Over the last 15 games he’s ~30% cf%, ~35% scf, and ~45% hdcf with a -1 5v5 goal differential. He still sucks ass.
- j.boyd919

Ouch

Over the last 15 games he’s ~30% cf%, ~35% scf, and ~45% hdcf with a -1 5v5 goal differential. He still sucks ass.
- j.boyd919

Where'd you get last 15 game stats?


How about some zone exit/entry stats and what not?....those numbers are a bit damning to be sure but I cant just say he sucks ass when he skates as well as he does and when he lays good smart hard checks like he does. I think his passing is at least average too which is more than can be said for others.

Pretty much every game I've seen things I've really liked about what he's doing on the ice.

Where'd you get last 15 game stats?


How about some zone exit/entry stats and what not?....those numbers are a bit damning to be sure but I cant just say he sucks ass when he skates as well as he does and when he lays good smart hard checks like he does. I think his passing is at least average too which is more than can be said for others.

Pretty much every game I've seen things I've really liked about what he's doing on the ice.
- MattStrat

Natural Stat Trick has a filter setting so you can filter it to the teams last “x” games.
Zone exit/entry stats usually come way later in the season if I recall because Corey manually tracks all of those things.

Natural Stat Trick has a filter setting so you can filter it to the teams last “x” games.
Zone exit/entry stats usually come way later in the season if I recall because Corey manually tracks all of those things.
- j.boyd919

Thanks.

I will say that in this 7 game winning streak I dont think the team as a whole has been playing nearly as good as the 15ish games before it.

Actually, the 3 or 4 games before this winning streak were close to terrible and a lot of people were getting ready to jump of the ledge. The 15ish games before that they were playing some pretty solid games. More very good periods than not.

EDIT: Since December 1st Rikky has only played 8 games. His first 3 since December 1st games his stats were much higher than his last 15 game sample you speak of. Did you go back to the games before he was scratched for a long time?

Bortuzzo did pretty well against Wilson last night.

Bortuzzo did pretty well against Wilson last night.
- Grinder47

Being given time to actually ready and square off can make a big difference...

Thanks.

I will say that in this 7 game winning streak I dont think the team as a whole has been playing nearly as good as the 15ish games before it.

Actually, the 3 or 4 games before this winning streak were close to terrible and a lot of people were getting ready to jump of the ledge. The 15ish games before that they were playing some pretty solid games. More very good periods than not.

EDIT: Since December 1st Rikky has only played 8 games. His first 3 since December 1st games his stats were much higher than his last 15 game sample you speak of. Did you go back to the games before he was scratched for a long time?
- MattStrat

It was just the whole teams last 15 games. 112 minutes at 5v5. Is there a date range you want me to check? I can filter between dates too. I just figured seeing how the team is getting results, I’d find the more recent results for players.

https://www.pensburgh.com/2019/1/4/18168144/penguins-statistics-analytics-war-goals-points-wins-nhl-advanced-stats-sidney-crosby

WAR article for the full lineup from Pensburgh is a good read.
- j.boyd919

Thanks was a nice read. That third line needs to change or Brass needs moved for a new 3c

It was just the whole teams last 15 games. 112 minutes at 5v5. Is there a date range you want me to check? I can filter between dates too. I just figured seeing how the team is getting results, I’d find the more recent results for players.
- j.boyd919

Yeah, the last 15 team games is only a 7 game sample size for Rikk. Not very big.

When you look at almost every players metrics in those 15 games they're not very good ie: only player above 50% for CF% is Crosby at 51.68%. So that kinda goes in line with that I said: they haven't played that well this 7 game streak or the 4 games before.

Yeah, the last 15 team games is only a 7 game sample size for Rikk. Not very big.

When you look at almost every players metrics in those 15 games they're not very good ie: only player above 50% for CF% is Crosby at 51.68%. So that kinda goes in line with that I said: they haven't played that well this 7 game streak or the 4 games before.
- MattStrat

I mean, I don’t think they’ve played well all season in regards to shot attempts/scoring chances. There have been very few games where they are severely outshooting the other team if my mind recalls correctly. I think the majority of the Pens games are hovering around the 50% mark or lower.

