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1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jan 9 @ 12:43 PM ET
I thought Vintsy has been real lacklustre lately. Needs to step up his game.
- manvanfan


It's hard to be negative when guys are actually playing pretty well. I kinda like Beags, and I'd like to see Suttsey on his wing to form a super shut down 3rd line. Like Molhotra/Torres.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jan 9 @ 12:45 PM ET
Leaf's lunch they are discussing Matthews next contract. They are talking about Matthews getting the same 16.67% cap as McDavid got. Which at $84 million is 13.9 AAV.

McDavid is at 12.5 AAV.

There's no way Matthews should get the same cap % as McDavid.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jan 9 @ 12:45 PM ET
It wasn't the 14, it was the 1.

Personally, I don't believe there is such a thing as "running up the score" you can't ask would be professional athletes to take it easy. You drill into them to play hard for the full 60+ minutes, to challenge in all three zones, to win every battle. If you don't like getting beat 14-0 then play better, or go home and cry...

- 1970vintage

Finland won the tourney because they were the best team. They also scored 1 fewer goal than Canada in 2 more games. My personal opinion is that if you are the best team you will win, whether you put up 4 or 14 against the weakest team.

It's really not worth retreading, the tournament is over anyways
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jan 9 @ 12:46 PM ET
I only objectively hate JB when he does something stupid. I guess I can't really hate him for disagreeing with how he envisions a rebuild, but if he makes the same mistake he did with LE, but with a 35 year old Pavelski, I would probably hate him more than I did when he signed LE.
- Codes1087

I don't think Pavelski is getting a 6 year contract.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jan 9 @ 12:46 PM ET
Leaf's lunch they are discussing Matthews next contract. They are talking about Matthews getting the same 16.67% cap as McDavid got. Which at $84 million is 13.9 AAV.

McDavid is at 12.5 AAV.

There's no way Matthews should get the same cap % as McDavid.

- manvanfan


meh, who cares about the leafs.

In a perfect world, Matthews would make 15 million AAV and destroy the leafs cap management for the next 8 years.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jan 9 @ 12:46 PM ET
I don't think Pavelski is getting a 6 year contract.
- manvanfan


I never would have thought LE or Lucic would have either.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jan 9 @ 12:46 PM ET
It's hard to be negative when guys are actually playing pretty well. I kinda like Beags, and I'd like to see Suttsey on his wing to form a super shut down 3rd line. Like Molhotra/Torres.
- 1970vintage

I would like Beagle more if he was making half the salary that he is
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jan 9 @ 12:47 PM ET
It's hard to be negative when guys are actually playing pretty well. I kinda like Beags, and I'd like to see Suttsey on his wing to form a super shut down 3rd line. Like Molhotra/Torres.
- 1970vintage

That would be an expensive shutdown line for 12 minutes a game.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jan 9 @ 12:48 PM ET
I never would have thought LE or Lucic would have either.
- Codes1087

They all did because it was normal back then. Now it's 4 year deals for 30 year olds
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jan 9 @ 12:48 PM ET
Leaf's lunch they are discussing Matthews next contract. They are talking about Matthews getting the same 16.67% cap as McDavid got. Which at $84 million is 13.9 AAV.

McDavid is at 12.5 AAV.

There's no way Matthews should get the same cap % as McDavid.

- manvanfan

But on the other hand, should we really complain about the Leafs overpaying their players?
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jan 9 @ 12:49 PM ET
But on the other hand, should we really complain about the Leafs overpaying their players?
- NorthNuck

If they want to screw themselves go ahead.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jan 9 @ 12:53 PM ET
That would be an expensive shutdown line for 12 minutes a game.
- manvanfan


Lots of cap space, it isn't a problem
Lindenis#1
Vancouver Canucks
Location: he's (frank)in unstable so mrs dt is freaking out, AB
Joined: 07.22.2007

Jan 9 @ 12:56 PM ET
Leaf's lunch they are discussing Matthews next contract. They are talking about Matthews getting the same 16.67% cap as McDavid got. Which at $84 million is 13.9 AAV.

McDavid is at 12.5 AAV.

There's no way Matthews should get the same cap % as McDavid.

- manvanfan


Players will get what the market dictates.

