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Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jan 3 @ 5:06 PM ET
Looks like Bleuger has picked his game up a bit in the last little while.

15G 12A 27pts in 36GP.

- Thorny87

AHL lifer. Nothing to see here.
sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jan 3 @ 5:07 PM ET
If we could flag for pure stupidity you’d have a permanent ban.
- Rinosaur


Toews is #1
Thorny87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 10.17.2014

Jan 3 @ 5:13 PM ET
AHL lifer. Nothing to see here.
- Feds91Stammer

He's behind a lot of other guys. Grant Dea etc. He had an pretty bad start to the year. Might be useful in a package if he can keep adding to his totals.
hipcheck_goalie
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: shreveport, LA
Joined: 02.08.2012

Jan 3 @ 5:16 PM ET
At what? Certainly not goaltending.

MAF was one of the most athletic goalies ever, but his fundamentals and positioning were average at best. He was able to make up for a lot of this with said athleticism. He was also good enough to be a key part of 2 Stanley Cup runs.

But he was not better than Lundquist.

- jmatchett383

Better poke check, better glove, athletic, and can steal a game more often than Henry... Henry is more consistent, technical, and a better passer... There isn't much of a difference between them. Both HOFers.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jan 3 @ 5:25 PM ET
He's behind a lot of other guys. Grant Dea etc. He had an pretty bad start to the year. Might be useful in a package if he can keep adding to his totals.
- Thorny87

He is 24 and a decent AHL player. Literally no value.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jan 3 @ 5:32 PM ET
Better poke check, better glove, athletic, and can steal a game more often than Henry... Henry is more consistent, technical, and a better passer... There isn't much of a difference between them. Both HOFers.
- hipcheck_goalie


Lol wut.
RoloTahmasee
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jan 3 @ 5:33 PM ET
Better poke check, better glove, athletic, and can steal a game more often than Henry... Henry is more consistent, technical, and a better passer... There isn't much of a difference between them. Both HOFers.
- hipcheck_goalie


I would also say that Lundqvist has had a more structured defensive game in front of him through most of his career

Fleury got his undeserved reputation of being "Not Good" when the Penguins played firewagon hockey and iced 2 lines that would be outplayed in the AHL
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Jan 3 @ 5:47 PM ET
Better poke check, better glove, athletic, and can steal a game more often than Henry... Henry is more consistent, technical, and a better passer... There isn't much of a difference between them. Both HOFers.
- hipcheck_goalie



Ummm... hmmm... nope ^^^^


Let me say this... Flower might be the best shootout/penalty shot goalie in NHL history.

Anyone want to have fun with that topic?
martox
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Stockholm - "Nights when we don't have our A-game, we better have our A-commitment & A-effort."
Joined: 09.25.2014

Jan 3 @ 5:49 PM ET
How can anyone hate Sid? He's a class act!
- hipcheck_goalie

(frank) sid. he sucks and should play in the ahl
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jan 3 @ 5:59 PM ET
Ummm... hmmm... nope ^^^^


Let me say this... Flower might be the best shootout/penalty shot goalie in NHL history.

Anyone want to have fun with that topic?

- Guile

https://www.sportingchart...shootout-save-percentage/
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Jan 3 @ 6:06 PM ET
Just read that Brass and Kessel are at 34% possession 5v5 last 4 games. Being outchanced 32-10. When will this long national nightmare end?
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jan 3 @ 6:09 PM ET
Just read that Brass and Kessel are at 34% possession 5v5 last 4 games. Being outchanced 32-10. When will this long national nightmare end?
- madmike71


I’m over Brass.
BringNYIhome
New York Islanders
Location: Smithtown , NY
Joined: 04.10.2016

Jan 3 @ 6:09 PM ET
I love watching the Pens light up the Queen. Not sure how he got his royal nickname but easily the most overrated player in the game. This is what happens when you play in New York and you are moderately successful on a mediocre franchise.
BringNYIhome
New York Islanders
Location: Smithtown , NY
Joined: 04.10.2016

Jan 3 @ 6:11 PM ET
I would also say that Lundqvist has had a more structured defensive game in front of him through most of his career

Fleury got his undeserved reputation of being "Not Good" when the Penguins played firewagon hockey and iced 2 lines that would be outplayed in the AHL

- RoloTahmasee


I think Fleury is proving on Bettman’s Vegas team that he’s better that Henrik Lundqueen
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Jan 3 @ 6:19 PM ET
https://www.sportingcharts.com/stats/nhl/all-time/career-goalie-shootout-save-percentage/
- Feds91Stammer




Hmmm... I can use the sample size argument to consider Flower the best

Or 2nd best if you wanna give it to Varlamov
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Jan 3 @ 6:19 PM ET
I’m over Brass.
- Rinosaur


It's just not working here.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jan 3 @ 6:25 PM ET
I love watching the Pens light up the Queen. Not sure how he got his royal nickname but easily the most overrated player in the game. This is what happens when you play in New York and you are moderately successful on a mediocre franchise.
- BringNYIhome


Dudes the best goalie of our generation and one of the best to ever play the game but yeah he’s overrated. Hahahaha
powerhouse
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Columbia , MD
Joined: 11.28.2006

Jan 3 @ 6:30 PM ET

In his prime Barasso was something special. Bit of a jerk off the ice though.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jan 3 @ 6:30 PM ET
Dudes the best goalie of our generation and one of the best to ever play the game but yeah he’s overrated. Hahahaha
- j.boyd919


I’d argue Henry, Brodeur and Roy are the three best of all time.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Jan 3 @ 6:50 PM ET
I’d argue Henry, Brodeur and Roy are the three best of all time.
- Rinosaur


The best I ever saw was Roy. Brodeur was great too, but geez he benefited greatly from the ugliest defensive hockey the world has ever seen. Still great however. I think Hank is pretty far behind those two, but still really good.

I'd go Roy, Hasek, Brodeur in the first tier for modern goalies. Lundqvist would be a second tier goalie for me.....
DeflatedPucks
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NYC, NY
Joined: 04.29.2016

Jan 3 @ 7:41 PM ET
I’d argue Henry, Brodeur and Roy are the three best of all time.
- Rinosaur

LOL Brodeur? Hasek is ma boi
DeflatedPucks
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NYC, NY
Joined: 04.29.2016

Jan 3 @ 7:49 PM ET
That is debatable. But he doesn't suck and he's not the most overrated player in the game.
- jmatchett383


Nah, he's overpaid.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jan 3 @ 7:58 PM ET
It's just not working here.
- madmike71


The record for when all 3 big C's are in the lineup at same time speaks for itself. Sure, he might not be producing as much as people would like, but he's getting alot less mins and no 1st PP time. At 3 mill I just don't see the Pens getting anyone better and I just don't see him being near as terrible as people are making him out to be.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jan 3 @ 8:27 PM ET
LOL Brodeur? Hasek is ma boi
- DeflatedPucks


I don't really see how Brodeur isn't considered at the least Top 5.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jan 3 @ 8:39 PM ET
https://www.sportingcharts.com/stats/nhl/all-time/career-goalie-shootout-save-percentage/
- Feds91Stammer

I mean when you filter out the dudes that faced less than 50 shootout shots, he's pretty high up there. Higher if you filter out dudes that faced less than 100. Flower's shootout performance is something I'll never knock him over.
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