I think you're going to have a very difficult time getting any of the 4 1st round picks out of Buffalo. Their GM thinks of those as solid gold.

I keep going back the Brassard trade which give me some optimism.

To Buffalo: Dzingle
To OTtawa: San Jose 1st

Buffalo may want to stay the course, especially since Murray (frank)ed things up by trying to speed up the rebuild, but they may also want to show Skinner that they're committed to this thing, and they have a boat load of first rounders.
- david22

The only way this would happen is a sign and trade, Buffalo is not giving up first round picks for rentals. Botts is treating those first round picks like GOLD.

LOL!! Alex Burrows!! I can't believe (Or can I at this point?) Dorion gave him an extension right away for a washed up hockey player at that point. Another noodle scratcher from Dorion.

Duchene will not be eligible performance bonuses in a contract. The only bonuses he can get are signing bonuses which is just part of his salary paid in a lump sum and agree upon times.

If Dorion is playing games around waiting to see what the early trade offers might be for Duchene and Stone, then he's playing a very dangerous game. It's one thing to emphasize youth, but quite another to strip your team of every meaningful player over the age of 26. They've also only got 2 non-IR players on contract beyond the 2019/20 season, one of whom will almost certainly be bought out... so it's not like they have any kind of meaningful long-term cap issue to content with.

What they should be doing is signing Duchene and Stone ASAP, and then focusing their attention on is trading the likes of Dzingel, Ceci, Boedker, Tierney, Smith, and Harpur... preferably in combinations that allow them to return higher-end draft picks and prospects in return. Secondary players like that need to play with good players, and will just be severely overpaid if they're retained as the team's veteran depth.

Trevor Shackles: It Might be Time to Trade Matt Duchene
If Duchene isn't going to sign, Ottawa needs to trade him
- Trevor Shackles

Ya think?

Awful situation

The only way this would happen is a sign and trade, Buffalo is not giving up first round picks for rentals. Botts is treating those first round picks like GOLD.
- gordong

What about a goalie, like Quick?

Quick is a phenomenal playoff competitor and him possibly being available, I can see a team like buffalo possibly trading for him

I think you're going to have a very difficult time getting any of the 4 1st round picks out of Buffalo. Their GM thinks of those as solid gold.
- kingcong39

Pretty sure it’s 3 picks and guaranteed 2 1sts this year and the other is conditional like in 2020 or 2021 depending on how things pan out with OTT and SJ I believe.

Do you think Stone will re-sign or hit free agency? What is the consensus up there?
- mhp

I think it's anyone's guess. He will either be resigned or traded by next month. That goes for Duchene and Dzingel too.

Out of the 3, Stone makes the most sense to resign. I think all 3 will be traded

I could see a team like the Anaheim Ducks making an enticing offer. They are on the playoff bubble, the coach and GM are probably facing alot of pressure to make playoffs and they have an abundance of young players they could move in a deal.

Maybe something along the lines of...

To Anaheim: Matt Duchene

To Ottawa: Max Jones or Nick Ritchie and Ana 1st 2019

I doubt we could get a top end prospect like a Troy Terry or Sam Steel, but this would a decent return for a rental.

Pretty sure it’s 3 picks and guaranteed 2 1sts this year and the other is conditional like in 2020 or 2021 depending on how things pan out with OTT and SJ I believe.
- KINGS67

I think it is like this.

Buffalo 2019 1st
San Jose 2019 1st (Lottery Protected, if San jose misses the playoffs then Buffalo picks in 2020)

St Louis 2019 1st (top 10 protected, if they finish bottom ten, Buffalo can get the 2020 pick)

Buffalo 2020 1st .

I think it is like this.

Buffalo 2019 1st
San Jose 2019 1st (Lottery Protected, if San jose misses the playoffs then Buffalo picks in 2020)

St Louis 2019 1st (top 10 protected, if they finish bottom ten, Buffalo can get the 2020 pick)

Buffalo 2020 1st .
- david22

That sounds about right. What i would love to see is buffalo getting stl and sj 1sts this year

INSIDE WORD FROM CTC on Sunday!!!
YOUR NIGHTMARE IS COMIMG TO AN END
ALL-STAR BREAK WAIT FOR IT!!!
Also, Duchene/Anderson to Philly for a 1st.
Dzingel to CLB.

INSIDE WORD FROM CTC on Sunday!!!
YOUR NIGHTMARE IS COMIMG TO AN END
ALL-STAR BREAK WAIT FOR IT!!!
Also, Duchene/Anderson to Philly for a 1st.
Dzingel to CLB.
- JACMAN

jesus Christ dude, Duchene by himself is worth a 1st and good prospect....MINIMUM.

