oilpatch
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Location: BC Joined: 01.23.2014
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McDavid for Sequin and Benn  - K-man25
Damn...I hate myself for even thinking about it |
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RatedR80
Edmonton Oilers |
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Joined: 10.17.2013
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RatedR80
Edmonton Oilers |
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Joined: 10.17.2013
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Chia rolled the dice... Expecting Lucic could contribute close to Hall, hence Larsonn and Lucic to replace Hall could have been a good move...
He failed ..... - oilpatch
His dice rolling skills need work....more times then not it’s blown up in his face
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K-man25
Calgary Flames |
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Location: K Town Joined: 09.02.2014
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Well not that level of stupid  - RatedR80
Yeah, even Chia wouldn't trade for Seguin! |
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thegooddr
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Location: edm, AB Joined: 06.21.2013
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This team still has Lowe’s fingerprints all over it. Cronyism running rampant through the club. Tank another year and keep the loosing culture which has festered for the last 12 years. “Someday a real rain will come and wash all the scum off the streets.” |
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Got to love thoughtful, insightful, even brilliant commentary like this blog.
Because I'm sure you missed it that's sarcasm.
Handed the keys to the Ferrari... A perennial bottom feeder team with THE worst defense in the league, an aversion to systematic play, and weak goaltending to boot. If that's your idea of a Ferrari God help you.
This team does not need more lottery draft picks. This team needs playoff experience. Whether they get into the playoffs by one point or leads the league that does not matter.
Put your Chiarelli hate back into your pants and just try to use your brain. The Oilers have more elite picks than any 2 franchises should. Missing the playoffs for any reason is extremely counter productive.
On top of that. Chiarelli for all his many faults has a far better success rate than anyone else in a decade.
I also personally fear what joker the OBC come up to replace Chiarelli with to somehow actually make the team worse. As is thier track record.
I also notice that commentary like this is always suspiciously lacking on what actually can even be realistically done to change the team to magically restore the Ferrari level that Chiarelli somehow demolished.
One thing history has taught me in this organization is that change for the sake of change can make a bad team even worse. - Aerchon
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Great to read some of your thoughts on how to change the team. My question for all of you.... do you believe current management is capable of making any of these changes? - freelancer
They wouldn’t have a snowballs chance in hell. |
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RatedR80
Edmonton Oilers |
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Joined: 10.17.2013
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They wouldn’t have a snowballs chance in hell. - Wildschwein
Blow up management!!....its the best thing really
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RatedR80
Edmonton Oilers |
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Joined: 10.17.2013
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Don’t think this was mentioned but Chiasson on IR and Yamamoto recalled.....8 points in 11 games for the Condors since being sent down |
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Don’t think this was mentioned but Chiasson on IR and Yamamoto recalled.....8 points in 11 games for the Condors since being sent down - RatedR80
And we’re pretty much back to the roster that began the season, excepting Russell and Klefbom of course. |
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RatedR80
Edmonton Oilers |
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Joined: 10.17.2013
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And we’re pretty much back to the roster that began the season, excepting Russell and Klefbom of course. - Wildschwein
Figured they were going to recall him sooner then later....he might even get to play on the top line
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Figured they were going to recall him sooner then later....he might even get to play on the top line - RatedR80
Suppose so.
Nuge-McDavid-Yamamoto
Khaira-Draisaitl-Puljujarvi
Lucic-Brodziak-Kassian
Caggiula-Spooner-Rattie
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HB77
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid Joined: 02.20.2007
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Got to love thoughtful, insightful, even brilliant commentary like this blog.
Because I'm sure you missed it that's sarcasm.
Handed the keys to the Ferrari... A perennial bottom feeder team with THE worst defense in the league, an aversion to systematic play, and weak goaltending to boot. If that's your idea of a Ferrari God help you.
hall entering his prime. on one of the best contracts in the league. ebs and nuge beginning prime. just won the lottery for the best player in the world. had leon in the stables from the previous year, a few years of development for klefbom. and a couple years of development for nurse.
this is so much more than any gm in the last 25 years has had, its hard to even bother wasting ones time arguing with your empty headed idiocy.
oh, and zero cap issues as well.
what has he done since with all those assets? traded some away for MASSIVE losses in value gutting high end depth. handcuffed the cap with maybe the worst contract in the league (among others) and downgraded talent.
and we still have a mediocre defence. only difference now we dont have any proven scoring wingers either!
and we dont have an ounce of cap left, but still arent above a middling team. One that has finished in a lottery spot twice in 4 years.
did i mention this is all with the best player in the world on his squad ?
