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Taylorst1
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 07.09.2018

Dec 19 @ 11:51 AM ET
Nice write up Justin.


Couple of questions you might be able to answer. With Johki being loaned out , is he still counted towards the cap and roster requirements?

Also dalhstom has been playing well and come January when the teams start back up after Christmas and these tournaments, Chicago is carrying way to many defenseman does anyone get sent back down or is a trade more likely ?
TheTrob
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Oak Park, IL
Joined: 04.14.2010

Dec 19 @ 11:51 AM ET
I mean I don't think it was intentional in the sense he raised it but the guy is an NHL player he knew what he was doing. He keeps the elbow up and turns as he knows Kruger cant check him without getting an elbow to the face. That isn't a normal stick handle move.

I'd call it the intentional unintentional elbow. Put it as another sports analogy, if I'm playing basketball and have my elbows up and see a guy running toward me I can't just turn into him with my elbow still up.

If that is a completely clean play then every d-men should just keep his elbows up at all times along the boards to avoid checks.

- bhawks2241


He is handling the puck. His elbow is where it needs to be to control his stick and the puck. Every move he makes with that arm is to control the puck. There are a dozen things Kruger can do on that play to avoid taking it in the face first. A correct check would have been properly angled and leading with his shoulder. If he had gone in at the right angle he would have made contact with one of his shoulders. He approaches almost as if to hug him, meaning his head is the contact point.
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Dec 19 @ 11:51 AM ET
April Wine ( A good Canada band)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4W7TVaFc6c

- powerenforcer

I think you mean King Crimson?
Spec41971
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Rolling meadows, IL
Joined: 03.04.2017

Dec 19 @ 11:54 AM ET
Styx?
- I Am The Breadman


And Stones?
Hawkytalk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Frankfort, IL
Joined: 06.26.2012

Dec 19 @ 11:54 AM ET
I think Kampf is Krugs replacement.
- I Am The Breadman


Absolutely.....and there was no reason for Bowman to bring Kruger back at a 2.7 cap hit when Kampf is developing into that role......Or was it a Quenneville gift ?
Either way......a HUGE mistake in the use of cap dollars, not to mention that Kruger hasn't been effective in 3 years with any team. I can't imagine any team wanting him at the deadline.

Just another BUST of a move by Bowman / McD.
Z3Hawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 05.04.2017

Dec 19 @ 11:54 AM ET
And Hartman did change the position of his extended elbow by backing up into Kruger's path.
- StLBravesFan


Hartman moved his elbow into Kruger’s face as he moved his WHOLE BODY backwards and towards Kruger. Hartman would not be allowed to elbow someone like this aggressively moving foreward - makes no difference that he was aggressively moving backwards.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Dec 19 @ 11:54 AM ET
You get that, DK? Your boy is back in town!
- I Am The Breadman


DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Dec 19 @ 11:56 AM ET
The Strome-Anisimov-Kane line makes no sense long-term as they are all left shots. Strome and Kane seem to be developing chemistry but Strome simply has to be at C with the right-shooting Cat at LW. Gotta put that line back together and simply leave them alone to jell. Some of the line-blending just seems for the sake of it and puts Q to shame.
- Z3Hawk


That's the kiss of death for Strome.... expect him to be traded soon.
Z3Hawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 05.04.2017

Dec 19 @ 11:57 AM ET
That's the kiss of death for Strome.... expect him to be traded soon.
- DarthKane


Sadly some fearful truth there.
Hawkytalk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Frankfort, IL
Joined: 06.26.2012

Dec 19 @ 11:57 AM ET
đź‘ŤStyx Started out as a garage band from Roseland, used to play a lot at Mendel high school back in the 70s
- wonthecup10


Was there often and played some hockey with John. RIP.
SimpleJack
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago , IL
Joined: 05.23.2013

Dec 19 @ 11:58 AM ET
Fluke performance, greatly aided by the fact that Nashville was missing 3 of their top 5 players.

