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Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jan 13 @ 8:27 PM ET
The Sabres need to hit on a draft pick that will contribute and be cheap for a few years.

This isn’t hard to understand.

Every team has guys like that. We don’t

It doesn’t have to be a 1st rounder but odds are much better.

Brayden Point
Arvidsson
Kyle Connor
DeBrusk
McAvoy

Who is our example of this?

- sbroads24


Well, except that guy we drafted this year, anyway.

Debrusk doesn't count, they had 3 bites at the apple, one was bound to be good.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jan 13 @ 8:28 PM ET
Then the sabres lie to us. That is what they said at the beginning of the year.
- sabresfan69


That's what every team says every year.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jan 13 @ 8:31 PM ET
Couturier has basically turned into Jonathon Toews 2.0


That guy in his prime was essentially not for sale.

- Sabresfan-365


Sure but the Blackhawks were also good when Toews was in his prime.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jan 13 @ 8:36 PM ET
Philly may have the best prospect pool in the NHL. Why is anyone talking about a total rebuild?
- Lunaion



I'd say 31st place might be a hint at rebuilding.

Remember when we had the top prospect pool?
4 years ago

Prospect rankings are not an exact science
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jan 13 @ 8:37 PM ET
https://www.nhl.com/news/tampa-bays-mikhail-sergachev-fined-for-cross-checking/c-303852774

Again, why wasn't this a 5-minute major and why did Larsson get a penalty for putting his hand on the guy's back?

The NHL should fine referees for bad calls

- BeadyEyedDouche


They do, they don't get playoff games. They're graded every game.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jan 13 @ 8:40 PM ET
Don't forget we know that this management in Ottawa traded a good player for less than they could've got from a divisional opponent so that he was out of the division.
- Wetbandit1



Um.....

Your guess is as good as anyone else guess when it comes to who else was available for trade.

This is not a factual post. More opinionated

Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jan 13 @ 8:50 PM ET
it's neither. just a circular argument about nothing
- Sabresfan-365


You just described life, mon frere.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jan 13 @ 8:51 PM ET
I'd say 31st place might be a hint at rebuilding.

Remember when we had the top prospect pool?
4 years ago

Prospect rankings are not an exact science

- Boss34


Even if all of that is true, their GM change made it very clear they aren't tearing down. They have a lot of talent just hitting, or close to the NHL.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jan 13 @ 8:51 PM ET
Um.....

Your guess is as good as anyone else guess when it comes to who else was available for trade.

This is not a factual post. More opinionated

- Boss34


Do you not remember when Ottawa traded Hoffman to San Jose and then San Jose turned around and got more than they paid to send him to Florida?
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jan 13 @ 8:58 PM ET
Even if all of that is true, their GM change made it very clear they aren't tearing down. They have a lot of talent just hitting, or close to the NHL.
- Lunaion



I seriously doubt the flyers move a 2c who's signed for a few more years at a cheap salary.

You think the GM could possibly be saying something the season ticket holders and fanbase want to hear?

Who wants to hear:

Prepare for suffering?


I like coot as a trade target from the Sabres perspective though. It takes 2 too tango
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jan 13 @ 9:01 PM ET
Do you not remember when Ottawa traded Hoffman to San Jose and then San Jose turned around and got more than they paid to send him to Florida?
- Wetbandit1



You bring up a good point.

But, I'm not sure you can %100 say "they got more"
Prospects are hard to judge value, it wasn't just picks moving around.

Well done though.


Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jan 13 @ 9:07 PM ET
You bring up a good point.

But, I'm not sure you can %100 say "they got more"
Prospects are hard to judge value, it wasn't just picks moving around.

Well done though.

- Boss34



No, you're absolutely right. I wasn't really talking about the prospects because they're mostly meh. San Jose ended up with the best picks and was able to rid themselves of Boedker. And either way, even if it was about the same value it still shows that Ottawa would rather deal players outside the division, and I'd rather have what San Jose got then what Ottawa got for Hoffman.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jan 13 @ 9:20 PM ET
Also, (frank) Tom Brady, (frank) Bill Belichick, and (frank) the city of Boston, (frank) the whole lot of them.
rmiethaner
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 10.04.2006

Jan 13 @ 9:39 PM ET
Also, (frank) Tom Brady, (frank) Bill Belichick, and (frank) the city of Boston, (frank) the whole lot of them.
- Wetbandit1



I want Brady to win every Super Bowl in every season that he plays in. I have taken emotion out of my sports and appreciate greatness. I want to see more of it.

Tom Brady has never played the Bills in a meaningful game.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jan 13 @ 10:04 PM ET
I want Brady to win every Super Bowl in every season that he plays in. I have taken emotion out of my sports and appreciate greatness. I want to see more of it.

