Currently yes.... he had a shaky but promising start. Then he decided to jump the shark over and over again.
- Reveen.

No he really didnt. I went over some trades hes made since 2011, jesus. Not sure how he is still in the nhl.
The Oilers have to get rid of him.

Nothing quite like watching a divisional rival intentionally get easier to play against.

Unreal how a team that had easily the deepest, most skilled forward core in the league only a few years ago turned into a depth-less shell.

Outside of McDavid, Drai and Nuge, that roster is hard to look at lol.

No he really didnt. I went over some trades hes made since 2011, jesus. Not sure how he is still in the nhl.
The Oilers have to get rid of him.
- Fakepartofme

The first two years, while there were questionable moves (one would say stupid) were decent. Probably would have made the playoffs had McDavid & Klefbom not got injured in the first season. Second season they made it because like everyone stayed healthy.

After that it went downhill.

I don't know how you can defend him. Even good trades like the Kassian one end up being poop because he overpays players.

Nothing quite like watching a divisional rival intentionally get easier to play against.

Unreal how a team that had easily the deepest, most skilled forward core in the league only a few years ago turned into a depth-less shell.

Outside of McDavid, Drai and Nuge, that roster is hard to look at lol.
- Whiskey-Tango

I’m thinking Chiarelli thought the team needed more tension in the dressing room!! I can just imagine what the players are saying amongst themselves……is he trying to fuk up this team?? Is he trying to see how far He can’t go before He gets fired he is a joke. Good luck getting another gm’s Job elsewhere when the organization finally fires him hahaha

I think EDM fans have every reason to be emotional about this. As a Canuck fan, i would try and relate this to the Canucks immediately obtaining Mike Matheson, or going out at getting Duncan Keith after he concussed Daniel Sedin. Matheson being a better comparable because he isn't a good defender, and back when Keith elbowed Sedin, he was a much better defender than what he is now. Either way, the losses from an oiler perspective is essentially a higher 3rd round pick. I still think Wideman is a better overall NHL defenseman in all aspects of the position than both Petrovic and Manning, but thats just my personal opinion.
- Codes1087

The 3rd round pick was the thing I didn’t like about the deal....Wideman wasn’t doing much here and I didn’t see Edmonton keeping him after the season so whatever....Petrovic is also a UFA after the season so it won’t hurt us in the long run.....the Manning deal wasn’t good.....even tho I was in favour of ditching Caggiula and Garrison the fact is that Manning is having a terrible season....I don’t see how he helps even in the slightest.....even if McDavid gave his blessing I can’t imagine how Chia seen anything in Manning that helps us now....I’m pretty certain he isn’t even done making moves yet so more hilarity could be on its way

No he really didnt. I went over some trades hes made since 2011, jesus. Not sure how he is still in the nhl.
The Oilers have to get rid of him.
- Fakepartofme

Stating the obvious there.....this team is no better today then it was when he first took over....some might argue it’s worse.....certainly not the definition of doing a good job

The 3rd round pick was the thing I didn’t like about the deal....Wideman wasn’t doing much here and I didn’t see Edmonton keeping him after the season so whatever....Petrovic is also a UFA after the season so it won’t hurt us in the long run.....the Manning deal wasn’t good.....even tho I was in favour of ditching Caggiula and Garrison the fact is that Manning is having a terrible season....I don’t see how he helps even in the slightest.....even if McDavid gave his blessing I can’t imagine how Chia seen anything in Manning that helps us now....I’m pretty certain he isn’t even done making moves yet so more hilarity could be on its way
- RatedR80

all in all, these are very minor moves. These aren't significant/impact moves by any means. You shed 1.5 AAV in Cagguila but gain 2.25 in Manning. The 3rd round pick is a bit concerning, cause its a high price for lower end talent, and the "gains" are very short term. These moves aren't going to make your team drastically better, or worse for that matter, but the biggest question mark for me would be why? Manning has a horrible history with your generational talent captain, why even contemplate bringing in that player, with his skillset, to be a 6th/7th/8th D man. It just makes no sense, is bad PR, i imagine is going to be bad in the dressing room (half the team hates Manning). Its just a head scratcher move, with a net negative value (loss of the 3rd round pick), and you took on more cap. Either way, I imagine PC isn't done, but hopefully he doesn't sarcrifice more picks for mediocre talent, for your guy's sake.

The first two years, while there were questionable moves (one would say stupid) were decent. Probably would have made the playoffs had McDavid & Klefbom not got injured in the first season. Second season they made it because like everyone stayed healthy.

