Right.. you CANT just deal him for 2 seconds and move one...

but if you get a blue chip prospect, a B-Prospect, and a 1st (likely Late because the team is contending for a cup), and a 4th or lower pick, that takes the sting out of losing him.

Think of it as 2 1st and 2 4ths (give the idea a blue chip would be a former 1st and the B-level is a previously 3rd-5th round pick).
- gnosox1986

I still think DK ends up in Toronto.

Very nice. Jokiharju and Mitchell with A’s and Galvas with the C.

Stonefire and Walleye, thanks for the additional insights on Galvas.
- AEL_Fox

No problem. To clarify: Galvas had the C at the last U20 Four Nations Tournament in Hodonín, CZE. At WJHC, Nečas is Czech captain with Kaut and Galvas serving as alternates.
Source: https://twitter.com/narod...tatus/1077654135087026176

Hawks to have new sweater next year per this article.


https://www.secondcityhoc...w-jerseys-2019-nhl-adidas

World Junior Tournament starts today. Always good to see some of the stars of the future. Here's a link to the TV schedule airing on the NHL network.

https://www.nhl.com/info/nhl-network-wjc-schedule

Hey scott,

I notice that you put a lot of thought into your observations. Even following Justin, another blogger or your question for the board/panel, you have some possibilities or suggestions for a trade. Often there is some descent ideas you come up with.

I would be very surprised if Justin or anyone can sensibly outline a case for trading Keith now. On some night the team may slide by without a top calibre proven veteran like Keith. The defense would be in shambles, everyone in a different notch or tasked with a higher rank on the defense than they should ever face. Kids also need to grow and learn with the veterans surrounding them. y

On offense this is not such a big deal. But defense takes a long time to master.

I know I have addressed this topic previously. Just know that the team had to be respectable to the fans who pay for tickets. You cannot rely on whom remains on the blueline. It is like John MacEnroe (sic), the infamous tennis player of yesteryear, whom when really beside himself on a referee call and he exclaims "You can't be serious.!"

I suggest Bowman csnnot be serious trading Keith yet. At the trade deadline if he gets a kings ransom? Still no in my way of thinking. You may get less for him in a year and so be it.

You really need to see for the remainder of this season both Murphy and Dahlstrom play well, Gus decides to play defense, maybe Mitchell makes the team next season. Maybe one or both Forsling and Jokiharju improve even a tad more.

Oh someone will get moved before next season is very old....this I expect because there will need to be more playing time for a current youngster on the team now and or a Mitchell or Carlsson. You are nuts to push Boqvist or Kyrs or Beaudin too fast. No need to rush them. Your guys here should play and let Boqvist, Beaudin play some in Rockford. They come up better prepared.

Justin I am going to really be surprised if you say trade Keith now.
- jhawk59

To me keith is the obvious player to be traded not saying i want him traded because i think his experience and leadership would be a great asset to the young d men coming up in the system just look at joki for example. But hawks won't be able to trade Seabrook's contract unless sweetners are involved( retain money, take on a bad contract in return, or add a prospect) AA is not going to get much in return draft pick and ahl prospect. Then other trade pieces manning rutta kunitz Gusterson are not get much in return if anything. So back to keith teams i would be looking to trade with that could contend Toronto Buffalo Montreal Calgary that keith could put them postion for a long playoff run. One last thing keith does not seem to happy right now it could be hawks losing or him having to babysit or what went down with the firing of coach Q. Who knows maybe he already went to management privately and wants out and another chance at the cup. Trading keith has its pros and cons but since the hawks are in rebuild mode might be best to start trading a core members and get the best value hawks can get. Plus do we as hawks fans want bowman making these crucial trades um no. Its all about the future of the hawks from here on out.

Hawks to have new sweater next year per this article.


https://www.secondcityhoc...w-jerseys-2019-nhl-adidas
- boilermaker100

Good. I hope they get rid of that stupid collar.

Good. I hope they get rid of that stupid collar.
- tompo1015

Yes, but is that really a new jersey? These stupid little changes that the league calls "big jersey changes" are raping the fans every year.

Are there any European free agent goalie targets this summer?
- DarthKane

Still think Ivan Nalimov is going to fit into the Hawks goalie plans next year somehow

Its been proven over and over again, better to trade someone a year early than a year late. There are exceptions, but those are if you need that guy to win a cup (which posters sometime forget when critizing Stan). However, Hawks aren't in that position now.

I'd trade Keith tomorrow as long as its a great return. He'll be very good for a team like Toronto. He will look much better than he does here, and posters will rip management and current coach for losing this great dman. He may even win them a cup.

As it was with the Hawks in cup years, when you have your chance, you go for it.

IMO, Toronto isn't winning the cup with that D. Tampa is young also, so it isn't a given that you will be there next year.