This team does not need more lottery draft picks. This team needs playoff experience. Whether they get into the playoffs by one point or leads the league that does not matter.
we didnt decide on a rebuild in 2010 so that nine years later we could be once again a mediocre team hoping to squeak into the playoffs every couple years. we did it so we could gain the talent to be elite. and chiarelli is destroying the entire point of all the god awful losing for it.
no, we didnt already have an elite team. far from it. but all the losing had finally given us the core of assets where we could build around and get there.
Worst part is is took way longer to accrue them all than alot of teams have. Didn’t take him long to gut it tho.
besides, dude doesnt wanna miss for the picks, he wants to miss because he doesnt trust the idiots surrouding/above pc that some small modicum of success in a mediocre division wont convince them that hes actually done a good job. how was this not clear?
Put your Chiarelli hate back into your pants and just try to use your brain. The Oilers have more elite picks than any 2 franchises should. Missing the playoffs for any reason is extremely counter productive.
everyone wants success. but we need someone to clean up his mess and stamp out his handicapped version of "the plan" which seems to be half a decade too late and no longer relevant. How the fuk are people defending being a bubble team nine years after declaring a rebuild!? Insanity.
On top of that. Chiarelli for all his many faults has a far better success rate than anyone else in a decade.
because he was given far more. but really, the one year of success was mostly down to connor mcdavid and cam talbot playing out of their minds and carrying a team that had a ton of luck and were inordinately healthy all year. this isnt some sort of gm brilliance. it was all unsustainable. and the proof is the year and half since
I also personally fear what joker the OBC come up to replace Chiarelli with to somehow actually make the team worse. As is thier track record.
I also notice that commentary like this is always suspiciously lacking on what actually can even be realistically done to change the team to magically restore the Ferrari level that Chiarelli somehow demolished.
fire chiarelli
get rid of lucic
get rid of one of seks or russel
get rid of as much deadweight as possible
protect your cap space and spend wisely on PROVEN talent
these are the first moves that need to be made, but he probably set us back a few years, so theres plenty more as well
One thing history has taught me in this organization is that change for the sake of change can make a bad team even worse.
the irony of you attempting to call anyone else out for lacking insight or thoughtfulness is thick as fuk. and that wasnt sarcasm... - Aerchon |
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RatedR80
Edmonton Oilers |
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Joined: 10.17.2013
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Suppose so.
Nuge-McDavid-Yamamoto
Khaira-Draisaitl-Puljujarvi
Lucic-Brodziak-Kassian
Caggiula-Spooner-Rattie
? - Wildschwein
From what I understand (this was before the injury to Chiasson) Hitch wanted to go with Khaira-Nuge-Puju.....he felt like they could be a line that can get it done.....if nothing changes then maybe Yamamoto gets a shot right away....hard to say how he will do it with Chiasson being hurt now |
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From what I understand (this was before the injury to Chiasson) Hitch wanted to go with Khaira-Nuge-Puju.....he felt like they could be a line that can get it done.....if nothing changes then maybe Yamamoto gets a shot right away....hard to say how he will do it with Chiasson being hurt now - RatedR80
Well I cannot argue with the effectiveness of Khaira-Nuge-Puljujarvi. They’ve been a solid second line thus far. |
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RatedR80
Edmonton Oilers |
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Joined: 10.17.2013
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Well I cannot argue with the effectiveness of Khaira-Nuge-Puljujarvi. They’ve been a solid second line thus far. - Wildschwein
They have been good and he seemed excited to have Khaira back for that reason....as long as it’s not Lucic with the dynamic duo tomorrow night then they should be ok
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RatedR80
Edmonton Oilers |
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Joined: 10.17.2013
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Well I cannot argue with the effectiveness of Khaira-Nuge-Puljujarvi. They’ve been a solid second line thus far. - Wildschwein
Drai-McDavid-Rattie
Caggiula-Nuge-Puju
Lucic-Khaira-Spooner
Reider-Brodziak-Kassian
Nurse-Larsson
Garrison-Russell
Jones-Benning
Gravel-Wideman
Oh dear was I wrong.....
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RatedR80
Edmonton Oilers |
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Joined: 10.17.2013
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Sekera might not actually be ready to play until the end of January so pretty much the same time that Klefbom is due back......here is a fun Chia fact....of all of our top 5 players Chia has drafted one of them who happened to be the biggest no brainer ever |
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RafiDRW
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: Bill Cosby’s Magic Wiener #FireBlashill, TN Joined: 04.16.2016
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No one wants to tank, we want Chiarelli gone. If Katz wasn't such a putz and just fired people that failed at their jobs, then we wouldn't have to consider missing the playoffs to be rid of Peter. I'll happily take JUST missing the playoffs and not moving up in the lottery if it gets rid of Chiarelli. I'd happily except making the playoffs and losing in the first round if it gets rid of Chiarelli.
