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Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Dec 29 @ 11:12 AM ET

Farabee was one the smoothest skaters on the ice. Puck skills and skating dont change because you're playing inferior competition. I was more impressed with him than frost so far. Frost has had a good tournament but Farabee just makes things look effortless. And cates looks like a pit bull who works every second hes on the ice. St ivany, o'Brien looked like works in progress as are all these kids. I would absolutely be excited for our kids showing up on the biggest stage of their young careers.

I would trade an awful lot for benn. Since 2013 he has missed 6 games due to injury. Hes scored 34+ goals in 4 of his last 5 seasons. This year hes playing "like horsepoop" and has 15 and 15 and a +6. His cap hit is only 9.5 million. Him and Giroux on the same line (yes this move leaves g at center longer) might be one the most elite combos in the game up there with Stamkos kucherov. Name a price I'll likely match it.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Dec 29 @ 11:16 AM ET
Florida missing Bjugstad, Trocheck, and MacKenzie helps a bit, but their first line and Lu are fully capable of beating the Flyers if they don’t bring their A game. Road trips to Tampa/Miami are always tough for this team.
- Marc D


Yes they are. Overall I was happy with the effort vs Tampa. That's an elite team which should come out of the east this year. Need a similar effort tonight vs flo Rida.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Dec 29 @ 11:18 AM ET
Farabee was one the smoothest skaters on the ice. Puck skills and skating dont change because you're playing inferior competition. I was more impressed with him than frost so far. Frost has had a good tournament but Farabee just makes things look effortless. And cates looks like a pit bull who works every second hes on the ice. St ivany, o'Brien looked like works in progress as are all these kids. I would absolutely be excited for our kids showing up on the biggest stage of their young careers.

I would trade an awful lot for benn. Since 2013 he has missed 6 games due to injury. Hes scored 34+ goals in 4 of his last 5 seasons. This year hes playing "like horsepoop" and has 15 and 15 and a +6. His cap hit is only 9.5 million. Him and Giroux on the same line (yes this move leaves g at center longer) might be one the most elite combos in the game up there with Stamkos kucherov. Name a price I'll likely match it.

- Tfaehner


That might be the type of chemistry altering move we need. I would also pay highly for him.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Dec 29 @ 11:24 AM ET
Today might be a fantastic day for the Flyers. A win will leapfrog them above up to 4 teams(DET, FLA, NYR, CAR)

Montreal who has played 1 game more than the Flyers plays Tampa as part of a back to back.

Bruins who played 2 games more than Flyers play Buffalo

Isles 5 points ahead play the Leafs

Rangers 2 points ahead play Nashville

A Florida win will be HUMONGOUS BIG!
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Dec 29 @ 11:24 AM ET
Let's put in this way: if the competition is bad and they WEREN'T playing this well you'd be concerned right?

You want your good players beating up on the weak.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Dec 29 @ 12:06 PM ET
Let's put in this way: if the competition is bad and they WEREN'T playing this well you'd be concerned right?

You want your good players beating up on the weak.

- Pelle31Forever


You can only play who is in front of you.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Dec 29 @ 12:07 PM ET
Playing Raffl with Weal makes zero sense.
Two bottom lines are messed up.
Let Laughton play with Raffl and Weal only as winger he is useless as center

- goenzoy


Flyers hot take for today:

Other than Captain Claude, Scott Laughton has been the best Flyers forward.

Change my mind.
missingmike
Joined: 07.08.2011

Dec 29 @ 12:12 PM ET
Weal is useless anywhere you play him
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Indeed
ajw12
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.27.2017

Dec 29 @ 12:13 PM ET
Can we trade for horsepoop Jamie Benn plz?
- hereticpride


I'd rather have horsepoop Tyler Seguin...
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Dec 29 @ 12:53 PM ET

I've seen a few different sources saying fletcher primary focus on dealing simmer and acquiring a top 4 d man as he hasn't liked the goalie market.

Any one have anything credible about it ? Simmer keeps linking to Boston but I'd hate to trade him to a team were chasing.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Dec 29 @ 1:13 PM ET
I've seen a few different sources saying fletcher primary focus on dealing simmer and acquiring a top 4 d man as he hasn't liked the goalie market.

Any one have anything credible about it ? Simmer keeps linking to Boston but I'd hate to trade him to a team were chasing.

- Tfaehner


I think its credible. No point and adding a goalie. Hart is doing good, Elliott will be back soon. Stolarz is another solid option once he is healthy. Question really comes down to what happens when Elliot is healthy. Does Neuvirth get sent down or Hart?

I would deal Simmonds to anyone. I am not a fan of him. To me he is a glorified 3rd line player who makes good use of his PP time. The reality of it is we get a Top 4 Dman and not have to play AMac or Folin is benefit enough. AMac can be a solid Dman but his inconsistency is off the chart. Plays good one year, awful the next, good the year after and awful again the next. We need to deal him now before he comes and has another good year next season and gets re-signed
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Dec 29 @ 1:13 PM ET
Everyone keeps saying Bobby Lou but he played last night. I'd expect Reimer
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Dec 29 @ 1:14 PM ET
I think its credible. No point and adding a goalie. Hart is doing good, Elliott will be back soon. Stolarz is another solid option once he is healthy. Question really comes down to what happens when Elliot is healthy. Does Neuvirth get sent down or Hart?

