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1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Dec 19 @ 2:11 PM ET
My legit first thought at this news was "(frank) me, Jimbo's gonna hang onto Edler no matter what now."

Hutton can stay. he's proved himself a fine second pairing player. But its time to move on from Edler before he's Hansen/Higgins level useless.

- Lindenis#1


Edler will get a two year, $10m contract. Hutton will get the Sven deal, 3 years $10m.

Edler
Hughes
Hutton

Hughes
Edler / Joulevi
Hutton

Hughes
Joulevi
Hutton
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Dec 19 @ 2:14 PM ET
The biggest black eye is the D Sedin getting repeatedly punched by Marchand yes?

I would hope that every player, regardless of stature, wouldn't just take that. I don't mean that Goldy has to jump into a scrum fists flying, but you would hope he doesn't stand by eating (gloved) knuckle sandwiches.

- 1970vintage


Yes. Even grabbing a guy and bear-hugging that player, in a scrum, is better than doing nothing at all.
Standing up and participating in some fashion, is all anyone can ask.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Dec 19 @ 2:14 PM ET
with another team
- VanHockeyGuy


He would certainly get more $ from a different team, but I think both JB and TG like what he provides...
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Dec 19 @ 2:16 PM ET
Yes. Even grabbing a guy and bear-hugging that player, in a scrum, is better than doing nothing at all.
Standing up and participating in some fashion, is all anyone can ask.

- Reubenkincade


This brings us to Babcock's recent comments about the Leafs toughness being their PP. will the leafs be the next 2011 Canucks?
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Dec 19 @ 2:22 PM ET
My legit first thought at this news was "(frank) me, Jimbo's gonna hang onto Edler no matter what now."

Hutton can stay. he's proved himself a fine second pairing player. But its time to move on from Edler before he's Hansen/Higgins level useless.

- Lindenis#1


If he can convince Edler to waive for a chance at a cup, sell high. I just don't think he'll waive.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Dec 19 @ 2:22 PM ET
He would certainly get more $ from a different team, but I think both JB and TG like what he provides...
- 1970vintage


As much as most of us would like to move on from Edler and/or Tanev, both of them are still our 2 best defenseman.
Edler played 30 minutes last night and Tanev about 24. Until they get someone who can take some of those minutes, I can't see Benning not re-signing Edler...but dammit, he would get a pretty nice return in a trade.😁
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Dec 19 @ 2:24 PM ET
As much as most of us would like to move on from Edler and/or Tanev, both of them are still our 2 best defenseman.
Edler played 30 minutes last night and Tanev about 24. Until they get someone who can take some of those minutes, I can't see Benning not re-signing Edler...but dammit, he would get a pretty nice return in a trade.😁

- Reubenkincade

Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Dec 19 @ 2:24 PM ET
This brings us to Babcock's recent comments about the Leafs toughness being their PP. will the leafs be the next 2011 Canucks?
- 1970vintage



Yes.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Dec 19 @ 2:27 PM ET
As much as most of us would like to move on from Edler and/or Tanev, both of them are still our 2 best defenseman.
Edler played 30 minutes last night and Tanev about 24. Until they get someone who can take some of those minutes, I can't see Benning not re-signing Edler...but dammit, he would get a pretty nice return in a trade.😁

- Reubenkincade


Leafs need to trade for W Simmonds and C Tanev, and get out from under the Zeitsev contract to compete with Tampa.
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Dec 19 @ 2:28 PM ET
This brings us to Babcock's recent comments about the Leafs toughness being their PP. will the leafs be the next 2011 Canucks?
- 1970vintage

i've actually been thinking this for a while now.

difference being that the reffing standard won't change from regular season to playoffs.

#bettmanhatesus
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Dec 19 @ 2:30 PM ET
As much as most of us would like to move on from Edler and/or Tanev, both of them are still our 2 best defenseman.
Edler played 30 minutes last night and Tanev about 24. Until they get someone who can take some of those minutes, I can't see Benning not re-signing Edler...but dammit, he would get a pretty nice return in a trade.😁

- Reubenkincade


Hughes will be the teams best defenseman next season, though he might not play the most minutes. As much as it would hurt to lose those two guys Forbes the remainder of the season it would sure help the team in 2-3 years as they start to get really good again.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Dec 19 @ 2:49 PM ET
Hughes will be the teams best defenseman next season, though he might not play the most minutes. As much as it would hurt to lose those two guys Forbes the remainder of the season it would sure help the team in 2-3 years as they start to get really good again.
- 1970vintage


Hughes may end up being thè teams best defenseman. I usually like to see a player have at least 1 shift in the nhl before I make that claim though.
We have been down this road before with many of our top picks, including Juolevi Daigneault Petit Herter etc.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Dec 19 @ 2:49 PM ET
Edler will get a two year, $10m contract. Hutton will get the Sven deal, 3 years $10m.

Edler
Hughes
Hutton

Hughes
Edler / Joulevi
Hutton

Hughes
Joulevi
Hutton

- 1970vintage

In what world has Hutton earned a raise!?
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Dec 19 @ 2:53 PM ET
Button talking about Edler to Leaves today, please sweet baby jesus.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Dec 19 @ 2:53 PM ET
In what world has Hutton earned a raise!?
- neem55


The real world, where NHL defensemen get stupid money
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Dec 19 @ 2:54 PM ET
The real world, where NHL defensemen get stupid money
- 1970vintage

One's that can play defence maybe. He's already a overpaid fringe NHLer
Lindenis#1
Vancouver Canucks
Location: he's (frank)in unstable so mrs dt is freaking out, AB
Joined: 07.22.2007

Dec 19 @ 2:55 PM ET
If he can convince Edler to waive for a chance at a cup, sell high. I just don't think he'll waive.
- VanHockeyGuy


I think he would but not if there is any sense of returning.

If JB was like "time to go Alex. We don't have a spot next year" I think he waives. but if Benning is like "Well you know, i'm not sure and stuff. the roster isn't set and we'll figure it out eventually" then Edler's going to stay put.
Carol Schram
Joined: 09.27.2013

Dec 19 @ 2:59 PM ET
New blog is up with my thoughts on an intense game that was basically created by Antoine Roussel, team pushback, not backing down from a top team and Olli Juolevi's knee surgery:

https://www.hockeybuzz.co...ing-Juolevi-out/194/96672
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Dec 19 @ 3:00 PM ET
One's that can play defence maybe. He's already a overpaid fringe NHLer
- neem55





You sren't actually that stupid are you?
Lindenis#1
Vancouver Canucks
Location: he's (frank)in unstable so mrs dt is freaking out, AB
Joined: 07.22.2007

Dec 19 @ 3:01 PM ET
One's that can play defence maybe. He's already a overpaid fringe NHLer
- neem55


He's a top 4 Dman handling 21+ minutes a night, usually pretty damn well, that can skate well, has handled some tough matchups just fine and has enough offensive tools to get by.

Erik Gudbranson got a raise by showing that he couldn't stay healthy, play physical, skate or score. Michael Kempny was a depth player/healthy scratch who turned a hot 20 games into a 4 year contract at a nice fat raise.

If Hutton hit UFA he'd get a sizeable deal. Because the alternatives are the MDZs, Sbisas, Kulikovs and Schenn's of the world for most teams.
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