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youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jan 10 @ 10:25 AM ET
This is possibly the worst idea ever posted on this site full of horrible ideas (many of which I have contributed).
- jmatchett383


I wouldn't have injured players call it a season, but if I was a trainer or coach if anyone was playing below 80% I would ask them sit until completely healthy.
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jan 10 @ 10:25 AM ET
I think this is actually a great situation for Hart now.

1. The moron fans finally realize he's not "the savior" so there's no pressure coming from the stands

2. He gets to learn the NHL game with no pressure

3. When they lose it's 99% likely that it won't be his fault so he can just go out there and hone his skills

- Scoob


Agree and honestly hes had 1 bad game 1 meh game and everything else has been good to great. A 2-15-3 record wont phase the kid imo. Hes that strong mentally. Just fight every night.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jan 10 @ 10:26 AM ET
Provy is the only guy I think is playing truly injured. His injury at this point if it's still nagging him should be treated with surgery. However I think he and the flyers are both trying to avoid it. It's a contract year for him. He wants to earn that big contract.

To other stuff. I do think we need to "see what we have" in a few guys. But I'm not pushing for waiving and trading 12 guys and making a new ahl roster in the NHL. Like to see nak and ghoul spell weise or weal in some these games. Maybe mich in at 4c for a bit. Bunnaman maybe a late season recall. Dont want anyone from defense up here quite honestly.

- Tfaehner

None of you know who is hurt, nor the extent of any injury, if there is one!!
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jan 10 @ 10:28 AM ET
Had an awful dream. Flyers lost 12-6 to Ottawa. Giroux had 6 points was a +3

Fletcher went and traded Ghost and Simmonds after the game return is unknown but there was some prospect named Banana and acquired Shea Weber in a separate deal. Cant recall any more information

- xShoot4WarAmpsx


seek help. soon.
StepfordSam
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.06.2017

Jan 10 @ 10:28 AM ET
Meh, not a fan.

So which players on the Flyers can you tell are actually injured? Please tell me, as I'm not privy to their physical exams. Or are you just basing this on who you think is injured? Also, if they're not on IR, which they clearly aren't since they've been playing, how do you intend to create roster space for their call-up replacements?

- jmatchett383


I’m just speculating. The only one off the top of my head is Provorov possibly still dealing with issues from playing with one arm late last season.

I question certain player’s abilities to make a distinction between hurt/injury.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jan 10 @ 10:30 AM ET
Sure, let's let a bunch of kids play their first NHL games in this mess and use that as a tool to evaluate them.

Makes sense.

- jmatchett383


They already did that with a kid named Carter Hart, who is younger and less experienced that other prospects they could promote from the AHL. Are you seeing any signs that playing on a bad team is ruining him?
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jan 10 @ 10:32 AM ET
Yup.
When I had DirecTV the NHLTV was included when I bought Center Ice so I could watch every game in HD. When I switched to Comcast had I known that Center Ice wouldn't be delivered in HD I wouldn't have bought it.

- Scoob

Haha talk about a dropoff. 55 inch TV with standard Definition is not enjoyable.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 10 @ 10:32 AM ET
They already did that with a kid named Carter Hart, who is younger and less experienced that other prospects they could promote from the AHL. Are you seeing any signs that playing on a bad team is ruining him?
- Feanor


No, but I also think that Carter Hart, from reports I've read, is one of the most mentally mature 20-year-old this organization has ever seen. He also has NHL starter talent to go along with that.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jan 10 @ 10:33 AM ET
Provy is the only guy I think is playing truly injured. His injury at this point if it's still nagging him should be treated with surgery.
- Tfaehner


What is his injury and what surgery should he have to correct it?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 10 @ 10:34 AM ET
I’m just speculating. The only one off the top of my head is Provorov possibly still dealing with issues from playing with one arm late last season.

I question certain player’s abilities to make a distinction between hurt/injury.

- StepfordSam


Again, if it's just one player, then yeah, you could do something like waive Folin and call up Myers/Friedman. But you made it sound like you wanted to sit anyone not playing at 100% healthy and call up AHL players to replace them, which is just not feasible.