After that it went downhill.

I don't know how you can defend him. Even good trades like the Kassian one end up being poop because he overpays players.
- Oilers4Life14

They made it because Talbot stood on his head and guys like Maroon has career years....the next year everyone came crashing down to earth because they couldn’t sustain that type of production....literally caught lightning in a bottle and Chia did nothing that off season to add....Lucic had 23 goals that year....where is he now? Maroon had 27 what happened to him? Same with Letestu.....it wasn’t sustainable and nothing was done to help the cause

all in all, these are very minor moves. These aren't significant/impact moves by any means. You shed 1.5 AAV in Cagguila but gain 2.25 in Manning. The 3rd round pick is a bit concerning, cause its a high price for lower end talent, and the gains are very short term. These moves aren't going to make your team drastically better, or worse for that matter, but the biggest question mark for me would be why? Manning has a horrible history with your generational talent captain, why even contemplate bringing in that player, with his skillset, to be a 6th/7th/8th D man. It just makes no sense, is bad PR, i imagine is going to be bad in the dressing room (half the team hates Manning). Its just a head scratcher move, with a net negative value (loss of the 3rd round pick), and you took on more cap. Either way, I imagine PC isn't done, but hopefully he doesn't sarcrifice more picks for mediocre talent, for your guy's sake.
- Codes1087

These moves don’t make us a better team....it’s a desperate GM trying to fill holes to save his ass and they aren’t very good moves and we both agree he isn’t done yet....he can’t be because he has to shed money so he can fit Sekera back in within the next 30 days....I would love nothing more then to see Chia fired before he can do anymore damage but if that was the case then why haven’t Katz and Nicholson stepped in yet? Instead they are just sitting back and allowing him to make these moves.....I don’t know what to tell people I don’t....if I was a fan of another team I would be laughing at us too

Maybe it’s Hitchcock?? Chiarelli should fire him…put Kevin Lowe

I think EDM fans have every reason to be emotional about this. As a Canuck fan, i would try and relate this to the Canucks immediately obtaining Mike Matheson, or going out at getting Duncan Keith after he concussed Daniel Sedin. Matheson being a better comparable because he isn't a good defender, and back when Keith elbowed Sedin, he was a much better defender than what he is now. Either way, the losses from an oiler perspective is essentially a higher 3rd round pick. I still think Wideman is a better overall NHL defenseman in all aspects of the position than both Petrovic and Manning, but thats just my personal opinion.
- Codes1087

Wow!!! Matheson is a VERY good defenseman! Are you really not seeing this because he made an overly aggressive play on your 150lber? That's quite a bit more blind homerism than anything I've heard from other teams' fans recently.

These moves don’t make us a better team....it’s a desperate GM trying to fill holes to save his ass and they aren’t very good moves and we both agree he isn’t done yet....he can’t be because he has to shed money so he can fit Sekera back in within the next 30 days....I would love nothing more then to see Chia fired before he can do anymore damage but if that was the case then why haven’t Katz and Nicholson stepped in yet? Instead they are just sitting back and allowing him to make these moves.....I don’t know what to tell people I don’t....if I was a fan of another team I would be laughing at us too
- RatedR80

it is what it is. Definitely not hear to rub salt in the wound, but I would definitely be frustrated too. No matter how you spin it, its not a good look/trade.

Wow!!! Matheson is a VERY good defenseman! Are you really not seeing this because he made an overly aggressive play on your 150lber? That's quite a bit more blind homerism than anything I've heard from other teams' fans recently.
- JLO961

Petey is listed at 178 lbs. I agree to disagree on Matheson. And, I would write down every player in the league who weighs less but it would take too long. He was thrown, on a suspendable play, not a legal one. You are going off topic though. My point was acquiring a player who injured your star player immediately after.

Petey is listed at 178 lbs. I agree to disagree on Matheson. And, I would write down every player in the league who weighs less but it would take too long. He was thrown, on a suspendable play, not a legal one. You are going off topic though. My point was acquiring a player who injured your star player immediately after.
- Codes1087

yeah, sorry about that, but after the Matheson comment I've got to be out of this one...

it is what it is. Definitely not hear to rub salt in the wound, but I would definitely be frustrated too. No matter how you spin it, its not a good look/trade.
- Codes1087

Plus Manning is a left hand shot.....we need another one of those like we need a hole in the head and in terms of left hand shots he is probably the worst on our current roster

“Manning was a victim of circumstances with regard to the coaching change, which is why he wasn’t playing much in Chicago”, Chiarelli said.

