably happen? Will the results of the talk have worn off? Is there an expiration date on them? Coaches always talk to players and coach players as individuals. It doesn't always have a positive effect. I'm sure Gordon has talked to a lot of player about a lot of things but we just came off of an 8 game losing streak. - MJL
I think his point is JVR was struggling and trying to do too much. Gordon sat down and went over his game with him and JVR took what was told to him onto the ice. that's something that has come under question to whether Hakstol communicated like that to his players. I don't know, I am not in the locker room to see how he coaches and my focus is not on the bench to see if Hakstol ever communicated to his players, all I can go by are the players comments that imply he didn't.
Things really haven't gotten better so I think its safe to say the majority of the issues fall on the players.
It was nice to see the game Patrick played. While the Flyers needed that, HE really needed that. I really hope he can build on that. when the wild pulled the goalie I was really hoping Patrick would get the hatty. |
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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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What would you point our PP struggles to? inviduals not executing? Not finishing chances? And I agree about Giroux in the new PP set up. I wasn’t a fan of him on that side and prefer his right hand shot on the left side/wall. - arichardson22
Lack of execution and resulting drain on confidence. Players such as Gostisbehere are hesitant and thinking about what they're going to do instead of reacting and playing.
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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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Why have coaches at all, why not just players? They clearly serve no purpose. - ClaudeFather
Badly missing the point.
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nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: this space for rent, PA Joined: 09.19.2006
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Not going to be an issue. A couple goals against on this pp setup and they'll go back to a more traditional mix. - Scoob
I have to say while it did produce a goal and it looked better, it scared me a bit. |
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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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I think his point is JVR was struggling and trying to do too much. Gordon sat down and went over his game with him and JVR took what was told to him onto the ice. that's something that has come under question to whether Hakstol communicated like that to his players. I don't know, I am not in the locker room to see how he coaches and my focus is not on the bench to see if Hakstol ever communicated to his players, all I can go by are the players comments that imply he didn't.
Things really haven't gotten better so I think its safe to say the majority of the issues fall on the players.
It was nice to see the game Patrick played. While the Flyers needed that, HE really needed that. I really hope he can build on that. when the wild pulled the goalie I was really hoping Patrick would get the hatty. - nastyflyergirl
Not sure why anyone thinks that I don't understand that Gordon had a talk with JvR. Pretty simple to understand. My point and focus is on what happens from that point on. I was also anticipating that this would eventually move towards criticizing Hakstol.
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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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Sometimes the player can't get out of his own way and the coach needs to help that along. - dragonoffrost
For sure but even after that talk, the player then needs to get out of his own way. |
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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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Nope, MJL said otherwise. Might as well have been signed, sealed, and delivered from God himself. 2019 Flyers will move on with no coach moving forward, they are no help. - ClaudeFather
You have no idea what I said.
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ClaudeFather
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Location: west haven, CT Joined: 08.14.2015
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Not sure why anyone thinks that I don't understand that Gordon had a talk with JvR. Pretty simple to understand. My point and focus is on what happens from that point on. I was also anticipating that this would eventually move towards criticizing Hakstol. - MJL
All we are saying is that they had a talk, Gordon made some good points, JVR applied it to his game and was productive. Doesn't mean he is going to be the best player every game. He was in a funk and got some help from his coach. Sometimes when a player is struggling it's tough to see the issue. Regarding Hak and JVR, don't think it's applicable, played two games, missed a bunch, then was trying to get back up to speed (probably still was when Gordon took over). |
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wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Boynton Beach, FL Joined: 10.03.2010
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How'd your team do? - Scoob
We lost and I broke my stick, hope that is not needed for the Flyers to win. |
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opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: The Implication Joined: 12.13.2011
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Go Flyers..
Watched what I could of the last period last night and seemed like an entertaining game which is all we can ask for.
They are not doing a anything this season so at least play an entertaining game.
Also, always surprises me how many hockey fans their appear to be out on West Coast. 7 people around me at work are on either official Blizzard Teams or local teams for both ice and inline. Kind of cool to see. |
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youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Newark, DE Joined: 07.07.2010
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I read the blog. I'll answer the questions myself. I'm a fan of the comments that Gordon makes and his thoughts on the game. It seems to me that he is a good communicator. Ultimately though and it's the same for every coach, the player has to perform on the ice. What ultimately made the difference is JvR's play on the ice. - MJL
What ultimately made the difference is the coach pointed out what the player was doing wrong and how to fix it, and the player listened because he knows and respects the coach, made the adjustments and its paying off. |
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youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Newark, DE Joined: 07.07.2010
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Ultimately, it's up to the player. That's my point. - MJL
Yes and no. You can lead a horse to water but you cant make him drink it... sure I'll agree to that. But if you dont lead the horse to water, the horse may never find the water and cant drink again... or maybe he might just wander around until he finds water.... In other words, even pro's need to be coached, and just like in real life sometimes it matters whos saying the words. |
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youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Newark, DE Joined: 07.07.2010
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Personally, I don't think other teams can figure out your PP to the point of being ineffective due to that.
As far as the new PP configuration, I'm not really a fan of it. First of all, Giroux is on the wrong side of the ice. His angle for both passing and shooting has been changed. Couturier on the other half wall is not a good distributor of the puck on the wall. It basically comes down to Voracek shooting from the top with a double screen. I'm going to keep an open mind though and see how it works. - MJL
Giroux can play any forward position. Lets not forget he was drafted as a right wing. Might it take a little time to adjust, maybe. |
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Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: love is love Joined: 06.29.2006
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I have to say while it did produce a goal and it looked better, it scared me a bit. - nastyflyergirl
It scares me a lot lol |
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Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA Joined: 06.26.2007
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So Jake made some defensive plays last night, so he must of stopped trying to do too much. Now if Coots can stop trying to do too much, he will be able to pick up his man in the slot. Weal just didn't work out here because he tried to do too much. |
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johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: South Jersey, NJ Joined: 01.16.2009
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It scares me a lot lol - Scoob
Does it scare you as much as Scott Laughton scares me?
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dragonoffrost
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Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ Joined: 10.12.2015
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I have to say while it did produce a goal and it looked better, it scared me a bit. - nastyflyergirl
It's heart medication time when that group is out there. You know the inevitable is going to occur with it soon. Jake or Coots turnover, no back check, short handed goal against. The question is how many times will it happen before the staff decides it's not worth it. |
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dragonoffrost
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Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ Joined: 10.12.2015
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Does it scare you as much as Scott Laughton scares me?
- johndewar
Psycho Killer
Qu'est-ce que c'est
Fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-far better
Run run run run run run run away oh oh |
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Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA Joined: 06.26.2007
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Does it scare you as much as Scott Laughton scares me?
- johndewar
Then he starts to talk and this happens...
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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Newark, DE Joined: 03.09.2010
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Then he starts to talk and this happens...
- Glak18
Mickey Mouse ain't nothin to (frank) wit
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