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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 17 @ 3:46 PM ET
Absolutely worthless.

So if Isaac had said they were firing him Monday they would've done it Sunday or waited till Tuesday?.

I was over Hak as the coach but treat the man with some respect. You're a pro sports team. I didn't think it was possible to rival the joke that the Sens had been for a while there but this franchise seems to be up for the challenge.

- Yosimar89


No, Isaac created a poopstorm for posting false information and the Flyers had to go into damage control. They refuted it because, at the time, it was true.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Dec 17 @ 3:48 PM ET
I'll go on record right now as 100% no on Gordon as head coach full time. Just don't like his time with the Isles. He can go back to Lehigh when new coach comes in
- dragonoffrost


I could see Gordo finishing out the year and being sent on his way, for Fletcher to bring in all new coaches at the NHL and AHL levels.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 17 @ 3:49 PM ET
I think I am more excited about not having pages after pages of MJL talk about why players don't get blamed for Hak doing an excellent job.
- Glak18


It's interesting. First of all, you're never right in your paraphrasing. You're also far more focused on what I say then I am about what you say. I just don't pay that much attention.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Dec 17 @ 3:49 PM ET
I could see Gordo finishing out the year and being sent on his way, for Fletcher to bring in all new coaches at the NHL and AHL levels.
- johndewar

If he fine with that also
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Dec 17 @ 3:50 PM ET
It's interesting. First of all, you're never right in your paraphrasing. Your also far more focused on what I say then I am about what you say. I just don't pay that much attention.
- MJL


AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Dec 17 @ 3:50 PM ET
Why do you think the PP is not scoring?
- MJL


Because they wanted Dave Hakstol to get fired but didn't know that Ron Hextall was gonna get the gate first, so they had to get extra clever
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 17 @ 3:51 PM ET
I could see Gordo finishing out the year and being sent on his way, for Fletcher to bring in all new coaches at the NHL and AHL levels.
- johndewar


bulet13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Faceoffs, Plus/Minus, and PIMs...the Holy Trinity, TX
Joined: 03.10.2013

Dec 17 @ 3:51 PM ET
Because they wanted Dave Hakstol to get fired but didn't know that Ron Hextall was gonna get the gate first, so they had to get extra clever
- AllInForFlyers


That tracks
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Dec 17 @ 3:51 PM ET
I could see Gordo finishing out the year and being sent on his way, for Fletcher to bring in all new coaches at the NHL and AHL levels.
- johndewar


Preach.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Dec 17 @ 3:52 PM ET

- jmatchett383

Hell no
Shrike
Joined: 05.20.2016

Dec 17 @ 3:54 PM ET
Hell no
- dragonoffrost

I believe iron mike is at home recovering from cancer at the moment.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 17 @ 3:54 PM ET
Because they wanted Dave Hakstol to get fired but didn't know that Ron Hextall was gonna get the gate first, so they had to get extra clever
- AllInForFlyers


I'm actually being serious. I think you probably have an idea why.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 17 @ 3:55 PM ET
Hell no
- dragonoffrost


https://deadspin.com/5807...ce-stormed-gretzkys-hotel

"[coach Mike Keenan] came in and ripped everybody, tore Gretzky a new ass, and I'm sure he'd never had that happen before, and that was it, he was like, I'm not re-signing here, I'm done."
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Dec 17 @ 3:56 PM ET
Because they wanted Dave Hakstol to get fired but didn't know that Ron Hextall was gonna get the gate first, so they had to get extra clever
- AllInForFlyers


Guess they will be light’n em up tomorrow night then.

AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Dec 17 @ 3:57 PM ET
https://deadspin.com/5807187/chris-pronger-thinks-he-is-not-on-air-says-a-poopfaced-mike-keenan-once-stormed-gretzkys-hotel

"

- jmatchett383[coach Mike Keenan] came in and ripped everybody, tore Gretzky a new ass, and I'm sure he'd never had that happen before, and that was it, he was like, I'm not re-signing here, I'm done."


I remember that -- man, that was awesome
Shrike
Joined: 05.20.2016

Dec 17 @ 3:59 PM ET
I remember that -- man, that was awesome
- AllInForFlyers

Mike Keenan might be the first person to go into remission because cancer left of its own accord.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Dec 17 @ 3:59 PM ET
if all the issues were the duo of Hextall and Hakstol I expect a relaxed team tomorrow. The effort and interaction in game will be telling.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Dec 17 @ 4:01 PM ET
I'm actually being serious. I think you probably have an idea why.
- MJL


To be honest with you, part of it's been bad puck luck around the net -- some, not all, but some had just been misfortune

Ghost has struggled some at ES, and he still gets too many shots blocked on the PP, but honestly, I don't think he's been the reason because of his overall struggles

I think Voracek tries to go cross-seam too much, which is why I saw glad they finally got him off. The play dies a bit too much on his side of the ice

But honestly, for the most part? It's all of it. Player struggles, coach not adapting, bad puck luck
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Dec 17 @ 4:05 PM ET
Just a side note.

You think Wentz magically gets healthy if the Eagles win against the Texans. You know he can't have what happened last year happen again.

I know "team player" yada yada yada but as a person it has to be in the back of his head.

- J35Bacher

my cowboys fan friend said he'd give 2 1st round picks to use for wentz
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 17 @ 4:05 PM ET
To be honest with you, part of it's been bad puck luck around the net -- some, not all, but some had just been misfortune

Ghost has struggled some at ES, and he still gets too many shots blocked on the PP, but honestly, I don't think he's been the reason because of his overall struggles

I think Voracek tries to go cross-seam too much, which is why I saw glad they finally got him off. The play dies a bit too much on his side of the ice

But honestly, for the most part? It's all of it. Player struggles, coach not adapting, bad puck luck

- AllInForFlyers


What I'm getting at is that any moderately informed hockey fan can see why the Flyers aren't scoring on the PP. It's not that complicated. So if we want to dismiss the assistant in charge bases on results, fine. Can we really say it due to bad coaching? I know its taboo but how about someone make a play! I don't agree about Gostisbehere though. He's been terrible on the PP. Now that Hakstol is gone, that will all change I guess.
mkabbeko
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.17.2013

Dec 17 @ 4:07 PM ET
arrgh, just said expects the interim coach to be here for the season and they have not asked permission to contact Q
- RajaAmpat


They said year, meaning the end of 2018.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Dec 17 @ 4:09 PM ET

So the media did cause Hak to be fired.

https://twitter.com/johnb.../1074772144909938688?s=21

Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Dec 17 @ 4:09 PM ET
Sorry if this was already discussed...why bring the Phantoms coach instead if just using one of the assistant coaches? Who's coaching the Phantoms?
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Dec 17 @ 4:10 PM ET
Im a STH and I do not hear anyone chanting fire Hak.
- youarewrong


A few fans in front of me at the Colorado game did.

It's not every home game but it's happened to a few.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Dec 17 @ 4:11 PM ET
So the media did cause Hak to be fired.

https://twitter.com/johnb.../1074772144909938688?s=21

- NC Flyers Fan


We did iiiittttt!!!

I’m still riding high here. Absolutely a wonderful feeling.
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