Theo Fox
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It would be great if Stan can get bigger down the middle . - Taylorst1
Strome and Kampf are a step in that direction to go along with Toews. Anisimov is a big player but I get what you're saying. If Strome is 2C and Kampf is 4C next season, then a rugged and talented 3C would help round out the center depth.
If going after one via free agency this summer, the ones that fit the bill and who are still young are the aforementioned Dzingel, Nelson, and Hayes. Doubt Hayes has Chicago on his priority list but Nelson would be awesome. Dzingel wouldn't be bad either especially in a 3C role. |
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mrpaulish
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Location: Itasca, IL Joined: 01.18.2010
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Americans just got robbed of a goal. With replay ! WTF ? How does that happen? |
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walleyeb1
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Location: Petersburg, IL Joined: 09.25.2014
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Americans just got robbed of a goal. With replay ! WTF ? How does that happen? - mrpaulish
Been a lot of complaints about the officiating throughout the WC. |
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Strome and Kampf are a step in that direction to go along with Toews. Anisimov is a big player but I get what you're saying. If Strome is 2C and Kampf is 4C next season, then a rugged and talented 3C would help round out the center depth.
If going after one via free agency this summer, the ones that fit the bill and who are still young are the aforementioned Dzingel, Nelson, and Hayes. Doubt Hayes has Chicago on his priority list but Nelson would be awesome. Dzingel wouldn't be bad either especially in a 3C role. - AEL_Fox
Barrett man. The dude runs his mouth can score goals and will run dudes in the middle of the ice. Going to be a Dave Bolland type in two or three years.
And that's the time table boys and girls. 2-3 years. I think they should be planning for that rather then now. Since now is going to be pretty impossible. |
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Taylorst1
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Joined: 07.09.2018
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Ek is saying the hawks are 1 of a few teams looking into Dzingel. I feel like his name is tied to the hawks pretty frequently. Is that because he's from Chicago? - I Am The Breadman
He has some decent numbers could easily slot in as a 3c. I can't imagine his contract next year would be something we can't afford to manage. |
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Theo Fox
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Joined: 06.18.2016
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Barrett man. The dude runs his mouth can score goals and will run dudes in the middle of the ice. Going to be a Dave Bolland type in two or three years.
And that's the time table boys and girls. 2-3 years. I think they should be planning for that rather then now. Since now is going to be pretty impossible. - fattybeef
With you on Barratt. Assume he signs an ELC at the end of the NCAA season, then say 2 years away unless he's like Shaw and starts killing it at the NHL level with little to no time on the farm.
Another question is what position for him. He can play center but also plays LW. First things first: sign the ELC then earn the spot. If development is needed in the AHL, totally fine with that. I believe him to be part of the future so he should be brought along at the appropriate pace. |
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Taylorst1
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Joined: 07.09.2018
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Strome and Kampf are a step in that direction to go along with Toews. Anisimov is a big player but I get what you're saying. If Strome is 2C and Kampf is 4C next season, then a rugged and talented 3C would help round out the center depth.
If going after one via free agency this summer, the ones that fit the bill and who are still young are the aforementioned Dzingel, Nelson, and Hayes. Doubt Hayes has Chicago on his priority list but Nelson would be awesome. Dzingel wouldn't be bad either especially in a 3C role. - AEL_Fox
Dzingel would be perfect as a 3c he has solid numbers. His contract is 1.5 or 1.8 I can't see him getting anymore than 3 million. That's reasonable.
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Taylorst1
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Joined: 07.09.2018
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With you on Barratt. Assume he signs an ELC at the end of the NCAA season, then say 2 years away unless he's like Shaw and starts killing it at the NHL level with little to no time on the farm.
Another question is what position for him. He can play center but also plays LW. First things first: sign the ELC then earn the spot. If development is needed in the AHL, totally fine with that. I believe him to be part of the future so he should be brought along at the appropriate pace. - AEL_Fox
Stans going to have to make some moves before February's trade deadline and I can't see him sitting on anisomov, Keith , Seabrook I feel 1 or 2 of those guys are moved out for cap space but also picks and prospects with taking on some salary.
Rockford really has nothing at this moment that can help improve the forwards.
Trades and free agency is what Stan will have to go to in order to improve.
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Taylorst1
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Joined: 07.09.2018
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Yeah he's been a rumored target of the Hawks for the past few years mostly because of his potential and not living up to it just yet (though it seems he is now...in his contract year...hello I'm a red flag!!!) and he's from Wheaton - Savetheembers33
Maybe Chicago moves debrincant and anisomov for dzingel and stone.
Stone IMO is a better player overall than debrincant and dzingel would be a upgrade as a 3c over anismov.
Than Stan just needs to find a taker for either Keith or Seabrook to free up future cap space and gets picks and prospects |
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tvetter
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Location: Burkesville, KY Joined: 12.16.2015
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With you on Barratt. Assume he signs an ELC at the end of the NCAA season, then say 2 years away unless he's like Shaw and starts killing it at the NHL level with little to no time on the farm.
Another question is what position for him. He can play center but also plays LW. First things first: sign the ELC then earn the spot. If development is needed in the AHL, totally fine with that. I believe him to be part of the future so he should be brought along at the appropriate pace. - AEL_Fox
Wise could also be in the mix in 2 or 3 years. |
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tvetter
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Location: Burkesville, KY Joined: 12.16.2015
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Maybe Chicago moves debrincant and anisomov for dzingel and stone.
Stone IMO is a better player overall than debrincant and dzingel would be a upgrade as a 3c over anismov.