I really wanna see an urgent and hungry AF team come out tonight with 1st place up for grabs.

I mean, I don’t think they’ve played well all season in regards to shot attempts/scoring chances. There have been very few games where they are severely outshooting the other team if my mind recalls correctly. I think the majority of the Pens games are hovering around the 50% mark or lower.
- j.boyd919

See, I think there was a period of time they were playing very well between middle of November and middle of December. Before and after that though, not so much. Regardless of course, they're banking W's.

Thanks was a nice read. That third line needs to change or Brass needs moved for a new 3c
- 668710

Brass needs to be moved.

I mean, I don’t think they’ve played well all season in regards to shot attempts/scoring chances. There have been very few games where they are severely outshooting the other team if my mind recalls correctly. I think the majority of the Pens games are hovering around the 50% mark or lower.
- j.boyd919

Look at the stats from November 15th to December 15th and keep in mind that towards the end of that period quite a few games are overlapping with your last 15 game sample.

Look at the stats from November 15th to December 15th and keep in mind that towards the end of that period quite a few games are overlapping with your last 15 game sample.
- MattStrat

I keep track during each game and I can tell you without a shadow of a doubt they are allowing far too many quality chances even to poor teams, sometimes at an alarming rate.

I keep track during each game and I can tell you without a shadow of a doubt they are allowing far too many quality chances even to poor teams, sometimes at an alarming rate.
- Rinosaur

But they havent. I have been too. The last 10ish games, yes, the 10 to 15 games before that, no.

Brass needs to be moved.
- Rinosaur

IF the Islanders fall back and IF he's willing to move, i think Filppula would be a good 3C option. His game is somewhat similar to Bonino so maybe he'd mess with Kessel.

I keep track during each game and I can tell you without a shadow of a doubt they are allowing far too many quality chances even to poor teams, sometimes at an alarming rate.
- Rinosaur

Go look at the HDSF% from November 15th to December 12th....4 games with less than 50%

4 out of 14 games but alot of the other games are 60% + or even 70%+

Go look at the HDSF% from November 15th to December 12th....4 games with less than 50%

4 out of 14 games but alot of the other games are 60% + or even 70%+
- MattStrat

Not talking about the percentage. The actual amount. Goaltending will only be able to keep up at that rate for so long.

Look at the stats from November 15th to December 15th and keep in mind that towards the end of that period quite a few games are overlapping with your last 15 game sample.
- MattStrat

They were about a 52% for cf%, scf%, hdcf% for that period. Which in 16 games averages out to about +4 shot attempts at 5v5 a game. I’m cool with that. I’d take that. I’d prefer it to be closer to +8-10.

Not talking about the percentage. The actual amount. Goaltending will only be able to keep up at that rate for so long.
- Rinosaur

I dunno. If they’re on the positive side of the high danger percentage over a 7 game series I feel fine about the Pens finishing their chances. I don’t expect them to completely suppress shots but if they can generate more than the other team I’m cool with it.

Not talking about the percentage. The actual amount. Goaltending will only be able to keep up at that rate for so long.
- Rinosaur

It shows how much more they're out-chancing the opponents.

As Feds would say: Recency bias.

They were playing pretty solid hockey for a period of time this season. Its the last 10ish games plus the fact that they've been dead last in conference this season that makes it overlooked.

They were about a 52% for cf%, scf%, hdcf% for that period. Which in 16 games averages out to about +4 shot attempts at 5v5 a game. I’m cool with that. I’d take that. I’d prefer it to be closer to +8-10.
- j.boyd919

Haha me too and no doubt.

Haha me too and no doubt.
- MattStrat

Well that’s where the first Sully cup run Pens were at. And I don’t understand why they aren’t trying to get back to that. Or at least making management decisions that don’t trend that way.

The recent play of MM and consistant play of CD may be attributing the the shots they are allowing. Now that MM looks like his old self some cheating may be sneaking in.

I thought last game from the 2ish periods I saw was Petterssons worst as a Pen.

I'd like to see him away from JJ. By the looks of those stats he's just trying to keep his head above water right now. He has consistently been paired with JJ since his arrival so you'd have to think a better partner would buoy him a bit.