And what is a "regular player" anyways? In a league where all kinds of players are expected to fill completely different roles you can't really come up with a universal average.
- NorthNuck

thats the flaw of the stat too many variables. im not sure the forumla they use to determine replacement level but basically whatever those fringe nhlers are is the standard and everyone is measured against them

those hero charts with corsi and stuff were probably the basis of the war stat since they had similar benchmarks for 1st to 4th line players

And what is a "regular player" anyways? In a league where all kinds of players are expected to fill completely different roles you can't really come up with a universal average.
- NorthNuck

I stats fights.

I stats fights.
- Marwood

I stats fights.
- Marwood

Who's fighting?

Who's fighting?
- NorthNuck

The same people who care about Palmu's feelings.

The same people who care about Palmu's feelings.
- Marwood

The same people who care about Palmu's feelings.
- Marwood

I think they stopped chatting a while ago, things got heated.

The same people who care about Palmu's feelings.
- Marwood

Subban syndrom all over again 🤢

- Nucker101

Is that what we think of the way Michigan is developing 2 of Van's prospects?

Subban syndrom all over again 🤢
- CanuckDon

If you have what it takes to be a real NHL player, you won't let your emotions get in the way of achieving that

If you have what it takes to be a real NHL player, you won't let your emotions get in the way of achieving that
- NorthNuck

also, if you have what it takes to learn/develop/produce in the AHL, you won't have to leave for more ice time.

also, if you have what it takes to learn/develop/produce in the AHL, you won't have to leave for more ice time.
- Codes1087

Some players develop slower than others, I'd give him another look next year and if he's not able to take a spot in Utica get rid of him

If you have what it takes to be a real NHL player, you won't let your emotions get in the way of achieving that
- NorthNuck

Yup - life can be hard sometimes. (frank) feelings

Yup - life can be hard sometimes. (frank) feelings
- CanuckDon

I don't know if i'd say (frank) feelings. Feelings can be a motivator to get better, ex: DiPietro after getting cut from team Canada last year

Some players develop slower than others, I'd give him another look next year and if he's not able to take a spot in Utica get rid of him
- NorthNuck

i agree that some take longer, but its not as though Palmu didn't get an opportunity. He obviously wasn't up to the coaches standards of how they want him to play/learn. I say him going back to Finland, learning there, and trying out again for Utica next year is a good thing. I just hate how this is made into a bigger deal than it has to be. Kid was sh|tting the bed and wasn't playing cause he didn't deserve it, not really out of the norm.

Subban syndrom all over again 🤢
- CanuckDon

This love for halflings and manlets is baffling.

Yup - life can be hard sometimes. (frank) feelings
- CanuckDon

Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.

He wasnt good enough, theres only so many spots in Utica and they make everyone earn it.
- neem55

I think some people here feel every drafted player should make the NHL. If they can't make the AHL then chances are you probably won't see them in the NHL.

i agree that some take longer, but its not as though Palmu didn't get an opportunity. He obviously wasn't up to the coaches standards of how they want him to play/learn. I say him going back to Finland, learning there, and trying out again for Utica next year is a good thing. I just hate how this is made into a bigger deal than it has to be. Kid was sh|tting the bed and wasn't playing cause he didn't deserve it, not really out of the norm.
- Codes1087

I'm not really invested in what happens with Palmu, it's not like the odds aren't astronomical that he'd ever play in the NHL.

Like I said earlier, what is potentially concerning about it is that the coaching staff in Utica didn't effectively communicate what was expected of him. Could be a one off of course, but I don't like the idea of that happening with a high potential 1st or 2nd round pick.

Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- VanHockeyGuy

I think some people here feel every drafted player should make the NHL. If they can't make the AHL then chances are you probably won't see them in the NHL.
- VANTEL

Rebuild set back at least 1 week.......

(frank)

Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- VanHockeyGuy

Stupid and a halfling? Now that would be extra tough

I think some people here feel every drafted player should make the NHL. If they can't make the AHL then chances are you probably won't see them in the NHL.
- VANTEL

rooting for them all, 12 games in the ahl didn't sound like much of an opportunity but if he looked out of place for most of it then what can you do. as always, it is up to the player to show they deserve to play. hope he works on skating or whatever

rooting for them all, 12 games in the ahl didn't sound like much of an opportunity but if he looked out of place for most of it then what can you do. as always, it is up to the player to show they deserve to play. hope he works on skating or whatever
- hillbillydeluxe

That sounds like what they told him to work on

Stupid and a halfling? Now that would be extra tough
- CanuckDon

Lefty is one of those tweeners and you hurt his feelings and now he doesn't come here no more.

Show some compassion you coffee tossing Bastard. Just kidding