I would deal Simmonds to anyone. I am not a fan of him. To me he is a glorified 3rd line player who makes good use of his PP time. The reality of it is we get a Top 4 Dman and not have to play AMac or Folin is benefit enough. AMac can be a solid Dman but his inconsistency is off the chart. Plays good one year, awful the next, good the year after and awful again the next. We need to deal him now before he comes and has another good year next season and gets re-signed

- xShoot4WarAmpsx

The question will be Stolie or Neuvy I thought. Isn't Stolie closer than Elliott?
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Dec 29 @ 1:20 PM ET
The question will be Stolie or Neuvy I thought. Isn't Stolie closer than Elliott?
- dragonoffrost


Stoly is closer. Neuvirth game 1 was good. Neuvirth game 2 was above average. Hart been good. That's not a clear enough out playing of neuvirth that hart has to stay imo. And hes the only one waiver exempt. In that scenario nobody wants to hear it but hart goes back down.
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Dec 29 @ 1:25 PM ET
I think its credible. No point and adding a goalie. Hart is doing good, Elliott will be back soon. Stolarz is another solid option once he is healthy. Question really comes down to what happens when Elliot is healthy. Does Neuvirth get sent down or Hart?

I would deal Simmonds to anyone. I am not a fan of him. To me he is a glorified 3rd line player who makes good use of his PP time. The reality of it is we get a Top 4 Dman and not have to play AMac or Folin is benefit enough. AMac can be a solid Dman but his inconsistency is off the chart. Plays good one year, awful the next, good the year after and awful again the next. We need to deal him now before he comes and has another good year next season and gets re-signed

- xShoot4WarAmpsx


Yeah I would prefer someone low cost. Maybe Martinez. For simmer I think the goal was jvr upgraded that role. So trade him to the highest bidder. And than I hope this off season we upgrade on Jake with stone or panarin than do the same thing with Jake. Trade him.to the highest bidder.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Dec 29 @ 1:27 PM ET
Stoly is closer. Neuvirth game 1 was good. Neuvirth game 2 was above average. Hart been good. That's not a clear enough out playing of neuvirth that hart has to stay imo. And hes the only one waiver exempt. In that scenario nobody wants to hear it but hart goes back down.
- Tfaehner

Money could speak. Fans will probably bail if Hart is sent back. The casual fan doesn't want to see average goalies unless he's one of them. They'd rather see the kid even if he struggles rather than the others.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Dec 29 @ 1:53 PM ET
Money could speak. Fans will probably bail if Hart is sent back. The casual fan doesn't want to see average goalies unless he's one of them. They'd rather see the kid even if he struggles rather than the others.
- dragonoffrost


A young, failing team is exciting to folks.

An older, failing team sucks and is boring.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Dec 29 @ 1:59 PM ET
There has been no easy games since the Islanders slightly improved and Atlanta became Winnipeg.
- SuperSchennBros


Haaa exactly
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Dec 29 @ 2:11 PM ET
Money could speak. Fans will probably bail if Hart is sent back. The casual fan doesn't want to see average goalies unless he's one of them. They'd rather see the kid even if he struggles rather than the others.
- dragonoffrost


Definitely could be right. But a winning team if its winning with neuvirth and stoly will have fan support. A losing team with neuvirth stoly wont.
cdearth23
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wilkes-Barre, PA
Joined: 08.06.2015

Dec 29 @ 2:27 PM ET
Definitely could be right. But a winning team if its winning with neuvirth and stoly will have fan support. A losing team with neuvirth stoly wont.
- Tfaehner


Until we can deal one of Nuevy and/or Elliott, Hart gets sent down. Can't imagine we expose a goalie on waivers.
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Dec 29 @ 2:30 PM ET
Until we can deal one of Nuevy and/or Elliott, Hart gets sent down. Can't imagine we expose a goalie on waivers.
- cdearth23


Everything bill has said I dont think elliot will be back any time soon
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Dec 29 @ 3:25 PM ET
What do you guys think of a potential deal with Carolina? Maybe something like:

To CAR: Simmonds(Signed) & (Elliott or Neuvirth)
To PHI: (Faulk or D.Hamilton) & Darling(25% retained)
cdearth23
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wilkes-Barre, PA
Joined: 08.06.2015

Dec 29 @ 3:27 PM ET
Everything bill has said I dont think elliot will be back any time soon
- Tfaehner


And I don't think Nuevy has much value unless part of a deal.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 29 @ 3:38 PM ET
What do you guys think of a potential deal with Carolina? Maybe something like:

To CAR: Simmonds(Signed) & (Elliott or Neuvirth)
To PHI: (Faulk or D.Hamilton) & Darling(25% retained)

- xShoot4WarAmpsx


I don't think they'd do Hamilton for all of that...unless you signed Simmonds for league minimum.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Dec 29 @ 3:48 PM ET
I don't think they'd do Hamilton for all of that...unless you signed Simmonds for league minimum.
- jmatchett383


I dont know Hamilton seems to be in the dog house. For a guy who was the top D in CGY he seems like a huge step back to be CAR 3rd pair guy and 2nd PP unit behind Faulk
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