Marty on waivers? Sure why not. But lets keep Kunitz around??? Guy formed a solid 4th line that could crash/cycle. The journey to stay pampers soft continues. The way JC is handling this roster? The entire organization is schizophrenic right now.
- z1990z

They literally can't do anything with Kunitz. He has a NMC.

My guess is that they are keeping AA on the second line to move him. I wouldn't read too much into how the team is constructed or displayed on the ice right now. They know that this team is not going to the playoffs. Once the TDL passes, you will likely see more "development" type deployment.

They literally can't do anything with Kunitz. He has a NMC.

My guess is that they are keeping AA on the second line to move him. I wouldn't read too much into how the team is constructed or displayed on the ice right now. They know that this team is not going to the playoffs. Once the TDL passes, you will likely see more "development" type deployment.
- Chunk

He can be waived though yes?

Martinsen is a bad hockey player who is 28 years old. Has horrible advanced stats (at least how I read them).

I'd be shocked if anyone claimed him. He is a useless plug who serves no purpose.
- bhawks2241

Indeed his fancies are poor as are many of the bottom 6ers, about identical to Hayden's. ...... Point is the organIzation worships at the speed/skill alter and can't/won't utilize a big physical player's skills or create a role for them.

Nothing new here by axing Martinson or a player like him. ....... There were a couple games where the Martinson-Kruger-Hayden line created some good chances, had solid possession numbers and played the body.

He can be waived though yes?
- z1990z

The No-Movement Clause:

A No-Movement Clause prohibits a team from moving a player by trade, waivers, or assigning that player to the minors without the player’s consent. This keeps the player with the pro team unless the player approves one of these moves. The player has the final say.

I believe the only option they have is that they can buy out the contract, but from what I can tell, we would be hit on next year's cap as well.

what was the link from the article? I just don't know if SAAD brings back more then what he is. a 2nd line wing that plays pretty good d probably a 25 goal and 20 assists. Look for Keith to not a cap team but a team that has a internal budget. even thou his cap hit is 5.5 he is owed less then 10 mil over the last 4 years of his deal. SAAD is actual owed 6.75 his last 2 seasons. AA might be someone to trade on july 1st after we pay the 2 mil bonus. he would only be owed 5 mil his last 2 years with a 4.55 AAV.

In this scenario, the Hawks sign a #2 for 1.5 mil, who is their starter? Crow, Delia? If Crow comes back healthy Delia is the #2 or goes back to Rockford and they sign a #2?

At this point I don't see Delia not a Hawk next yr.
- Mr Ricochet

That is a question for sure. Delia himself could be the backup or 1A/B. There are many ways it could play out, but I guess my point was they don't have to break the bank for a backup goalie. There are options if they feel like they want save cash. I think the whole Ward for 3 million was because they knew they weren't going to max out their cap space this season. The signings in the summer were part of the retool/rebuild to me. Just trying to keep the team competitive while they restock with more useful players.

Indeed his fancies are poor as are many of the bottom 6ers, about identical to Hayden's. ...... Point is the organIzation worships at the speed/skill alter and can't/won't utilize a big physical player's skills or create a role for them.

Nothing new here by axing Martinson or a player like him. ....... There were a couple games where the Martinson-Kruger-Hayden line created some good chances, had solid possession numbers and played the body.
- Mr Ricochet

Not that I think anyone would be able to score the interview, buy I would love for someone to talk to Q (now that he is no longer with the team) about his line decisions and ideas the last couple of years.

Indeed his fancies are poor as are many of the bottom 6ers, about identical to Hayden's. ...... Point is the organIzation worships at the speed/skill alter and can't/won't utilize a big physical player's skills or create a role for them.

Nothing new here by axing Martinson or a player like him. ....... There were a couple games where the Martinson-Kruger-Hayden line created some good chances, had solid possession numbers and played the body.
- Mr Ricochet

Tortorella likes players like Martinsen. He is probably fed up with Duclair by now. I could see Columbus putting in a claim.

They literally can't do anything with Kunitz. He has a NMC.

My guess is that they are keeping AA on the second line to move him. I wouldn't read too much into how the team is constructed or displayed on the ice right now. They know that this team is not going to the playoffs. Once the TDL passes, you will likely see more "development" type deployment.
- Chunk

Kunitz is also on a 35+ contract so there is nothing we can do except eat the salary for the rest of the year.
Maybe if we sit him permanently then he may waive the NMC at the TDL, providing someone wants him. Maybe if Q latches onto another team by then, he may want him.

Marty on waivers? Sure why not. But lets keep Kunitz around??? Guy formed a solid 4th line that could crash/cycle. The journey to stay pampers soft continues. The way JC is handling this roster? The entire organization is schizophrenic right now.
- z1990z

Schizophrenic no, bipolar maybe.

For those lamenting the Martinsen decision, I can't imagine that the front office didn't try to find a bag of pucks coming back for Martinsen. It's not a big loss if he gets claimed, as much as I have enjoyed seeing him deliver a few timely hits. For one thing, the Hawks have 48 players under contract. Freeing a space up gives them more flexibility for future moves. Boqvist, Beaudin, and Entwistle are currently exempt from the 50 player limit, for instance. And it's not like they are going to sign him again this summer, either.

I agree that giving Forsling some time in Rockford would probably be beneficial for everyone. I think he is really struggling against the forecheck in particular. It's becoming more and more noticeable each game. If it's going to happen, it will be when Jokiharju returns.

It wouldn't surprise me to see Sikura get sent back down to Rockford, either. He needs more time in the system. The argument against is that his contract is up this summer, and they need to see what he has.

