God forbid we add Couturier and only have 2 firsts in the next 2 years
- jcragcrumple

Reinhart, Mittelstadt, Lukkonen and the highest 1st rounder.

That's probably what it would take, and Im not even sure they'd listen to that.

didn't you want something like Thomas, Kyrou and a 1st?

at any rate, nylander doesn't equal domi.
- Sabresfan-365

I didn't like St. Louis as a trading partner. I wanted either Fabbri or Thomas with a 1st as part of a deal with them. My preferred trade always centered on Domi, about whom most people were saying things like "Girgensons has as many non empty net goals LOLOLOLOL."

EVERYBODY LAUGHED

Regardless, my trade requires Philly to take on no long term dead contracts. I suspect I could make up trades all day, though, and people will say "Philly would never accept that!" Until I come up with a trade and people will say "That's way too much to give up! Nice job, GMTM"

God forbid we add Couturier and only have 2 firsts in the next 2 years
- jcragcrumple

Yea cause the flyers are going to trade the one guy that’s probably untouchable on their roster. The flyers will move Voracek and Simmonds before Couts. I’d even move the 32 year old Giroux before I move Couts.

I didn't like St. Louis as a trading partner. I wanted either Fabbri or Thomas with a 1st as part of a deal with them. My preferred trade always centered on Domi, about whom most people were saying things like "Girgensons has as many non empty net goals LOLOLOLOL."

EVERYBODY LAUGHED

Regardless, my trade requires Philly to take on no long term dead contracts. I suspect I could make up trades all day, though, and people will say "Philly would never accept that!" Until I come up with a trade and people will say "That's way too much to give up! Nice job, GMTM"
- jcragcrumple

That's more or less my point though. They ask a lot of him and he delivers, at a discounted price. The price to acquire him will be murray esque.

I didn't like St. Louis as a trading partner. I wanted either Fabbri or Thomas with a 1st as part of a deal with them. My preferred trade always centered on Domi, about whom most people were saying things like "Girgensons has as many non empty net goals LOLOLOLOL."

EVERYBODY LAUGHED

Regardless, my trade requires Philly to take on no long term dead contracts. I suspect I could make up trades all day, though, and people will say "Philly would never accept that!" Until I come up with a trade and people will say "That's way too much to give up! Nice job, GMTM"
- jcragcrumple

It’s not that, it’s why on earth is Philly trading their young top center?

If anything it’s Voracek and Simmonds who get moved

It’s not that, it’s why on earth is Philly trading their young top center?

If anything it’s Voracek and Simmonds who get moved
- sbroads24

Giroux gets moved before Couts. We have a better chance of winning any of the three lotteries for the top 3 picks then we do of acquiring any of the guys posters on here think we can get with any of our first rounders. Couterier is the last guy that gets moved on that philly team unless you overpay big time by a gross amount.

It’s not that, it’s why on earth is Philly trading their young top center?

If anything it’s Voracek and Simmonds who get moved
- sbroads24

Coturier is having a down year by his standards but at his age/price they'll bet on him bouncing back rather than sell low i imagine.

Yea cause the flyers are going to trade the one guy that’s probably untouchable on their roster. The flyers will move Voracek and Simmonds before Couts. I’d even move the 32 year old Giroux before I move Couts.
- Pegullaville

This is the hilarious part of HB. Our 4 firsts are untouchable gold, until trade proposals involving them are brought up. At that point, the team accepting those precious 1sts would be crazy to accept such a low price

Everyone has a price. What do you think the price for Couturier is?
- jcragcrumple

Probably Mitts +

This is the hilarious part of HB. Our 4 firsts are untouchable gold, until trade proposals involving them are brought up. At that point, the team accepting those precious 1sts would be crazy to accept such a low price
- jcragcrumple

Again, why is Philly trading him?

These hypothetical trades work for guys like Duchene

Pats game is already a joke

I just don't understand why refs in sports help teams win when they're already dominating a game.

Such a joke.

This is the hilarious part of HB. Our 4 firsts are untouchable gold, until trade proposals involving them are brought up. At that point, the team accepting those precious 1sts would be crazy to accept such a low price
- jcragcrumple

This hilarious part of HB is that you think the flyers will trade Couts. Maybe if we gave them 4 1sts but in that case let’s offer sheet Matthews then.

Again, why is Philly trading him?

These hypothetical trades work for guys like Duchene
- sbroads24

We just traded a guy who is very similar to Couturier, under very similar circumstances

Instead of deflecting sadness and misery on to me, why don't you tell me why Botts doesn't deserve a pass for not making a move yet.

My point to him was, 2/3 of the league has been inactive. As far as I can recall, it takes two (2) teams at minimum to make a trade. Botts could be offering the farm and Kim, if nobody's down, there's not much he can do.
- Sabresfan-365

Do you really need more of a reason to go from 2nd in the NHL, to currently out of the playoffs and in 14th place in the NHL? Come on he sat and watched that entire lead in points evaporate... what message does that send to the fans, to the players to Skinner? We don't care if we make the playoffs?

Sony Michel’s lack of playoff experience is really showing today

We just traded a guy who is very similar to Couturier, under very similar circumstances
- jcragcrumple

except couturier scores more, makes less and is younger.

https://www.nhl.com/news/...ross-checking/c-303852774

Again, why wasn't this a 5-minute major and why did Larsson get a penalty for putting his hand on the guy's back?

The NHL should fine referees for bad calls

Do you really need more of a reason to go from 2nd in the NHL, to currently out of the playoffs and in 14th place in the NHL? Come on he sat and watched that entire lead in points evaporate... what message does that send to the fans, to the players to Skinner? We don't care if we make the playoffs?
- gordong

dude, we were 2nd in the nhl when 12 teams were tied for like 14th. it was november.

The flyers once won 13 in a row and finished 11th in the east. They were playing well above their capabilities, making a move based on 1/8th of the season never ends well.

except couturier scores more, makes less and is younger.
- Sabresfan-365

So why are they trading him exactly ?

People who think that Brady retiring is going to mean the Pats are done are clueless

So why are they trading him exactly ?
- Pegullaville

wasn't my pitch

All the reasons we traded ROR don't apply to couturier

We just traded a guy who is very similar to Couturier, under very similar circumstances
- jcragcrumple

Because our guy was a giant douche who wanted to go.

Not similar at all

except couturier scores more, makes less and is younger.
- Sabresfan-365

I think you need to pump the brakes on how good Couturier is. He has 1 season over 40 points. I know - it's 76 points. And he's on pace for a ROR-like 64 points this year. To say this guy is untouchable is ridiculous imo

I think you need to pump the brakes on how good Couturier is. He has 1 season over 40 points. I know - it's 76 points. And he's on pace for a ROR-like 64 points this year. To say this guy is untouchable is ridiculous imo
- jcragcrumple

Even strength points since 2016-17

O'Reilly-91 AAV 7.5 mil

Couturier-121 AAV 4.3 mil


And fwiw, Couturier has received tougher defensive assignments/zone starts than ROR.

I think you need to pump the brakes on how good Couturier is. He has 1 season over 40 points. I know - it's 76 points. And he's on pace for a ROR-like 64 points this year. To say this guy is untouchable is ridiculous imo
- jcragcrumple

He was a Selke finalist last year.