No Chia he wasn’t playing because he was terrible....numbers don’t lie

“Chiarelli said that Kevin Gravel has done well for the Oilers but Manning is more established, he’s better with the puck and “he’s meaner.””

No Chia.....I’m willing to bet that Gravel has had the better year and is certainly cheaper

“Brandon Manning had a good year last year. He’s a third-pair ‘D’ and he’s got an edge, he’s got a little bit of offence to his game, he defends well, that’s the book on him. There’s a bit of a change of scenery aspect here but we felt he would help our group.“

Why bother commenting....

yeah, I think you are 100% correct, but there have been some injuries that need to be addresed in the short term and I also think Hitchcock has told the GM about a few players that he won't play. I honestly have never seen Manning or Petrovic play, that I can recall, but maybe they'll play better D for Hitch. I'm not pounding the table saying "what a great move", just trying to be a voice of reason in a VERY emotional chat board. I'd be Manning comes out as the best player in the trade. I don't like what he did to McDavid, but I DO like that he showed emotion like that. Not every player in the league blows kisses to the opposing players in a scrum. haha
- JLO961

You probably shouldn't be expecting much from a player that his last two fanbases were relieved to get rid of. He'll show some emotion for sure, but he's simply not an effective hockey player.

Best guess at lineup tonight after optional skate:
Lucic-McDavid-Rattie
Rieder-Draisaitl-Spooner
Khaira-RNH-Puljujarvi
Gambardella-Brodziak-Kassian

Nurse-Petrovic
Manning-Larsson
Jones-Benning

Koskinen #Oilers
Again this is just a guess. Unsure of 1LW, but top pair is for sure


If these are indeed the line ups for tonight we are in for a treat.....Lucic back to the top line

Best guess at lineup tonight after optional skate:
Lucic-McDavid-Rattie
Rieder-Draisaitl-Spooner
Khaira-RNH-Puljujarvi
Gambardella-Brodziak-Kassian

Nurse-Petrovic
Manning-Larsson
Jones-Benning

Koskinen #Oilers
Again this is just a guess. Unsure of 1LW, but top pair is for sure


If these are indeed the line ups for tonight we are in for a treat.....Lucic back to the top line
- RatedR80

oh my

the only time Manning has looked semi-decent has been when he was paired with a puck mover

oh my

the only time Manning has looked semi-decent has been when he was paired with a puck mover
- Nucker101

It shall be interesting if they run with those lines....well good news is Buff won’t be playing tonight

yeah, sorry about that, but after the Matheson comment I've got to be out of this one...
- JLO961

lol you got a little excited about a difference of opinion I noticed. Again, I am not here to rub salt in the wound, but just to talk hockey. I am not a Matheson fan strictly based off playing style. Hes not a dirty player, not a mean spirited person. His statistics/analytics are completely separate, despite overlying evidence that support my claim, that he isn't that good of a defender. Either way, my point was strictly compare the scenarios about an opposing player injuring a star, and then obtaining them shortly thereafter. That is all.

lol you got a little excited about a difference of opinion I noticed. Again, I am not here to rub salt in the wound, but just to talk hockey. I am not a Matheson fan strictly based off playing style. Hes not a dirty player, not a mean spirited person. His statistics/analytics are completely separate, despite overlying evidence that support my claim, that he isn't that good of a defender. Either way, my point was strictly compare the scenarios about an opposing player injuring a star, and then obtaining them shortly thereafter. That is all.
- Codes1087

He’s a decent puck mover but definitely not a shutdown dman. If that’s what that dude you’re quoting is implying then he’s never seen him play with the Panthers.

The most pathetic stat I've read in a while:

We're now heading into the New Year with no natural wingers that have scored at least 4 goals.

The most pathetic stat I've read in a while:

We're now heading into the New Year with no natural wingers that have scored at least 4 goals.
- MaximumBone

wow

No he really didnt. I went over some trades hes made since 2011, jesus. Not sure how he is still in the nhl.
The Oilers have to get rid of him.
- Fakepartofme

He assembled a team that made the playoffs for the first time in 10 years. Yeah he mad some questionable deals by that point but he went full retard starting with the Eberle trade.

The most pathetic stat I've read in a while:

We're now heading into the New Year with no natural wingers that have scored at least 4 goals.
- MaximumBone

oh my