We’re still probably the worst team in the NHL and I still see no other logical option other than tanking. Hopefully we start losing again ASAP.
Z3Hawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 05.04.2017

Dec 19 @ 11:59 AM ET
I think you mean King Crimson?
- paulr


21st Century Schizoid Man - from King Crimson’s first album Court of the Crimson King - what a freakin’ album.
Taylorst1
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 07.09.2018

Dec 19 @ 11:59 AM ET
That's the kiss of death for Strome.... expect him to be traded soon.
- DarthKane


Maybe IMO they were showcasing anismov for a trade or possible trade.

The whole line juggling is killing any chemistry these kids are trying to establish.


Return of the Roar
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Solidly grounded in reality, IL
Joined: 07.27.2009

Dec 19 @ 11:59 AM ET
So the first sighting of a well played game most of the night in a long time.

I agree on Dahlstrom/Murphy showing signs of something decent on the back end to build on. Gus did not seem as helter skelter last night - more restrained and disciplined play, seeming to pick his spots to join the rush. Keith seemed engaged - likely because he had an inkling they might actually win the game.

I do think 12/17/88 need to be a thing and let them gel. I think with Kruger out we will see AA go where he is best slotted - as a 3C.

20 and 19 need a road grading RW on their line. No one on the roster fits that description.

Kahun and Kampf need to play together. They seem to have chemistry, they hustle, and typically are solid on the defensive side. Kahun is overslotted playing on Toews' line.

Ward still has game, but he's a bridge guy and won't be part of the long term.

Some things to like about last night for sure.

But....

As mentioned above, NSH without three REALLY good players in their lineup, playing second half of a back to back, and a terrible road team.

We are going to see the occasional 60 minute game from the Hawks, but they will revert more back to norm over the season, because let's face it - they are still largely an AHL team, whose AHL players are likely always going to be that.

Very few of the players we see today will be around if/when this team truly is rebuilt.
TheTrob
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Oak Park, IL
Joined: 04.14.2010

Dec 19 @ 11:59 AM ET
Hartman moved his elbow into Kruger’s face as he moved his WHOLE BODY backwards and towards Kruger. Hartman would not be allowed to elbow someone like this aggressively moving foreward - makes no difference that he was aggressively moving backwards.
- Z3Hawk



No he didn't. Watch the video. He is turning to spin up the boards. Look at his left skate and right side/shoulder and stick blade. Hartman is turning to his left to go up the boards. He pivots his left foot and is raising the right to crossover when Kruger impacts him. Kruger is at a poor angle and is leading with his chest trying to wrap him up as opposed to making a shoulder check

https://twitter.com/CMS_7...tatus/1075225321165742081
Hawkytalk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Frankfort, IL
Joined: 06.26.2012

Dec 19 @ 11:59 AM ET
Yeah, and as far I know is still playing with the band.
- walleyeb1


Correct....but only fills in occasionally
breadbag
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 11.30.2015

Dec 19 @ 12:01 PM ET
I think Gus will keep getting minutes. Especially if he keeps scoring goals.

Even strength minutes per game by Hawks D under JC. (Some of this impacted by injuries)

Gus - 19:46
Keith - 19:26
Dahlstrom - 18:37
Forsling - 18:02
Murphy - 17:56
Joki - 16:40
Seabrook - 15:50
Rutta - 14:50
Manning - 13:07
Davidson - 11:57

With Davidson out and Rutta demoted...Manning riding pine... it could be Seabrook starting to see minutes in the pressbox more often once Joki is back. Seabs was low man on the minutes totem pole last night. Maybe if the Hawks can trade him they will take a bad contract back on a player that can at least play 3rd line forward, since we have so many D.
TheTrob
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Oak Park, IL
Joined: 04.14.2010

Dec 19 @ 12:01 PM ET
So the first sighting of a well played game most of the night in a long time.

I agree on Dahlstrom/Murphy showing signs of something decent on the back end to build on. Gus did not seem as helter skelter last night - more restrained and disciplined play, seeming to pick his spots to join the rush. Keith seemed engaged - likely because he had an inkling they might actually win the game.

I do think 12/17/88 need to be a thing and let them gel. I think with Kruger out we will see AA go where he is best slotted - as a 3C.

