PatC80
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Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON Joined: 08.11.2011
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You mean that in a positive way right? - Scabeh
Absolutely..... Not, no. |
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senstroll
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Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON Joined: 02.22.2008
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Offer sheets don't currently make sense. A couple reasons.
1. They are extremely punishing to the team signing them. The rules currently inflate the AAV in what a team has to give up by I think dividing the total contract by 5 years instead of the actual number. So you may give up more first rounders than you wanted to.
2. Players coming off ELC are getting big deals so the team signing them has to make it lucrative to the player to A. sign the deal B. Pay the big money and pay the compensation picks. - Aaron_85
I will sign an offer sheet |
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PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON Joined: 08.11.2011
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I will sign an offer sheet - senstroll
$100? Charity of your choice? |
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Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Retired, ON Joined: 07.24.2011
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NOTHING like HB.. - bixll
Leafs will get a win tonight and all will get back to normal |
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Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON Joined: 09.20.2010
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I mean.. beiber is probably top of the charts too.. - Arctic_AARDVARK
Ya but beiber sucks.
Sportsnet, not all the time. |
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Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: The centre of the hockey universe Joined: 07.31.2006
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Marlies sign Tom Sestito.
W T Everloving F? |
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Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today? Joined: 06.30.2006
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What is it with your players and their (frank)ing dads man? - Scabeh
Yeah, well at least our players know who their dads are. |
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Offer sheets don't currently make sense. A couple reasons.
1. They are extremely punishing to the team signing them. The rules currently inflate the AAV in what a team has to give up by I think dividing the total contract by 5 years instead of the actual number. So you may give up more first rounders than you wanted to.
2. Players coming off ELC are getting big deals so the team signing them has to make it lucrative to the player to A. sign the deal B. Pay the big money and pay the compensation picks. - Aaron_85
If some team offer sheets Mathews and or Marner. You smile and gladly thank them for there 4 first rounders each. Which will probably be lottery firsts because only bottom feeders have the cap to. Lindros syndrom all over again. Can anyone remember who got better and won the cup. The Flyers or Nords/Avs.
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aries1976
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: The Frustration that unites us all. , AB Joined: 02.26.2007
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If some team offer sheets Mathews and or Marner. You smile and gladly thank them for there 4 first rounders each. Which will probably be lottery firsts because only bottom feeders have the cap to. Lindros syndrom all over again. Can anyone remember who got better and won the cup. The Flyers or Nords/Avs. - Buck Norris
Kinda agree..
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Marlies sign Tom Sestito.
W T Everloving F? - Atomic Wedgie
Roster filler cuz i have a feeling one or two marlies are part of being packaged. Just my thoughts thou.
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RogerRoeper
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 03.27.2007
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RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 03.27.2007
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If some team offer sheets Mathews and or Marner. You smile and gladly thank them for there 4 first rounders each. Which will probably be lottery firsts because only bottom feeders have the cap to. Lindros syndrom all over again. Can anyone remember who got better and won the cup. The Flyers or Nords/Avs. - Buck Norris
A lot of bottom feeders are broke as well, so "Cap Space" is irrelevant. They might not have the $ for that (Please see Arizona with Matthews). |
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Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers |
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Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh Joined: 04.06.2011
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I don't know. I despise Simmons. Simmons and Cox bother me more because they actually went to school for Journalism (I presume!), then got a job working for a publication that presented them as serious journalists - but they are terrible. They make stuff up. They fear monger. They hate the team they write about it. I'm not saying they're worse than Hitler, but now it's on the internet . . .so it could be true.
I do agree on a base level with you, I think. Whether Dangle is good at what he does or not (and to be honest, I liked him more before he joined Sportsnet, and had the Podcast, and Lunch apparances, and so on - and got too much exposure - because you run out of content), I really did like the fact that he basically was a guy like any of us who is decent at video editing, and made his Leaf opinions known.
The number of times my wife encouraged me to start a Leaf blog or do something - just so I'd stop female doging about things to her - it makes me respect what he did to get there. - Monkeypunk
Didn't he go to Ryerson to get a degree in media? |
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Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Whenever, wherever, ON Joined: 06.27.2013
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Good article about Babcock's stupid "Stretch-pass coaching" and how much ofa failure it is.
https://www.sportsnet.ca/...l-teams-biggest-weakness/ - RogerRoeper
They are 21-10-2. Chill. A couple of losses, and you're back in the land of Brophy.
