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HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Dec 17 @ 4:12 PM ET
I'm only worried about us.
- Der Kaiser


If you trade Ullmark, you should be.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Dec 17 @ 4:14 PM ET
Theyre in a position of strength at the wing and we're in a position of strength at G.

You have to give to get. A good trade is one that helps both sides and hurts both sides a little bit.

- Der Kaiser



You bring up a couple good points.

Fletcher is the guy who jbotts worked with in Pittsburgh
Also traded with for pommer and scandella.

If he's not still bitter about giving pommer away, he could definitely be a good trade partner.

Hagg or the other young defenseman possibly? Provorov is probably untouchable. Maybe gudas???????
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Dec 17 @ 4:15 PM ET
You bring up a couple good points.

Fletcher is the guy who jbotts worked with in Pittsburgh
Also traded with for pommer and scandella.

If he's not still bitter about giving pommer away, he could definitely be a good trade partner.

Hagg or the other young defenseman possibly? Provorov is probably untouchable. Maybe gudas???????

- Boss34


Dear God no!





homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Dec 17 @ 4:15 PM ET
If you trade Ullmark, you should be.
- HonkFortheGoose

Botts likes Johansson

doubt Ullmark gets moved any time soon but Johansson would be the call up if anything long term happens to either goalie
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Dec 17 @ 4:16 PM ET
Boss34
- Der Kaiser


This one struck a funny.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Dec 17 @ 4:17 PM ET
So long as he's not here, I'm good with it. It was an odd move to call him up IMO to begin with. I know Guhle hasn't had the best start this year, but Borgen has been really good down there, so why not give him a shot?

Just seemed like a head scratching move to bring Tennyson in when you've got some young guys that have a shot of being long term players for the organization.

- HonkFortheGoose


I don't think they ever intended to play Tennyson, and so they'd rather have Borgen playing in Rochester for the week instead of eating hot dogs and popcorn in the lounge and watching the game.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Dec 17 @ 4:18 PM ET
Dear God no!




- HonkFortheGoose



Who would replace bogo's mean streak if he goes down from an injury?

I know it's highly unlikely ( bogo injury)
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Dec 17 @ 4:19 PM ET
This one struck a funny.
- TheSabresTaco

👍

Me too
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Dec 17 @ 4:19 PM ET
Botts likes Johansson

doubt Ullmark gets moved any time soon but Johansson would be the call up if anything long term happens to either goalie

- homiedclown


I don't have anything against Johansson, but he has pretty little time even at the AHL level at this point. It would be nice to ease him in a bit more. No clue how he'd do at the NHL level yet. Though Ullmark did get thrown in a few years ago too, so maybe he'd be fine.

It's also interesting to me that at this point he's only 2 years younger than Ullmark and seems to just finally be getting some decent AHL time.
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Dec 17 @ 4:22 PM ET
I don't think they ever intended to play Tennyson, and so they'd rather have Borgen playing in Rochester for the week instead of eating hot dogs and popcorn in the lounge and watching the game.
- Wetbandit1


I thought that at first as well, but they sent him back down after the Florida roadtrip and then recalled him for the Philly game. Clearly when they recalled him the second time they knew he was going to play.
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Dec 17 @ 4:22 PM ET
Who would replace bogo's mean streak if he goes down from an injury?

I know it's highly unlikely ( bogo injury)

- Boss34


I dont' really care who does it. Gudas doesn't even belong in the NHL to begin with. I want nothing to do with him wearing the blue and gold.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Dec 17 @ 4:25 PM ET
I dont' really care who does it. Gudas doesn't even belong in the NHL to begin with. I want nothing to do with him wearing the blue and gold.
- HonkFortheGoose



Strong but respectable opinion
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Dec 17 @ 4:40 PM ET
Pilut isn't going anywhere, neither are 3 1st round picks

The only time in my life I will say I agree with Harrington

- Stripes77


The StL 1st rounder should definitely be off limits

I’d be open to moving the others as long as it wasn’t for rentals
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Dec 17 @ 4:46 PM ET
Who would replace bogo's mean streak if he goes down from an injury?

I know it's highly unlikely ( bogo injury)

- Boss34


Toughness isn’t that useful if the guy isn’t very good

Idc if we have someone who beats up the other team if we are losing 4-1

Now if the guy is tough,
AND
a good player...