Been an awful long time since the last cup in Toronto, they need to go for it. Giving the Hawks a ton for Keith, would be a positive move for them.
- vabeachbear

Agree that a team has to go for it when they're in the cup window. Keith to Toronto makes sense in more ways than one. They could use an experienced defenseman, Babcock loves him, they have the cap space this season and if Keith is willing to waive he has a chance to see his name on the cup for a 4th time.

Read somewhere where 2 would prefer a move to Western Canada to get closer to his kids. Calgary and Winnipeg are in the running for a cup too, so they may be in contention for a d-man. It would be great if there is a bidding war for his services from 2 or 3 teams.

Hawks to have new sweater next year per this article.


https://www.secondcityhoc...w-jerseys-2019-nhl-adidas
- boilermaker100

Not surprised. Most diehard fans hate the new adidas jersey because of the collar. Hopefully they change that and bring back the third black jersey. That was always my favorite growing up

Yes, but is that really a new jersey? These stupid little changes that the league calls "big jersey changes" are raping the fans every year.
- powerenforcer

No not really, I think that's why they mentioned the possibility of the tie strings on the jersey instead because that would make it a newer jersey versus it just being a new collar. NHL don't care about that. They know they could change the jerseys like every three years or so and people would still buy them

Agree that a team has to go for it when they're in the cup window. Keith to Toronto makes sense in more ways than one. They could use an experienced defenseman, Babcock loves him, they have the cap space this season and if Keith is willing to waive he has a chance to see his name on the cup for a 4th time.

Read somewhere where 2 would prefer a move to Western Canada to get closer to his kids. Calgary and Winnipeg are in the running for a cup too, so they may be in contention for a d-man. It would be great if there is a bidding war for his services from 2 or 3 teams.
- boilermaker100

I've only ever heard that both Seabrook and Keith would wanna go out West if traded, but Keith to Toronto makes a lot of sense with their history with Team Canada and the fact that they could use a legit veteran d-man who can help stabilize the backend and help others around him grow. Idk if Toronto would wanna do that or not with the cap hell they're about to take a deep dive into but who knows maybe the quest to finally win the cup will push them to do whatever it takes this year or next to win and then figure it out

Yes, but is that really a new jersey? These stupid little changes that the league calls "big jersey changes" are raping the fans every year.
- powerenforcer

No one will be hurt if they don’t reflexively buy the latest marginally changed sweater.

The league isn’t forcing itself on anyone.

Unlike the situation with true rape victims.

Still think Ivan Nalimov is going to fit into the Hawks goalie plans next year somehow
- Savetheembers33

He's kind of been down and out this year. I think he only has like 5-6 starts and has been on numerous different teams. He may fall out of favor quickly.

I've only ever heard that both Seabrook and Keith would wanna go out West if traded, but Keith to Toronto makes a lot of sense with their history with Team Canada and the fact that they could use a legit veteran d-man who can help stabilize the backend and help others around him grow. Idk if Toronto would wanna do that or not with the cap hell they're about to take a deep dive into but who knows maybe the quest to finally win the cup will push them to do whatever it takes this year or next to win and then figure it out
- Savetheembers33

Toronto will be in cap hell next year with or without Keith. Same for Winnipeg. It will be interesting to see what their GM's do after the season to manage the cap.

When you think about it, the cap really limits the window for a team to win the Stanley Cup. Teams tank for a few years, accumulate some young stars via the draft, then before you know it their ELC's are over and you have you pay them the big bucks and trade off some other key players to pay for them. If a team hasn't won the cup by that time, they take a step backwards.

Looking back at the Hawks, 3 cups in 6 years in the salary cup era is quite an accomplishment.

Edit. Though not a Stanbo fan, have to give him some credit for that.

Good. I hope they get rid of that stupid collar.
- tompo1015

Agreed,
wanted to pick-up a new sweater for the collection, but not with the "Flying Nun" collar.

He's kind of been down and out this year. I think he only has like 5-6 starts and has been on numerous different teams. He may fall out of favor quickly.
- Chunk

I know he's had a rough season this year and bounced around a bit, but I could still see him coming over to Chicago next year. Get a shot with Delia, Forsberg (if he's still here), and a vet that they sign (if they decide to do so because Crow isn't coming back) to take the backup Goalie spot and if he can't spend a little time in Rockford to get his confidence back up. He may or may not be open to that but we'll see

Toronto will be in cap hell next year with or without Keith. Same for Winnipeg. It will be interesting to see what their GM's do after the season to manage the cap.

When you think about it, the cap really limits the window for a team to win the Stanley Cup. Teams tank for a few years, accumulate some young stars via the draft, then before you know it their ELC's are over and you have you pay them the big bucks and trade off some other key players to pay for them. If a team hasn't won the cup by that time, they take a step backwards.