Than Stan just needs to find a taker for either Keith or Seabrook to free up future cap space and gets picks and prospects - Taylorst1
Very risky trade. Trade a top 6 and top 9 with term for a top 6 and top 9 that could both walk at the end of the year. |
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Taylorst1
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Joined: 07.09.2018
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Very risky trade. Trade a top 6 and top 9 with term for a top 6 and top 9 that could both walk at the end of the year. - tvetter
It is risky. But for Stan to be able to play in free agency he needs to make moves to free up cap space so if he plans on moving players why not try and go after players you would target. Debrincant or saad are the only 2 players of real value that you can get a top 6 in return.
Ansimov is expendable .
Debrincant doesn't fit in on toews line . Kahun is their only due to the lack of talent this team has. Stone is a solid 2 way player who would hopefully work well with toews. That solidify his line. Then you target a top 6 lw to play with strome and Kane or trade for a young solid lw on a entry level contract |
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Mr Ricochet
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Location: Joliet, IL Joined: 04.19.2009
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Americans just got robbed of a goal. With replay ! WTF ? How does that happen? - mrpaulish
And their goalie is hot. A battle for sure but the FIN captain going down hurts them........ Good game. 19 of the Americans are playing NCAA hockey. Always a good thing when the NCAA beats out Major Junior. |
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Larmer
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Location: Stamford, CT Joined: 06.13.2014
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Was that Tuomo Ruutu on the Fins bench as part of the coaching staff? |
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It would be great if Stan can get bigger down the middle . - Taylorst1
That's what she said. |
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Theo Fox
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Joined: 06.18.2016
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Wise could also be in the mix in 2 or 3 years. - tvetter
Agree with that as well. One concern is that Wise has had a major injury the past two years that has ended his season prematurely each time. Hope he can put those behind him and get back on track with development.
Best guess is a middle 6 center with potential to be a 2C. Great skater and offensive instincts while also solid in all zones.
As far as timeline, have him play at least two more years at BU then see where he is at by end of junior year. If his freshman year wasn't shot down due to injury, an ELC after sophomore year may have been in the cards. Could still be possible but why rush the kid.
Once he does sign his ELC, tack on another 1-2 years of time in Rockford. |
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HawkintheD
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Location: Sick Bay, MI Joined: 02.22.2012
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It is risky. But for Stan to be able to play in free agency he needs to make moves to free up cap space so if he plans on moving players why not try and go after players you would target. Debrincant or saad are the only 2 players of real value that you can get a top 6 in return.
Ansimov is expendable .
Debrincant doesn't fit in on toews line . Kahun is their only due to the lack of talent this team has. Stone is a solid 2 way player who would hopefully work well with toews. That solidify his line. Then you target a top 6 lw to play with strome and Kane or trade for a young solid lw on a entry level contract - Taylorst1
Yeah, but DeBrincat's contract isn't an issue for another year. Why would you trade him for a player you can negotiate with in the offseason? That's horrible asset management. |
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Theo Fox
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Joined: 06.18.2016
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Very risky trade. Trade a top 6 and top 9 with term for a top 6 and top 9 that could both walk at the end of the year. - tvetter
Agree, if the Hawks are going to pursue either Stone or Dzingel (or both), wait until the summer when they become UFAs. Although some creative moves may be needed to free space, it is possible to have Stone and Dzingel along with Saad and DeBrincat.
They have some decent cap space now and will get more by not resigning Kruger, Kunitz, Davidson, and Rutta as well as possibly finding a trade to ship out Anisimov for draft picks and/or prospects. The RFAs they have to re-sign may get slight raises but they won't collectively break the bank as long as Stan is frugal. |
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Mr Ricochet
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Location: Joliet, IL Joined: 04.19.2009
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Agree with that as well. One concern is that Wise has had a major injury the past two years that has ended his season prematurely each time. Hope he can put those behind him and get back on track with development.
Best guess is a middle 6 center with potential to be a 2C. Great skater and offensive instincts while also solid in all zones. - AEL_Fox
The Athletic had a solid article on Wise after the draft. The US coaches said he rehabbed and handled the injury last yr like an NHLer. Stayed around his teammates and that his work ethic is off the charts.
Besides skill the kid has a lot of intangibles.
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Theo Fox
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Joined: 06.18.2016
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The Athletic had a solid article on Wise after the draft. The US coaches said he rehabbed and handled the injury last yr like an NHLer. Stayed around his teammates and that his work ethic is off the charts.
Besides skill the kid has a lot of intangibles. - Mr Ricochet
As Tallon would say, "the kid has a ton of character" which is very true. Mature, composed, and like you said has a solid work ethic. No matter what he ends up being in the NHL, he will be the ultimate professional and a reliable leader. |
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DarthKane
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Location: 5.13.4.9 Joined: 02.23.2012
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It would be great if Stan can get bigger down the middle . - Taylorst1
You want Stan to get fat? |
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You want Stan to get fat? - DarthKane
A bulge in the bilge, it's more polite. |
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tvetter
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Location: Burkesville, KY Joined: 12.16.2015
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Has Barratt played in the third? |
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Mr Ricochet
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Location: Joliet, IL Joined: 04.19.2009
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Has Barratt played in the third? - tvetter
Great observation!! Not sure he's gotten a shift since he ran the goalie and got penalized!
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RickJ
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Location: Burlington, ON Joined: 01.12.2010
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Great observation!! Not sure he's gotten a shift since he ran the goalie and got penalized! - Mr Ricochet
Stupid penalty by Barrett.
Finns are a tough, plucky bunch. |
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