Ok, now we’re talking
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Dec 17 @ 4:50 PM ET
Wow, some crazy-ass trade proposals/spitballs out there. I hope Pilut, UPL, Goalofson and the 3 firsts are off the table no matter what. Keep this team's cupboard full, JB!

I really like Sheary's game, too. There's been a few games where he's stunk it up but love his speed ,energy and his back-checking is best on this team. I would take 2 more Shearys in place of 21 and 29 if given the choice.

Bogo has been such a pleasant surprise this year....finally.

If JB can somehow get 6, 21 and 29 out the door (even if the return is a tub of hair grease from Peter Laviolette) it would be incredible.

- LandlordTom


Sheary has got to start scoring more though
So weird that he & Mitts can’t seem to get it going
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
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Joined: 10.07.2010

Dec 17 @ 4:51 PM ET
https://twitter.com/JeffVeillette/status/1074679506915467264

marner's dad worse than nylander's lol

- Sabresfan-365


"And in any other draft, if Connor's not there, you would've been talking about Mitch as first overall pick."

Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
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Joined: 10.07.2010

Dec 17 @ 4:52 PM ET
I thought that at first as well, but they sent him back down after the Florida roadtrip and then recalled him for the Philly game. Clearly when they recalled him the second time they knew he was going to play.
- HonkFortheGoose


Did he actually go back to Rochester, or was it a paper move to save cap?
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Dec 17 @ 4:58 PM ET
Did he actually go back to Rochester, or was it a paper move to save cap?
- Wetbandit1


Honestly, does it matter? If they knew that they were going to need someone for the weekend, they had better options. Instead they played him in 4 games. And, they clearly knew he couldn't hang just based on his ice time against LA.

It's probably the one head scratching move they've made this season. I also get the whole "we don't want to decimate Rochester" but at the end of the day, that team feeds the NHL team. The NHL teams success should be first and foremost. I'd understand a bit if the NHL team was AWFUL and the AHL one was killing it, but both are doing well. And if you have to sacrifice one for another, it should be the AHL team sacrificed for the NHL team.
gcomella34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Endicott, NY
Joined: 03.03.2015

Dec 17 @ 5:02 PM ET
I don't know if this was posted or not. But I just remembered all the discussion around "Culture" on these boards. I think this article sums it up best. Culture, in the way I'm betting JB is trying to build it, is based not upon a low scoring grinder that brings it every shift, but the expectation that all will bring their very best each game. WE will accept nothing less than full effort within your skill set. You still need talent to win.

What I love to see, is that Jack right now....he's doing BOTH.....and it's rubbing off on the other players.

Culture is the set of shared beliefs, values, and norms of an organization. It's just great to see insane talent coupled with continuous effort....and it's effect on the entire team.

https://theathletic.com/7...-deserves-a-winning-team/
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Dec 17 @ 5:04 PM ET
Skinner camp talking 9 mill a year, Sabres are talking 7.8 - 8.25 a year. Just some info to pass along.
gcomella34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Endicott, NY
Joined: 03.03.2015

Dec 17 @ 5:05 PM ET
Skinner camp talking 9 mill a year, Sabres are talking 7.8 - 8.25 a year. Just some info to pass along.
- SABRES 89


That's great news, that sounds like a deal can be reached pretty easily.

They have to sign him, he's on pace for 30 just after the new year (I think).
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Dec 17 @ 5:07 PM ET
Toughness isn’t that useful if the guy isn’t very good

Idc if we have someone who beats up the other team if we are losing 4-1

Now if the guy is tough,
AND
a good player...

Ok, now we’re talking

- jdfitz77


I think we're talking about Tom wilson?

Keep it quiet though....

Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Dec 17 @ 5:09 PM ET
I think we're talking about Tom wilson?

Keep it quiet though....

- Boss34



And:

I'm talking about replacing bogo with gudas if an injury were to happen

Not replacing risto or dahlin with gudas
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Dec 17 @ 5:19 PM ET
And:

I'm talking about replacing bogo with gudas if an injury were to happen

Not replacing risto or dahlin with gudas

- Boss34


Gudas is a no talent hack - as bad as Kaleta
Shadman306
Joined: 06.11.2015

Dec 17 @ 5:20 PM ET
Didnt back read.

There aren't rumors that we are trading Ullmark or Hutton are there?
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