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HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Dec 27 @ 9:05 AM ET
I get that for sure. And maybe his style does translate to a longer career, although speed is a big part of his game and most players lose a step as the get into their 30's.

So, $8.5 x 6 = $51m ; and $8.0 x 7 = $56 ... $5m is not chump change, but he could make that up and more IF he remained productive.

I have faith in Botteril, he has negotiated some good contracts already...
Maybe the way is to get the AVV to work out to $8m or less on a longer term by reducing the salary in the final couple of years, but increasing the early years..so something like 9, 9, 9, 8, 8, 8, 6, 6 ...gets to $63 with avv slightly less than $8m. I could go with that, not much more though.

- IonSabres


Go check out the article about him I posted a little while ago. He's an anomaly in a lot of ways, so trying to predict what's going to happen once he hits a certain age is tough.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Dec 27 @ 9:09 AM ET
okposo and a third for a 7th


or okposo for loui eriksson (out of deal 1 year early)


IMO that's the best we can hope for
gordong
Location: NY
Joined: 02.06.2007

Dec 27 @ 9:09 AM ET
I don't think anyone over the age of 27 is a good idea for this team at this point. Anyone who's produced to the point that it would be helpful would probably have a pretty high salary for an extended period of time and would also require a decent amount going back the other way. Just doesn't fit with what JB is putting together here.
- HonkFortheGoose


Great point, unless the term is short... it also going to be very hard and expensive to obtain someone under 27 that’s really good...

We really need 2 of nylander, olofsson, Smith to pan out... and provide that next level of scoring or get really lucky with one of those first round picks.


homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Dec 27 @ 9:11 AM ET
dumba out 3 months, send them back scandella
gordong
Location: NY
Joined: 02.06.2007

Dec 27 @ 9:12 AM ET
Yeah. I get it. But we're not getting rid of Okposo for someone that's actually going to be helpful at this point. Realistically, is anyone going to take back a $7M salary of a guy that clearly is struggling big time? If we do manage to dump him somewhere, it's going to be for pennies on the dollar.
- HonkFortheGoose



Just dumping the salary would be huge... don’t want anything back.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Dec 27 @ 9:12 AM ET
Great point, unless the term is short... it also going to be very hard and expensive to obtain someone under 27 that’s really good...

We really need 2 of nylander, olofsson, Smith to pan out... and provide that next level of scoring or get really lucky with one of those first round picks.

- gordong

you need roster space for these kids to get realistic chance


send a few scrubs packing
gordong
Location: NY
Joined: 02.06.2007

Dec 27 @ 9:13 AM ET
dumba out 3 months, send them back scandella
- homiedclown


Scandella + Kyle for a 7th
CoHo_to_B-Lo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: East Amherst, NY
Joined: 02.29.2012

Dec 27 @ 9:14 AM ET
Scandella + Kyle for a 7th
- gordong



Scandella + Okposo + 2nd for a 7th.


HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Dec 27 @ 9:16 AM ET
Just dumping the salary would be huge... don’t want anything back.
- gordong


Yeah. It's terrible. I'd love to get out from under it as well.
gordong
Location: NY
Joined: 02.06.2007

Dec 27 @ 9:16 AM ET
you need roster space for these kids to get realistic chance


send a few scrubs packing

- homiedclown



Absolutely.... still plenty of guys they can cut... sadly.
gordong
Location: NY
Joined: 02.06.2007

Dec 27 @ 9:17 AM ET
Scandella + Okposo + 2nd for a 7th.



- CoHo_to_B-Lo



In a NY minute...
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Dec 27 @ 9:18 AM ET
Absolutely.... still plenty of guys they can cut... sadly.
- gordong


The middle 6 of our forward group needs some serious work.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Dec 27 @ 9:19 AM ET
Yeah. I get it. But we're not getting rid of Okposo for someone that's actually going to be helpful at this point. Realistically, is anyone going to take back a $7M salary of a guy that clearly is struggling big time? If we do manage to dump him somewhere, it's going to be for pennies on the dollar.
- HonkFortheGoose


Okposo is at $6m for 4 more. The question is, is there a comparable salary and time line that would make sense for both sides to swap? Loui Eriksson is the most obvious example
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Dec 27 @ 9:23 AM ET
That explains it.

Sorry, just been seeing that a ton EVERYWHERE on social media and stuff lately. Starting to get on my nerves.

So really, it has less to do with you and more to do with me.

- HonkFortheGoose


I saw a grandma dap and do the Floss Greatest thing I’ve ever witnessed
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Dec 27 @ 9:24 AM ET
dumba out 3 months, send them back scandella
- homiedclown


I said that laxt week whdn his injury first occured and was looked at like
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Dec 27 @ 9:24 AM ET
dumba out 3 months, send them back scandella
- homiedclown


For Niederreiter
gordong
Location: NY
Joined: 02.06.2007

Dec 27 @ 9:24 AM ET
The middle 6 of our forward group needs some serious work.
- HonkFortheGoose


It sure does.... looking back GMTM really really screwed up this rebuild trading all those picks, and not drafting well.
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Dec 27 @ 9:26 AM ET
Okposo is at $6m for 4 more. The question is, is there a comparable salary and time line that would make sense for both sides to swap? Loui Eriksson is the most obvious example
- jcragcrumple


For some reason I thought he was $7. So $6 is even better. Still tough to move, but maybe a bit easier. In any event, while I think everything he's gone through is tough and I feel bad for him, at the same time he's clearly not pulling his weight especially when you factor in the salary. Time to try and move on in some way.

He's also probably one good hit away from ending up receiving the Pronger/Savard treatment (aka LTIR and part of the Arizona organization)
gordong
Location: NY
Joined: 02.06.2007

Dec 27 @ 9:26 AM ET
I saw a grandma dap and do the Floss Greatest thing I’ve ever witnessed
- gerbe75pts



Huh? Can you convert this to English please gerbes
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Dec 27 @ 9:27 AM ET
okposo and a third for a 7th


or okposo for loui eriksson (out of deal 1 year early)


IMO that's the best we can hope for

- homiedclown


I'd do it. (frank) it, maybe it would work. What we're doing here with Okposo sure isnt
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Dec 27 @ 9:30 AM ET
I'd do it. (frank) it, maybe it would work. What we're doing here with Okposo sure isnt
- jcragcrumple

if you buy loui out, it's 1 less year then buying okposo out
gordong
Location: NY
Joined: 02.06.2007

Dec 27 @ 9:30 AM ET
For some reason I thought he was $7. So $6 is even better. Still tough to move, but maybe a bit easier. In any event, while I think everything he's gone through is tough and I feel bad for him, at the same time he's clearly not pulling his weight especially when you factor in the salary. Time to try and move on in some way.

He's also probably one good hit away from ending up receiving the Pronger/Savard treatment (aka LTIR and part of the Arizona organization)

- HonkFortheGoose


Time to sic girgs on him in practice....


I’m kidding, no really, i’m Not serious...it’s just a joke. [wink]
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Dec 27 @ 9:32 AM ET
Huh? Can you convert this to English please gerbes
- gordong


Grandma Doing a dap



Grandma Doing the floss

CoHo_to_B-Lo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: East Amherst, NY
Joined: 02.29.2012

Dec 27 @ 9:33 AM ET
[quote=gerbe75pts]Grandma Doing a dap

So you are purposely spelling dab wrong or?
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Dec 27 @ 9:34 AM ET
if you buy loui out, it's 1 less year then buying okposo out
- homiedclown


Your services will be missed
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