Looking back at the Hawks, 3 cups in 6 years in the salary cup era is quite an accomplishment.

Edit. Though not a Stanbo fan, have to give him some credit for that.
- boilermaker100

No I agree. I'm not a huge Stanbo fan either, but he has made some very good moves to help this team win. The fact that both Kane and Toews signed their bridge deals for the majority of our run made it possible to win three cups and have chances for more.

Now guys want to sign max deals after the ELC deals which is killing teams and the cap. Something is going to have to give there come the next CBA otherwise teams are gonna be screwed.

Anyone see this before Christmas (might have been discussed in the last one)...

https://www.prohockeyrumo...trade-out-of-chicago.html

Makes zero sense to trade him and have to retain half his salary when he could be sent down to Rockford and we'd gain the same amount of cap space. Plus someone may claim him and we'd lose him for the cap space which I think everyone would be fine with. Who know's like the article said, teams love big strong D-men come Playoff time and maybe someone is willing to bite on him for a year and a half of his services with a low cap hit for a draft pick or lower end prospect

Anyone see this before Christmas (might have been discussed in the last one)...

https://www.prohockeyrumo...trade-out-of-chicago.html

Makes zero sense to trade him and have to retain half his salary when he could be sent down to Rockford and we'd gain the same amount of cap space. Plus someone may claim him and we'd lose him for the cap space which I think everyone would be fine with. Who know's like the article said, teams love big strong D-men come Playoff time and maybe someone is willing to bite on him for a year and a half of his services with a low cap hit for a draft pick or lower end prospect
- Savetheembers33

2.5 for Manning and 1 for Kunitz. Wonder what kinda D or Forward 3.5 coulda bought in FA??

2.5 for Manning and 1 for Kunitz. Wonder what kinda D or Forward 3.5 coulda bought in FA??
- z1990z

Probably not one that would be sure to contribute to the next Cup run - especially since we still don’t know exactly where all f the young Fs and Ds will be useful.

Anyone see this before Christmas (might have been discussed in the last one)...

https://www.prohockeyrumo...trade-out-of-chicago.html

Makes zero sense to trade him and have to retain half his salary when he could be sent down to Rockford and we'd gain the same amount of cap space. Plus someone may claim him and we'd lose him for the cap space which I think everyone would be fine with. Who know's like the article said, teams love big strong D-men come Playoff time and maybe someone is willing to bite on him for a year and a half of his services with a low cap hit for a draft pick or lower end prospect
- Savetheembers33

I saw this article, too. One thing for the team to be wary of is signing free agent veterans and then burying them in the AHL within the season. Happened with Franson and Bouma last season and could happen again with Manning.

While I see the reasoning from a salary cap stand point, it wouldn't help the Hawks standing with future free agents: "sign with us to be buried in Rockford by mid winter."

It's somewhat similar to trading Sikura before he has had ample chance to prove his worth. It doesn't send a good message to NCAA prospects to know they are expendable early on when they could instead test free agency to find the best opportunity possible (i.e. like Hayes, Vesey, Butcher).

2.5 for Manning and 1 for Kunitz. Wonder what kinda D or Forward 3.5 coulda bought in FA??
- z1990z

Rutta and Manning's combined hit this year equalled what DeHaan signed for with Carolina. Another real NHL defenseman would have helped immensely this year. Kunitz, while a waste, doesn't cost much more than an ELC guy.

I know he's had a rough season this year and bounced around a bit, but I could still see him coming over to Chicago next year. Get a shot with Delia, Forsberg (if he's still here), and a vet that they sign (if they decide to do so because Crow isn't coming back) to take the backup Goalie spot and if he can't spend a little time in Rockford to get his confidence back up. He may or may not be open to that but we'll see
- Savetheembers33

Hope Nalimov gets a shot at some point yet he needs to clear some hurdles first to even get to that point, i.e. get out of his KHL contract, show a desire to work towards an NHL opportunity, prove his worth in the minors and/or camps. Even if he gets a chance, my gut is he won't stick. Talent may be there but I question his commitment and attitude. If I was a hiring manager for a company and saw his resume, the term "job hopper" pops in to my head. I'd rather invest in someone else.

As for Forsberg, I don't see him panning out with the Hawks. Delia has the upper hand now and can really pull ahead and take the reigns within the next calendar year. Forsberg needs to dial it up in Rockford if he wants to keep his stock high.

When all things shake out with the goalie prospects over the next 3-5 years, my guess is Delia is in with Gravel knocking on the door while Forsberg, Lankinen, Nalimov, and Peeters are out.

To all my wrestling friends, Happy Sheikie Day!

Jokiharju and Mitchell with A’s and Galvas with the C.
- AEL_Fox

Update: Kurashev with an A, too.