20 and 19 need a road grading RW on their line. No one on the roster fits that description.

Kahun and Kampf need to play together. They seem to have chemistry, they hustle, and typically are solid on the defensive side. Kahun is overslotted playing on Toews' line.

Ward still has game, but he's a bridge guy and won't be part of the long term.

Some things to like about last night for sure.

But....

As mentioned above, NSH without three REALLY good players in their lineup, playing second half of a back to back, and a terrible road team.

We are going to see the occasional 60 minute game from the Hawks, but they will revert more back to norm over the season, because let's face it - they are still largely an AHL team, whose AHL players are likely always going to be that.

Very few of the players we see today will be around if/when this team truly is rebuilt.

- Return of the Roar


Lets also not forget that Rinne had an excellent game last night. The Hawks could have easily had a couple of more goals last night.
Return of the Roar
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Solidly grounded in reality, IL
Joined: 07.27.2009

Dec 19 @ 12:01 PM ET
Correct....but only fills in occasionally
- Hawkytalk


Last time I saw them he cameoed on Renegade and that was it.
Z3Hawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 05.04.2017

Dec 19 @ 12:01 PM ET
There's alot of issues with the young guys meshing with Torts system. Wennberg, Anderson, Duclair has been in and out of the lineup in the last 10 then is thrown on the first line with Panarin day to day. He just seems like a guy that has unrealistic expectations.
- nickmo2699


Torts is a lunatic.
Taylorst1
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 07.09.2018

Dec 19 @ 12:02 PM ET
Absolutely.....and there was no reason for Bowman to bring Kruger back at a 2.7 cap hit when Kampf is developing into that role......Or was it a Quenneville gift ?
Either way......a HUGE mistake in the use of cap dollars, not to mention that Kruger hasn't been effective in 3 years with any team. I can't imagine any team wanting him at the deadline.

Just another BUST of a move by Bowman / McD.

- Hawkytalk



All of Stans off season moves are beyond awful , manning , Kunitz and Kruger.

Kunitz should never see the ice again in a Indian head sweater he is just horrible.

I Am The Breadman
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Richton Park, IL
Joined: 09.16.2018

Dec 19 @ 12:02 PM ET
That’s what I’m thinking as well. While I don’t mind Kampf playing 3C short term now, I think he’d be a stellar 4C. While his defense is solid, his offense isn’t 3rd line caliber. With Kruger injured, though, Anisimov slots back in as 3C bumping Kampf down to 4th line.
- AEL_Fox


Agree. I want to see Strome as 2C and Arty as 3C.
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Dec 19 @ 12:03 PM ET
Fluke performance, greatly aided by the fact that Nashville was missing 3 of their top 5 players.

We’re still probably the worst team in the NHL and I still see no other logical option other than tanking. Hopefully we start losing again ASAP.

- SimpleJack

You don't want a losing culture for the younger players. Look how that worked in Edmonton. I still want to see the Hawks play hard and as well as they possibly can and let the chips fall where they may.
TheTrob
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Oak Park, IL
Joined: 04.14.2010

Dec 19 @ 12:03 PM ET
I think Gus will keep getting minutes. Especially if he keeps scoring goals.

Even strength minutes per game by Hawks D under JC. (Some of this impacted by injuries)

Gus - 19:46
Keith - 19:26
Dahlstrom - 18:37
Forsling - 18:02
Murphy - 17:56
Joki - 16:40
Seabrook - 15:50
Rutta - 14:50
Manning - 13:07
Davidson - 11:57

With Davidson out and Rutta demoted...Manning riding pine... it could be Seabrook starting to see minutes in the pressbox more often once Joki is back. Seabs was low man on the minutes totem pole last night. Maybe if the Hawks can trade him they will take a bad contract back on a player that can at least play 3rd line forward, since we have so many D.

- breadbag


Seabs SHOULD be low man minutes wise. Anyone other than him with the string of poor games he has had recently would have already been press-boxed.
I Am The Breadman
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Richton Park, IL
Joined: 09.16.2018

Dec 19 @ 12:03 PM ET
And Stones?
- Spec41971


Hahahaha!!!
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