I'd sacrifice three of my favourite goats if it brought Yzerman to the post  - MaximumBone
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Djmbrown
Calgary Flames |
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Location: AB Joined: 02.07.2015
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If I were an Oilers fan I’d be less worried about whether Chia-pet was fired or not at season’s end and MORE worried if he still has his job come trade deadline day.
Chia has made arguably some of the worst collection of trades and signings by any GM in the past decade. Oh and he did that while feeling no pressure to protect his job. This year he’s gotta know he’s on borrowed time. So a Chia who’s desperate to do something drastic to keep his job is something to be afraid of Edmonton. Be very afraid.
If I were a fan I’d be starting a hashtag fire Chia-pet campaign as of yesterday because while your team has a lot of holes to fill, it could always get even worse. |
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benmacw
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: edmonton, AB Joined: 01.09.2013
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If I were an Oilers fan I’d be less worried about whether Chia-pet was fired or not at season’s end and MORE worried if he still has his job come trade deadline day.
Chia has made arguably some of the worst collection of trades and signings by any GM in the past decade. Oh and he did that while feeling no pressure to protect his job. This year he’s gotta know he’s on borrowed time. So a Chia who’s desperate to do something drastic to keep his job is something to be afraid of Edmonton. Be very afraid.
If I were a fan I’d be starting a hashtag fire Chia-pet campaign as of yesterday because while your team has a lot of holes to fill, it could always get even worse. - Djmbrown I honestly dont believe we have that many holes, we are short 2 NHL wingers and maybe a #1 Dman which of course is not something you just trade Khaira and a first to get lol To get what we need we would need to trade away 2 or 3 pieces that would create 2 or 3 more holes. Edmonton is probably one of the worst places in the league for attracting high end players who actually WANT to come here. That pretty much leaves us only the draft and big trades to bring in players. I dont put 100% of this problem on Chia, I think it would take a beautiful mind to be able to win trades in a city like this. That being said, 2 or 3 of his trades hurt this team more than it helped, and I dont believe the hall trade was one of those. Eberle trade sucked, GR trade sucked, Strome trade sucked to name a few lol
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Djmbrown
Calgary Flames |
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Location: AB Joined: 02.07.2015
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I honestly dont believe we have that many holes, we are short 2 NHL wingers and maybe a #1 Dman which of course is not something you just trade Khaira and a first to get lol To get what we need we would need to trade away 2 or 3 pieces that would create 2 or 3 more holes. Edmonton is probably one of the worst places in the league for attracting high end players who actually WANT to come here. That pretty much leaves us only the draft and big trades to bring in players. I dont put 100% of this problem on Chia, I think it would take a beautiful mind to be able to win trades in a city like this. That being said, 2 or 3 of his trades hurt this team more than it helped, and I dont believe the hall trade was one of those. Eberle trade sucked, GR trade sucked, Strome trade sucked to name a few lol - benmacw
Ya I think you’d be hard pressed to name a trade Chia has won with the Oil. I disagree with the Hall deal. He traded away an NHL MVP for a 2/3 Dman. Taylor Hall should have fetched you Drew Doughty or something similar.
Your biggest need at the time of the Hall deal was to fix your D. That’s still your biggest need so he’s downgraded your wings massively and not still hasn’t fixed the main problem you had in the first place. That’s called being inept at your job. If the Oil brass wasn’t too busy partying and actually paid attention to what the GM was doing he would have been fired long long ago.
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benmacw
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: edmonton, AB Joined: 01.09.2013
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Ya I think you’d be hard pressed to name a trade Chia has won with the Oil. I disagree with the Hall deal. He traded away an NHL MVP for a 2/3 Dman. Taylor Hall should have fetched you Drew Doughty or something similar.
Your biggest need at the time of the Hall deal was to fix your D. That’s still your biggest need so he’s downgraded your wings massively and not still hasn’t fixed the main problem you had in the first place. That’s called being inept at your job. If the Oil brass wasn’t too busy partying and actually paid attention to what the GM was doing he would have been fired long long ago. - Djmbrown
If hall gets us Doughty that deal would have been made. So much easier on this side of the chair aint it.This aint NHL18 where you can just trade players based on their in game ratings for value lol Im sure they didnt just look at AL and say, thats the guy I will try for no one else. Im sure they inquired about all available avenues and thats what they could get. If doughty didnt want to come here (who the (frank) would leave LA to come to edmonton?) then theres nothing anyone can do about that. |
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5Hole Mgee
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: edmonton, AB Joined: 09.24.2018
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