McDavid took a discount at 12.5. I could easily see Matthews pushing for the same/more if he isn't interested in taking that same discount.

Star players are going after their money now instead of leaving it on the table for teams to turn a 4 million dollar player into a 6 million one.

If EP holds to his current level and his production grows similar to other young centers as his ELC expires he'll have an easy argument for 11-12 million if not more.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jan 9 @ 12:59 PM ET
Players will get what the market dictates.

McDavid took a discount at 12.5. I could easily see Matthews pushing for the same/more if he isn't interested in taking that same discount.

Star players are going after their money now instead of leaving it on the table for teams to turn a 4 million dollar player into a 6 million one.

If EP holds to his current level and his production grows similar to other young centers as his ELC expires he'll have an easy argument for 11-12 million if not more.

- Lindenis#1


If Beagleis worth 3, Sutter 4 then Petey is easily worth 12.
Lindenis#1
Vancouver Canucks
Location: he's (frank)in unstable so mrs dt is freaking out, AB
Joined: 07.22.2007

Jan 9 @ 1:03 PM ET
If Beagleis worth 3, Sutter 4 then Petey is easily worth 12.
- 1970vintage


Eichel signed for 10m which gave him 13.3% of the cap coming off a 23-34-57 for .93 PPG season. When pen went to paper he had 113points in 142 games for a .8 PPG.

If we are looking at an 87 million dollar cap you're looking at like... 12.2 ish and Petey's gonna have a way stronger case, if he holds his production and grows, than Eichel did to get even more.

I wouldn't be surprised in the least if Petey's a 14 million dollar player out of his ELC.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jan 9 @ 1:21 PM ET
Northy is young...he will learn
- CanuckDon

I think he’s pretty much got you pegged, and not in the way you most like it
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jan 9 @ 1:22 PM ET
I think he’s pretty much got you pegged, and not in the way you most like it
- neem55

Don’t you have a protest to attend?
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jan 9 @ 1:23 PM ET
If corsi for % is meant to be a measure of a teams posession of the puck, and it is measured by tracking shots (attempts and blocked) for and against, and shooting the puck is essentially giving up posession of the puck, is it a useless stat?
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jan 9 @ 1:45 PM ET
I think he’s pretty much got you pegged, and not in the way you most like it
- neem55

NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jan 9 @ 1:50 PM ET
If corsi for % is meant to be a measure of a teams posession of the puck, and it is measured by tracking shots (attempts and blocked) for and against, and shooting the puck is essentially giving up posession of the puck, is it a useless stat?
- 1970vintage

Lindenis#1
Vancouver Canucks
Location: he's (frank)in unstable so mrs dt is freaking out, AB
Joined: 07.22.2007

Jan 9 @ 1:56 PM ET
If corsi for % is meant to be a measure of a teams posession of the puck, and it is measured by tracking shots (attempts and blocked) for and against, and shooting the puck is essentially giving up posession of the puck, is it a useless stat?
- 1970vintage


Puck recovery is a huge part of maintaining and controlling possession and dictating play in all game states. So if you're able to shoot more its likely because you're doing things to recover the puck after "giving up possession".
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jan 9 @ 2:04 PM ET
per BB

Wednesday practice lines for the #Canucks:

Goldobin-Horvat-Boeser
Roussel-Sutter-Granlund
Baertschi-Gaudette-Virtanen
Eriksson-Beagle-Motte/Schaller

Edler-Tanev
Hutton-Gudbranson
Pouliot-Stecher
Del Zotto-Biega
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jan 9 @ 2:05 PM ET
per BB

Wednesday practice lines for the #Canucks:

Goldobin-Horvat-Boeser
Roussel-Sutter-Granlund
Baertschi-Gaudette-Virtanen
Eriksson-Beagle-Motte/Schaller

Edler-Tanev
Hutton-Gudbranson
Pouliot-Stecher
Del Zotto-Biega

- Codes1087

Gross...why not throw Baertschi back with his old line mates ?
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jan 9 @ 2:23 PM ET
Gross...why not throw Baertschi back with his old line mates ?
- CanuckDon

Pumping Goldy before the dumping.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jan 9 @ 2:27 PM ET
Pumping Goldy before the dumping.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Oh right, the signature pump and dump 😍😍
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