And I still say Seinfeld is the most overrated TV show in history.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 10 @ 10:34 AM ET
I wouldn't have injured players call it a season, but if I was a trainer or coach if anyone was playing below 80% I would ask them sit until completely healthy.
- youarewrong


Are you familiar with roster limits?
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jan 10 @ 10:36 AM ET
No, but I also think that Carter Hart, from reports I've read, is one of the most mentally mature 20-year-old this organization has ever seen. He also has NHL starter talent to go along with that.
- jmatchett383


Phil Myers is almost 22 and has first round talent, even though he went undrafted. I'm going to go out on a limb and say he could handle playing on the Flyers third pairing without having a nervous breakdown.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jan 10 @ 10:37 AM ET
What is his injury and what surgery should he have to correct it?
- Feanor

Lol nice douchey comment, I almost hope he's hurt. Not a great sign if this is mental.
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jan 10 @ 10:37 AM ET
Are you familiar with roster limits?
- jmatchett383


I am. Are you familiar with LTIR?
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jan 10 @ 10:37 AM ET
Haha talk about a dropoff. 55 inch TV with standard Definition is not enjoyable.
- ClaudeFather


word
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jan 10 @ 10:38 AM ET
Phil Myers is almost 22 and has first round talent, even though he went undrafted. I'm going to go out on a limb and say he could handle playing on the Flyers third pairing without having a nervous breakdown.
- Feanor

There is no reason Myers at this point shouldn't be called up.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jan 10 @ 10:38 AM ET
25 James van Riemsdyk- 44 Phil Varone - 22 Dale Weise

He, like most, has been part of the problem not that he can't be better but my goodness, think he regrets signing here

- nastyflyergirl


It's not a mistake he keeps falling down the lineup.
aightwebang17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Typical Montreal, PA
Joined: 07.10.2008

Jan 10 @ 10:39 AM ET
There is no reason Myers at this point shouldn't be called up.
- ClaudeFather

ever hear of a stealth tank?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 10 @ 10:39 AM ET
Phil Myers is almost 22 and has first round talent, even though he went undrafted. I'm going to go out on a limb and say he could handle playing on the Flyers third pairing without having a nervous breakdown.
- Feanor


Yes, he probably could as well. Again, he's arguably the organization's top AHL prospect. But I don't think I'd just start throwing guys willy-nilly into the lineup, either.
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jan 10 @ 10:39 AM ET
There is no reason Myers at this point shouldn't be called up.
- ClaudeFather


I will wait for the TDL before I make any call-ups not based out of injury necessity.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jan 10 @ 10:40 AM ET
ever hear of a stealth tank?
- aightwebang17


It was a stealth tank going into the season with Elliot and Neuvirth as the goaltenders.

Now, this is a regular tank.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 10 @ 10:40 AM ET
I am. Are you familiar with LTIR?
- youarewrong


Well, first of all, this team doesn't need to put anyone on LTIR, IR is fine. But in order to be placed on IR, they need to have a medical exam by a competent doctor who has to deem them unfit to play. I don't think (think, not know) any of them currently fit that criteria.
StepfordSam
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.06.2017

Jan 10 @ 10:40 AM ET
Again, if it's just one player, then yeah, you could do something like waive Folin and call up Myers/Friedman. But you made it sound like you wanted to sit anyone not playing at 100% healthy and call up AHL players to replace them, which is just not feasible.

And I still say Seinfeld is the most overrated TV show in history.

- jmatchett383


I’m not advocating a wholesale changeover to an AHL roster. Just certain players that will play no matter what, as we’ve seen in the past.

And yes, I am advocating for a soft tank. We all know a Provorov at 75% is better than whoever would replace him, and that is partly the reason him among other players keep playing as long as they aren’t mathematically eliminated.

I think that philosophy can be put out to pasture this season.

Also it’s fine if you personally don’t like Seinfeld but it’s false to say it’s the most overrated tv series in history. The fact that it is still embedded in our social lexicon is evidence of this.

An overrated show is something like Big Bang Theory. Might be in the running for all time.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jan 10 @ 10:40 AM ET
Gordon likes to be clever with his lineups in practice and warmup. In reality, JVR is getting the5th most ice time for forwards since Gordon took over. And has the 3rd most points.

http://www.nhl.com/stats/...e,1&sort=timeOnIcePerGame
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 10 @ 10:41 AM ET
I am. Are you familiar with LTIR?
- youarewrong


I think you need to familiarize with what it is.
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