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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Dec 28 @ 6:59 PM ET
I'm not head over heels in love with skinner, especially not for 8 years at over 8m aav. This little honeymoon is fun to watch but lets be realistic. He really is a pretty one dimensional player, he is a finisher. Of course you need guys like that but I really don't think teams are going to line up to give him >8mx7years. His passing leaves a lot to be desired and his current shooting percentage isn't sustainable. I'm not hating on him. It is what it is. He is fun to watch in this setting. If you have a chance at a guy of Seguins caliber it's a pretty easy decision for me.
- TheHank

I just think it costs too much

from a cap point and what it costs to get him


assuming he can be had in a trade

I prefer something cheaper like schenn, but I don't see anything happening even on this level right now
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Dec 28 @ 6:59 PM ET
I guess we view sheary different

I see the player the pens demoted to the 4th line

- homiedclown


No we see the same player. Sheary has always been a 4th line player. Crosby made lemonade out of crap. Skinner scored 24 goals all of last year and already has 26 this year. Skinner has always been a great goal scorer don’t get me wrong, but sure as heck has never scored 50+ like he’ll do this year. I’m sure if Sheary played a full 82 games with Eichel he’d score 25. Pominville even has 9 goals this year for crying out loud.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Dec 28 @ 6:59 PM ET
no big loss for the bruins IMO
- homiedclown


I thought that dude retired Lol

TheHank
Location: Yawn.
Joined: 01.11.2017

Dec 28 @ 7:00 PM ET
I just think it costs too much

from a cap point and what it costs to get him


assuming he can be had in a trade

I prefer something cheaper like schenn, but I don't see anything happening even on this level right now

- homiedclown

Its a pipe dream. Meh.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Dec 28 @ 7:01 PM ET
Scott Wilson, Connor Sheary, Get two elite centres and guys will produce.
- Pegullaville

SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Dec 28 @ 7:02 PM ET
unless they want to blow it up, pretty sure they don't want to do that
- homiedclown

What he said is one way to fire the team up
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Dec 28 @ 7:04 PM ET
No we see the same player. Sheary has always been a 4th line player. Crosby made lemonade out of crap. Skinner scored 24 goals all of last year and already has 26 this year. Skinner has always been a great goal scorer don’t get me wrong, but sure as heck has never scored 50+ like he’ll do this year. I’m sure if Sheary played a full 82 games with Eichel he’d score 25. Pominville even has 9 goals this year for crying out loud.
- Pegullaville

so we have a guy who might score 50 goals this season, and replace him with sheary, who the pens themselves demoted to the 4th line for poor play


and the pens had to go out and get kessel to make this work

if your moving skunk and skinner, who is putting up the points for 2 lines?

not sheary or wilson
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Dec 28 @ 7:04 PM ET
If Seguin is actually on the trade block you have to make a play for him IMO before a team like Montreal does.

Eichel and Seguin would be the modern day Crosby and Malkin IMO.

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Dec 28 @ 7:04 PM ET
What he said is one way to fire the team up
- SABRES 89

how the the sabres respond if pegula said skinner has been blah the last few games in public?
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Dec 28 @ 7:04 PM ET
Its a pipe dream. Meh.
- TheHank


It definitely is. But I don’t understand how this fan base is having trouble fitting in a player whose worst season in the last 5 seasons was 73 points (in 72 games).
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Dec 28 @ 7:06 PM ET
If Seguin is actually on the trade block you have to make a play for him IMO before a team like Montreal does.

Eichel and Seguin would be the modern day Crosby and Malkin IMO.