Tortorella likes players like Martinsen. He is probably fed up with Duclair by now. I could see Columbus putting in a claim.
- RickJ

Very likely. He's playing about 11 minutes per game, and hasn't had a point in about 14 games.

Stupid move! He still had some value to the team and could be retained if we demoted Sikura who is contributing nothing. Martinsen will be claimed by someone.

EDIT: Unless Bowman is officially going into tank mode.
- 67hawks

How does getting rid of one of the least important guys on the team consittute tank mode?

Who do they have to resign this summer?

I say let delia be the starter next year.

Let Davidson, Ward, Rutta, Martinsen, kunitz, kruger and perlini all walk or trade some at the deadline for picks/prospects.

Resign sikura to minimum (would it be 1.1 mil due to 10% raise?), Kampf I would give little bit more to ( I like his play, and I think the Hawks do too), so maybe 1.3, resign forsling and dahlstrom to around 1.3 each also ( all of these deals would be bridge for like 3 years), sign delia to 1.5. Then trade gustaffson.

All of this would be a salary of 66.5 mil, and if the cap goes up to 82 mil, it gives them 15.5 mil to sign 2-3 forwards (maybe 1 top 6?), and a backup goaltender, and that is with Crawford still on the books. Count me as one that doesn't think the Hawks need to sign a veteran defenseman. Just get Keith back in the right frame of mind this off season.

Even if you think that those RFA's will get a bit more, lets say the hawks only have 14 mil to work with. I think it is still very doable to sign 4 veterans, only one of which (top 6) would get any significant amount of salary. Or maybe they only sign one or two and bring up more young guys. All I know is they have way more options this summer than the past 10 summers. I am excited to see what they do.

They literally can't do anything with Kunitz. He has a NMC.

My guess is that they are keeping AA on the second line to move him. I wouldn't read too much into how the team is constructed or displayed on the ice right now. They know that this team is not going to the playoffs. Once the TDL passes, you will likely see more "development" type deployment.
- Chunk

They can trade him if they find an interested team and if Kunitz waives, which for a playoff team I'm sure he would.

Who do they have to resign this summer?

I say let delia be the starter next year.

Let Davidson, Ward, Rutta, Martinsen, kunitz, kruger and perlini all walk or trade some at the deadline for picks/prospects.

Resign sikura to minimum (would it be 1.1 mil due to 10% raise?), Kampf I would give little bit more to ( I like his play, and I think the Hawks do too), so maybe 1.3, resign forsling and dahlstrom to around 1.3 each also ( all of these deals would be bridge for like 3 years), sign delia to 1.5. Then trade gustaffson.

All of this would be a salary of 66.5 mil, and if the cap goes up to 82 mil, it gives them 15.5 mil to sign 2-3 forwards (maybe 1 top 6?), and a backup goaltender, and that is with Crawford still on the books. Count me as one that doesn't think the Hawks need to sign a veteran defenseman. Just get Keith back in the right frame of mind this off season.

Even if you think that those RFA's will get a bit more, lets say the hawks only have 14 mil to work with. I think it is still very doable to sign 4 veterans, only one of which (top 6) would get any significant amount of salary. Or maybe they only sign one or two and bring up more young guys. All I know is they have way more options this summer than the past 10 summers. I am excited to see what they do.
- ToewsdNKanefusd

Why would you get rid of a young player with some good attributes like Pirlini?

They can trade him if they find an interested team and if Kunitz waives, which for a playoff team I'm sure he would.
- paulr

Indeed they can, but the comment was lamenting the fact that they waived Martinsen, so I was just addressing the fact that they could not do the same with Kunitz.

Marty on waivers? Sure why not. But lets keep Kunitz around??? Guy formed a solid 4th line that could crash/cycle. The journey to stay pampers soft continues. The way JC is handling this roster? The entire organization is schizophrenic right now.
- z1990z

Kunitz has NMC

I don’t have a problem waiving Martinsen, if they could have gotten something for him they would have. If we’re lucky someone claims him and we have another contract slot open up, but I’m not holding my breath.

Have to wonder what Rocky thinks about paying this kind of money for AHL players.

Kunitz has NMC
- ToewsdNKanefusd

that is CRAZY - 39 yr old, offers little with a NMC,

that is CRAZY - 39 yr old, offers little with a NMC,
- glennjpawlak22

6th round pick

Indeed they can, but the comment was lamenting the fact that they waived Martinsen, so I was just addressing the fact that they could not do the same with Kunitz.
- Chunk

No idea why they signed Kunitz, for Q maybe, but to sign him I'm sure he wouldn't have accepted a contract without the NMC.

Why would you get rid of a young player with some good attributes like Pirlini?
- paulr

He hasn't really been noticeable yet, and is only playing 4th line right now, unless he significantly improves, I don't see them resigning him. They have a bunch of young guys with good attributes.

EDIT: Although, he could be sent to he minors, if I am correct. Then maybe they do resign him. He was actually one on the fence for me, unsure of whether I would want him or not, guess we will just have to see how he shakes out the rest of this year.

He hasn't really been noticeable yet, and is only playing 4th line right now, unless he significantly improves, I don't see them resigning him. They have a bunch of young guys with good attributes.
- ToewsdNKanefusd

A rebuilding team has to keep all of their young prospects to see how they can develop. Dumping kids who are under 25 doesn't make much sense to me. It's not like he can't play.

A rebuilding team has to keep all of their young prospects to see how they can develop. Dumping kids who are under 25 doesn't make much sense to me. It's not like he can't play.
- paulr

Fair enough...I'll take back dumping perlini...not like it breaks the bank or completely invalidates my post about how they have a lot of options this summer.