I wouldnt trade Johnnson for Muzzin. I dont love Muzzin enough.
- Archaic

The numbers suggest he’s good. Easily a number 3 d man.

I think you’d be crazy not to make that trade. If it was one for one. LA would laugh.

I disagree with you.

I think it would be very silly for the Leafs to waste the last time they have deadline cap space on standing pat.

There are plenty of options available. More than usual...it’s a big UFA year.

There’s really no excuse. They have a big advantage by not having to send salary back or having the other team retain.
- Santo_44

There are pieces available, yes, but what does it take to get them? You can't overpay just for the sake of making a trade.

They don't have to send salary back? How about Zaitsev?

Did Babcock change the PP units at all last night?
- markmark

I think so...

Fixed
- bixll

You love it!!!!

There are pieces available, yes, but what does it take to get them? You can't overpay just for the sake of making a trade.

They don't have to send salary back? How about Zaitsev?
- TrashPanda

It takes what it takes to get them every year....maybe even less due to it being a buyers market this year.

And nope. They have about 24 million in deadline cap space. The caps have 500k...yeah. They are using their advantage over their competitors.

Let's go outside the box.

Andy Greene (2mil retained) for Brown + 3rd

- 21peter

#TrashPandaforvp2020

It takes what it takes to get them every year....maybe even less due to it being a buyers market this year.

And nope. They have about 24 million in deadline cap space. The caps have 500k...yeah. They are using their advantage over their competitors.
- Santo_44

24 Million *this year*. As the trolls like to remind us, next year will be different. They can't trade for a huge contract, unless it's a rental.

#TrashPandaforvp2020
- .OHOH.

I accept, since I clearly have the skillz.

It takes what it takes to get them every year....maybe even less due to it being a buyers market this year.

And nope. They have about 24 million in deadline cap space. The caps have 500k...yeah. They are using their advantage over their competitors.
- Santo_44

Connor Brown for Darnell Nurse would be a good deal too, and it's likely to happen, because Chiarelli recently traded for 17 bottom pairing defensemen..

24 Million *this year*. As the trolls like to remind us, next year will be different. They can't trade for a huge contract, unless it's a rental.
- TrashPanda

they also need to keep some of that cap space for bonus $$ to be paid out if player make the grade. Say if Matthews make $2 mil in bonus $$. it needs to be applied to this year cap and not next season cap.

they also need to keep some of that cap space for bonus $$ to be paid out if player make the grade. Say if Matthews make $2 mil in bonus $$. it needs to be applied to this year cap and not next season cap.
- zazzle

Exactly - you can never spend to the cap. Plus they would like to retain some space for a possible future addition.

The numbers suggest he’s good. Easily a number 3 d man.

I think you’d be crazy not to make that trade. If it was one for one. LA would laugh.
- Santo_44

The Leafs need a RHD. If the Leafs acquire Muzzin where do you put Gardiner? 3rd pairing? Do you experiment Jake on the right side (ugh)?

Connor Brown for Darnell Nurse would be a good deal too, and it's likely to happen, because Chiarelli recently traded for 17 bottom pairing defensemen..
- PatC80

just for good measures, add Gardiner and Puljujärvi.

The Leafs need a RHD. If the Leafs acquire Muzzin where do you put Gardiner? 3rd pairing? Do you experiment Jake on the right side (ugh)?
- mjones242

In that case you put Dermott or Rielly on the RS. Then next year Muzzin slides into Jakes spot.

RHD is preferable but there aren’t many that are truly available.

just for good measures, add Gardiner and Puljujärvi.




- zazzle

Why Puljujarvi? Gotta be at least one forward on Edmonton that's better than him

24 Million *this year*. As the trolls like to remind us, next year will be different. They can't trade for a huge contract, unless it's a rental.
- TrashPanda

Muzzin is at 4 million....far from a big contract. He’s basically as good as Gardiner but will be 3 million cheaper next year.

Connor Brown for Darnell Nurse would be a good deal too, and it's likely to happen, because Chiarelli recently traded for 17 bottom pairing defensemen..
- PatC80

I don’t think EDM even thinks about that.

Brown is a role player and Nurse is a top 4

Who did they try?
- markmark

Matthews/Nylander on second unit
Kap with the first unit

The Leafs need a RHD. If the Leafs acquire Muzzin where do you put Gardiner? 3rd pairing? Do you experiment Jake on the right side (ugh)?
- mjones242

Not advocating for Muzzin, but Nurse is a LHD as well.. If you get a LHD, without trading Gardiner, you can still make it work on D.

We need to upgrade on Hainsey, Zaitsev, and Ozhi.. All three of them can't seem to make a decent first pass.

I don’t think EDM even thinks about that.

Brown is a role player and Nurse is a top 4
- Santo_44

Brown had success with McDavid in Erie.. That has to account for something

In that case you put Dermott or Rielly on the RS. Then next year Muzzin slides into Jakes spot.

RHD is preferable but there aren’t many that are truly available.
- Santo_44

I don't think it makes sense to have Jake playing on the 3rd pair this year.

How do we know RHD aren't available? e.g. Any one of Faulk/Pesce/Hamilton could potentially be moved.

Matthews/Nylander on second unit
Kap with the first unit
- Archaic

. . . just to add to that. They had 1 power play, and each of PP1 and PP2 had about 40 seconds, before the last 40 seconds saw Matthews out with PP1 again. The first 80 seconds were uneventful and disorganized.

Not advocating for Muzzin, but Nurse is a LHD as well.. If you get a LHD, without trading Gardiner, you can still make it work on D.

We need to upgrade on Hainsey, Zaitsev, and Ozhi.. All three of them can't seem to make a decent first pass.
- PatC80

Only 6 more years of Z.
So thats good right?

I don't think it makes sense to have Jake playing on the 3rd pair this year.

How do we know RHD aren't available? e.g. Any one of Faulk/Pesce/Hamilton could potentially be moved.
- mjones242

He doesn’t need to. Dermott could slide over or Rielly.

And sure they could be. They likely will cost more however.

Probably can’t get away without giving up Kapanen.