Tom Brady has never played the Bills in a meaningful game.

- rmiethaner



Go away
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jan 13 @ 10:31 PM ET
I want Brady to win every Super Bowl in every season that he plays in. I have taken emotion out of my sports and appreciate greatness. I want to see more of it.

Tom Brady has never played the Bills in a meaningful game.

- rmiethaner




Maybe hit the mute. So what if they won the SB that year? Week 1 is a pretty meaningful game.

How big are their shoulder pads? Holy poop. It's like watching 70's games with how big they are. Half those hits would be penalties today, for sure Adams' TD would've been called back on an illegal crack-back block.

I appreciate the greatness. I can also hate his guts. I'm capable of holding two thoughts in my head at once, three is where it gets tricky. I felt the same way about Eric Lindros and feel that way about Sidney Crosby.
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Jan 13 @ 11:43 PM ET
I hope the Yotes get the 1st pick, they deserve it.
gordong
Location: NY
Joined: 02.06.2007

Jan 13 @ 11:52 PM ET
I hope the Yotes get the 1st pick, they deserve it.
- SABRES 89


I hope we do...we deserve it as well.
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Jan 14 @ 12:04 AM ET
I hope we do...we deserve it as well.

- gordong

That won't happen
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jan 14 @ 12:51 AM ET
Every team has misses yes, but we have 4 chances and only really 2 impact players away from being elite. So we only need to go 50%. There is also a chance we move a guy after he’s drafted if we get a coveted player in the 21-24 age range. There is nobody we can trade for imo this year using our first rounders that fit our time line. Even Duchene id wait till July 1st. I’d take my chances on an 18 year old I can have under locks for 10 years then a 25-28 year old player that might only have 2-3 sold years left. How much better would Columbus be rn if they just kept Couterier and Voracek instead of trading for Jeff Carter ? How much better would Toronto be if they didn’t trade for Kessel and selected Seguin and Hamilton ?
- Pegullaville


Ok...
but you’re discounting how Pitt won Cups with Kessel playing a huge role
And LA the same with Carter

Works both ways though
Difference is...
one way,
you KNOW you’re getting a great player
The other way,
you’re HOPING the guys you’d draft turn into them

We’re only 2 impact players away?
Ok
Then trade for 1 (using one 1st +)
Sign another (Duchene / Stone)
Now we’re “contenders”

And still have three 1sts left to draft & HOPEFULLY develop into difference makers as well
But if they don’t...
then we aren’t waiting around wasting 4 or 5 years of Jack & Dahlin
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jan 14 @ 12:58 AM ET
I’d bet hundreds of dollars that Doug Armstrong would suck Botts dry to get Thompson, his first rounder and 2nd rounder back for ROR.
- Pegullaville


WHAT?!?!

Come on dude
That’s insane
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jan 14 @ 2:12 AM ET
WHAT?!?!

Come on dude
That’s insane

- jdfitz77


If the 1st was unprotected I'd say he was right, but it's not.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jan 14 @ 5:26 AM ET
With Coots playing less games and minutes

When was Oreilly’s Selke nod?

- sbroads24



WHO CAN’T STOP TALKING ABOUT ROR?
Hmmmmm....
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Jan 14 @ 5:41 AM ET
with all due respect, Buffalo just doesn't really have the pieces needed to replace a guy like Couts in a trade imo.

Eichel and Dahlin are obviously untouchable which leaves guys like Reinhart, Mittelstadt, Risto, Guhle, Nylander, etc.

Flyers get an actual legit coach and guys like Myers, Frost, NAK, Rubstsov, Vorobyev, Ratcliffe, etc can step in; we're still in good shape going forward.

Farabee, Hagg, Voracek, Laughton, Raffl, 2019 2nd, 2020 3rd for Mittelstadt, Reinhart, Guhle, and Nylander
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Jan 14 @ 6:56 AM ET
with all due respect, Buffalo just doesn't really have the pieces needed to replace a guy like Couts in a trade imo.

Eichel and Dahlin are obviously untouchable which leaves guys like Reinhart, Mittelstadt, Risto, Guhle, Nylander, etc.

Flyers get an actual legit coach and guys like Myers, Frost, NAK, Rubstsov, Vorobyev, Ratcliffe, etc can step in; we're still in good shape going forward.

Farabee, Hagg, Voracek, Laughton, Raffl, 2019 2nd, 2020 3rd for Mittelstadt, Reinhart, Guhle, and Nylander

- Mordecai



Take a seat guy, re-evaluate your own proposal.
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