The stretch pass isn't my favourite, but the biggest problem with the Leafs outlet approach is that Ozhiganov and Zaitsev can't complete a forward pass to save their lives. It's also why Quinn's #1 priority in a defenseman was the ability to make a good outlet pass. |
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senstroll
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Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON Joined: 02.22.2008
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Marlies sign Tom Sestito.
W T Everloving F? - Atomic Wedgie
Lou at it again |
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RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 03.27.2007
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They are 21-10-2. Chill. A couple of losses, and you're back in the land of Brophy.
The stretch pass isn't my favourite, but the biggest problem with the Leafs outlet approach is that Ozhiganov and Zaitsev can't complete a forward pass to save their lives. It's also why Quinn's #1 priority in a defenseman was the ability to make a good outlet pass. - Monkeypunk
Witbthis talent, any coach can have them with that record. |
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Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Whenever, wherever, ON Joined: 06.27.2013
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Didn't he go to Ryerson to get a degree in media? - AdamFrench
I would defer on that, I don't know. He doesn't come across as someone who's "polished", I suppose. He certainly has video editing and management skills. |
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A lot of bottom feeders are broke as well, so "Cap Space" is irrelevant. They might not have the $ for that (Please see Arizona with Matthews). - RogerRoeper
Hence there's probably 0% of it ever happening. So im not losing sleep over it. Win win either way if ya think about it.
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Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Whenever, wherever, ON Joined: 06.27.2013
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Witbthis talent, any coach can have them with that record. - RogerRoeper
I get that you're upset, but stop typing with your face. It's hard to understand you.
Secondly, no, they can't. A lot of coaches with very good rosters get fired all the time because they employ strategies that don't or won't work with their teams.
The Leafs don't have a large team. They don't have a grinding team. They don't have a heavy team. They have a fast up-tempo team. The strategy being employed by Babcock suits the players he has very well. That's why they are 21-10-2. |
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senstroll
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Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON Joined: 02.22.2008
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bryant
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Location: ON Joined: 06.28.2011
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They are 21-10-2. Chill. A couple of losses, and you're back in the land of Brophy.
The stretch pass isn't my favourite, but the biggest problem with the Leafs outlet approach is that Ozhiganov and Zaitsev can't complete a forward pass to save their lives. It's also why Quinn's #1 priority in a defenseman was the ability to make a good outlet pass. - Monkeypunk
If they’re going to be using the stretch pass more than any other team they should have those guys practicing those passes everyday. There’s no excuse especially for Zaitsev, but he is just so bad at it. |
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Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Whenever, wherever, ON Joined: 06.27.2013
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If they’re going to be using the stretch pass more than any other team they should have those guys practicing those passes everyday. There’s no excuse especially for Zaitsev, but he is just so bad at it. - bryant
I wouldn't argue that - but that's on them, not the coaching staff. The fact that Zaitsev and Ozhiganov can't seem to get ANY better at it is mind boggling. Christ. If you can't complete a pass, just be an off-the-glass-and-out kind of guy. The visible distance that both of these guys miss their targets by is astonishing in a professional player. |
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bixll
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Location: New Glasgow, NS Joined: 09.04.2008
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A couple of bad games, and it is trade the team, shoot the coach, he sucks anyway.
WTF Leaf fans... Cheers |
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bryant
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: ON Joined: 06.28.2011
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I wouldn't argue that - but that's on them, not the coaching staff. The fact that Zaitsev and Ozhiganov can't seem to get ANY better at it is mind boggling. Christ. If you can't complete a pass, just be an off-the-glass-and-out kind of guy. The visible distance that both of these guys miss their targets by is astonishing in a professional player. - Monkeypunk
Hell 15 mins a day just throwing those stretch passes I could get pretty good.
The biggest thing with Z or Oz is they defer a lot to their partners. They rely on them to make that pass because they can’t. So the time it takes them to send it back to their partner it allows the other teams to set up and close on the open players. If they make that first pass they can catch teams off guard but they miss those passes over and over again. |
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Its hard to say its a failure when they are outscoring teams like one of the best in the NHL.
here are a couple more articles on it..
https://theathletic.com/6...fs-can-better-utilize-it/
https://www.thepointhocke...still-the-right-approach/ - senstroll
I wouldnt say its a failure but it does explain why a team with so much offence is always in there own zone. Chances of a stretch pass is 50/50. So 50% of the time its turned over and coming back in the zone and if you miss it, its an icing and also coming back in the Zone. Plus on top of that if your forwards are blowing the zone all the time. Its added seconds for them to get back and help if it is turned over. Unless its a safe no brain stretch pass, the short coming out as a unit passes are the way to go Imo.
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