- Stripes77

seguin has 7 playoff games for the stars
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Dec 28 @ 7:07 PM ET
It definitely is. But I don’t understand how this fan base is having trouble fitting in a player whose worst season in the last 5 seasons was 73 points (in 72 games).
- Pegullaville

on pace for 65 or 66 points this season though
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Dec 28 @ 7:07 PM ET
so we have a guy who might score 50 goals this season, and replace him with sheary, who the pens themselves demoted to the 4th line for poor play


and the pens had to go out and get kessel to make this work

if your moving skunk and skinner, who is putting up the points for 2 lines?

not sheary or wilson

- homiedclown


Mitts and Seguin can’t make the 2nd line work ? Skinner wouldn’t eclipse 55 points if he was still in Carolina this year and Reinhart is finally putting a 50+ point season together playing with Eichel. Skinner and Reinhart aren’t as good as you think. It’s amazing what playing with a superstar can do for a player.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Dec 28 @ 7:08 PM ET
No we see the same player. Sheary has always been a 4th line player. Crosby made lemonade out of crap. Skinner scored 24 goals all of last year and already has 26 this year. Skinner has always been a great goal scorer don’t get me wrong, but sure as heck has never scored 50+ like he’ll do this year. I’m sure if Sheary played a full 82 games with Eichel he’d score 25. Pominville even has 9 goals this year for crying out loud.
- Pegullaville



Pominville has 9 goals this year for crying out loud.
1 more then the other guy currently playing on eichel's line.


Same amount of goals over the last 9 games
Even though he's 36 and hurt


Pommer could give that top line another boost for a few games for crying out loud
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Dec 28 @ 7:08 PM ET
If Seguin is actually on the trade block you have to make a play for him IMO before a team like Montreal does.

Eichel and Seguin would be the modern day Crosby and Malkin IMO.

- Stripes77


But we have Reinhart and Skinner..... we don’t need Seguin.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Dec 28 @ 7:09 PM ET
how the the sabres respond if pegula said skinner has been blah the last few games in public?
- homiedclown



Kim or terry?

Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Dec 28 @ 7:10 PM ET
seguin has 7 playoff games for the stars
- homiedclown


That's more of a product of the team he has been playing on, no?

I mean Eichel hasn't played in a single playoff game yet.

If you could keep Casey and Sam and make the trade work you would have a top 6 of

Skinner Eichel Reinhart
Casey Seguin Thompson

That could work
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Dec 28 @ 7:10 PM ET
But we have Reinhart and Skinner..... we don’t need Seguin.
- Pegullaville



I am not sure how they are comparative here

You can keep Skinner and still have room for Seguin and even Reinhart

Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Dec 28 @ 7:12 PM ET
I am not sure how they are comparative here

You can keep Skinner and still have room for Seguin and even Reinhart

- Stripes77


I was being sarcastic. If you read the top of the page you’d understand.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Dec 28 @ 7:13 PM ET
Mitts and Seguin can’t make the 2nd line work ? Skinner wouldn’t eclipse 55 points if he was still in Carolina this year and Reinhart is finally putting a 50+ point season together playing with Eichel. Skinner and Reinhart aren’t as good as you think. It’s amazing what playing with a superstar can do for a player.
- Pegullaville

probably losing mitts if you get seguin, and skinner

so if it's reinhart and mitts for seguin, whats left?


and reinhart is pretty much a ppg player with eichel, sheary and wilson will not produce near what skinner and reinhart is doing with jack
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Dec 28 @ 7:13 PM ET
I was being sarcastic. If you read the top of the page you’d understand.
- Pegullaville



I would rather keep Skinner and Reinhart over adding Seguin alone though if that's what you're implying

The winger depth of this organization is awful

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Dec 28 @ 7:14 PM ET
That's more of a product of the team he has been playing on, no?


- Stripes77

I am confused, because the mass does not take this into account for the first 2 seasons of a skunk picked second overall


homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Dec 28 @ 7:15 PM ET
I would rather keep Skinner and Reinhart over adding Seguin alone though if that's what you're implying

The winger depth of this organization is awful

- Stripes77

yup, best thing right now is to sign skinner, and keep skunk until some prospects (4 first rd picks in next 2 years) is ready

make a play for schenn if they want a center for the short term
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Dec 28 @ 7:16 PM ET
Kim or terry?
- Boss34

Jessica

didn't she have the grags jersey
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Dec 28 @ 7:17 PM ET


The winger depth of this organization is awful

- Stripes77

tim murray disagrees
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