Anderson is worth at least a 3rd rd pick

package them together, I'd want a 1st, 4th, and Frost

Would Ottawa do the following:

To WPG: Matt Duchene

To OTT: Jack Roslovic, 2019 first round pick, Mathieu Perreault

This trade done with the idea that Duchene would sign with the Jets.

Would Ottawa do the following:

To WPG: Matt Duchene

To OTT: Jack Roslovic, 2019 first round pick, Mathieu Perreault

This trade done with the idea that Duchene would sign with the Jets.
- TheUltimateJet

not a bad deal.....I feel like Perreault is a bit of a cap dump at this time, I think that's what would hold it up.

take Perreault out and add another pick or prospect and it might work.

I'd probably want another asset thrown in too, with some conditions on it.

something like

2019 1st
Roslovic
2020 conditional 1st (if Duchene re-signs)

I think a signed Duchne is worth 2 very late 1sts and a prospect

not a bad deal.....I feel like Perreault is a bit of a cap dump at this time, I think that's what would hold it up.

take Perreault out and add another pick or prospect and it might work.

I'd probably want another asset thrown in too, with some conditions on it.

something like

2019 1st
Roslovic
2020 conditional 1st (if Duchene re-signs)

I think a signed Duchene is worth 2 very late 1sts and a prospect
- sensarmy_11

The only way this deal would work is if Perreault is included. The Jets will need the added cap space to keep all their assets. The Senators would need Perreault just to hit the cap floor.

The only way this deal would work is if Perreault is included. The Jets will need the added cap space to keep all their assets. The Senators would need Perreault just to hit the cap floor.
- TheUltimateJet

I am pretty sure that the promotion for next year will be that each season ticket holder gets to play one NHL game, and we will get to cap floor by taking on every LTIR contract in the league from teams that have money.

jesus Christ dude, Duchene by himself is worth a 1st and good prospect....MINIMUM.

Anderson is worth at least a 3rd rd pick

package them together, I'd want a 1st, 4th, and Frost
- sensarmy_11

Dude get over it your not getting your money back on your return.

You want the isles to give up dobson and a first? This is a rebuild team who just happened to havd a good season. Hard no

Sign and trade maybe, but they just learned there lesson from Tavares. No more UFA's going unsigned

You can get AHO and a 2nd and be happy

Everyone is going to low ball the sens

Ill take a chance in the off season

It will be imspressive to see how Dorion manages to not get a first round pick back for Duchene.

Dude get over it your not getting your money back on your return.

You want the isles to give up dobson and a first? This is a rebuild team who just happened to havd a good season. Hard no

Sign and trade maybe, but they just learned there lesson from Tavares. No more UFA's going unsigned

You can get AHO and a 2nd and be happy

Everyone is going to low ball the sens

Ill take a chance in the off season
- Flexingtheshaft

In terms of value, Ottawa easily gets Dobson and a 1st. And that’s not “getting our money back” Ottawa gave up way more than that to get him.

In terms of value, Ottawa easily gets Dobson and a 1st. And that’s not “getting our money back” Ottawa gave up way more than that to get him.
- sensarmy_11

Yea and it was a bad trade

Value? He is a rental for a half a season. Atleast karlson the sharks got all year

A team like the ducks, sharks and bruins who are in win now would give up a 1st. They need tk make a deep run

Islanders, buffalo, toronto dont have to bet it all this year

I think it's anyone's guess. He will either be resigned or traded by next month. That goes for Duchene and Dzingel too.
Out of the 3, Stone makes the most sense to resign. I think all 3 will be traded
- AlfieisKing

Personally, I'd sign Duchene before Stone or Dzingel. Not only is he a high-end scoring centre with great skating and face-off ability, but there's also the political baggage of that g-d trade that will simply never go away if they don't re-sign him. Compare that with Stone and Dzingel being the result of 6th/7th round picks in back-to-back drafts. Factor in the relative strength of their scoring winger prospects, and I'm not sure how Duchene isn't the priority in terms of signing long-term.

In terms of value, Ottawa easily gets Dobson and a 1st. And that’s not “getting our money back” Ottawa gave up way more than that to get him.
- sensarmy_11

Seems like a lot to give up for rental when the Isles aren't really in win now mode. Blue jackets are a possibility though if they want to go for it with Panarin and Bob potentially leaving at end of y ear.

What about Colorado as a potential trade target (not for Duchene, or Ottawa's first.)

Maybe Dzingel for a 2nd and a prospect? A 1st?

He's on pace for 30 goals 60+ points, what's the going rate for a player of that caliber?