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hpk90
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: North Potomac, MD
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Dec 17 @ 3:02 PM ET



- EnzoD


Ouch!
Return of the Roar
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Solidly grounded in reality, IL
Joined: 07.27.2009

Dec 17 @ 3:08 PM ET
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Rota's Rooter
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2017

Dec 17 @ 3:09 PM ET
EVERY team has a "shot" at the SC. What is your contention? They will be "guaranteed" to be in the finals?
- Chunk

You've never paid attention to our very own PE before?

RedRevenge
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 04.18.2017

Dec 17 @ 3:20 PM ET
The only problem with that is finding contenders that can afford to carry his $5.5ml cap hit for the next four seasons.
- walleyeb1



I'm sure we can retain ~1 million. A 4 million Keith seems very reasonable.
I Am The Breadman
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Richton Park, IL
Joined: 09.16.2018

Dec 17 @ 3:20 PM ET
Hahaha...
- BGKarras


Glad you liked it, haha.
Return of the Roar
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Dec 17 @ 3:28 PM ET

Mark Lazerus Retweeted
Frank Seravalli
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46m46 minutes ago

Chuck Fletcher says he expects Scott Gordon will be #Flyers coach for the remainder of the year. He says he hasn't asked for permission from Chicago to speak to Quenneville and hasn't spoken to him in two years.
6 replies 46 retweets 90 likes
I Am The Breadman
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Dec 17 @ 3:47 PM ET
Mark Lazerus Retweeted
Frank Seravalli
‏Verified account @frank_seravalli
46m46 minutes ago

Chuck Fletcher says he expects Scott Gordon will be #Flyers coach for the remainder of the year. He says he hasn't asked for permission from Chicago to speak to Quenneville and hasn't spoken to him in two years.
6 replies 46 retweets 90 likes

- Return of the Roar


This isn't directed at you, because I appreciate the update, but maybe remainder of the year could be taken as 2018. Turn the page on a calendar year and bring Q in.
Return of the Roar
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Solidly grounded in reality, IL
Joined: 07.27.2009

Dec 17 @ 3:48 PM ET
This isn't directed at you, because I appreciate the update, but maybe rest of the year could be taken as 2018. Turn the page on a calendar year and bring Q in.
- I Am The Breadman


Issue is not that as much as the last two parts. They haven't even talked to Q yet.
Taylorst1
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 07.09.2018

Dec 17 @ 3:48 PM ET
What team has 20 million in cap space as well as the assets to do that.😂😂😂😂
- Abadseed



Well everyone speculation is Keith and Crawford are going to Philly that's almost 12 million in salary? So it's not a unrealistic stretch or theory.

I Am The Breadman
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Dec 17 @ 3:49 PM ET
Issue is not that as much as the last two parts. They haven't even talked to Q yet.
- Return of the Roar


I wonder who (and when) wins the Q lottery?
Return of the Roar
Chicago Blackhawks
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Dec 17 @ 3:50 PM ET
I wonder who (and when) wins the Q lottery?
- I Am The Breadman


Seattle
Taylorst1
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Dec 17 @ 3:50 PM ET
This isn't directed at you, because I appreciate the update, but maybe remainder of the year could be taken as 2018. Turn the page on a calendar year and bring Q in.
- I Am The Breadman



I was th8nking the same thing. It's called word gymnastics.
I Am The Breadman
Chicago Blackhawks
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Dec 17 @ 3:51 PM ET
Seattle
- Return of the Roar


I already like them if that's the case, haha.
I Am The Breadman
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Dec 17 @ 3:52 PM ET
I was th8nking the same thing. It's called word gymnastics.
- Taylorst1


Hahaha, or taking things for the literal meaning. We oughta be lawyers.....
resqmed99
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Dec 17 @ 3:53 PM ET
Issue is not that as much as the last two parts. They haven't even talked to Q yet.
- Return of the Roar


Because if they didn't have the Blackhawks approval, wouldn't that have been tampering? Seems like a coverup! I agree with others that it will be a January 2019 move.
Return of the Roar
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Dec 17 @ 3:55 PM ET
Because if they didn't have the Blackhawks approval, wouldn't that have been tampering? Seems like a coverup! I agree with others that it will be a January 2019 move.
- resqmed99


Yes it would be.

There are so many reasons why Q shouldn't/likely wouldn't go to PHI. Mainly that they are a crapstorm as well, without a decent goalie to boot.

I see Q at this stage in his career preferring the chance to build a team instead of rebuild one as his legacy act.
ObeseOprah
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 01.17.2014

Dec 17 @ 4:13 PM ET
It's a real shame about Crawford. I hope he either takes as long as he absolutely needs before even considering coming back, or hangs them up. His health is more important than hockey.

Do the Hawks LTIR him next year or try to get another team to eat his salary and then LTIR him on Day 2 of the season? This could free up $6 Million next year. The NHL's LTIR setup really hamstrings teams who have big time injuries to large cap players. They can't make any moves until the second day of the season for LTIR.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Dec 17 @ 4:19 PM ET
It's a real shame about Crawford. I hope he either takes as long as he absolutely needs before even considering coming back, or hangs them up. His health is more important than hockey.

Do the Hawks LTIR him next year or try to get another team to eat his salary and then LTIR him on Day 2 of the season? This could free up $6 Million next year. The NHL's LTIR setup really hamstrings teams who have big time injuries to large cap players. They can't make any moves until the second day of the season for LTIR.

- ObeseOprah

Not really a big deal for the Hawks for next season. They will have ~17M in cap space going into next season and any RFA they have shouldn't make more than what they make currently. Or they get a very modest increase.

This team should NOT be signing any name FAs at all. The last thing you want is a poopty team and cap troubles.
Elbows15
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Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
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Dec 17 @ 4:21 PM ET
Not sure why Q would pick Philly. They suck.
Elbows15
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Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
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Dec 17 @ 4:24 PM ET
I wonder who (and when) wins the Q lottery?
- I Am The Breadman

Doesn't matter. They won't win a Cup with Q as coach. Pretty sure no HC ever won Cups with 2 organizations.
fattybeef
Joined: 05.04.2010

Dec 17 @ 4:26 PM ET
Doesn't matter. They won't win a Cup with Q as coach. Pretty sure no HC ever won Cups with 2 organizations.
- Elbows15


You being sarcastic?
powerenforcer
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wheeling, IL
Joined: 09.24.2009

Dec 17 @ 4:27 PM ET
Doesn't matter. They won't win a Cup with Q as coach. Pretty sure no HC ever won Cups with 2 organizations.
- Elbows15


I'm telling you, Seattle is where Q is coaching next.
TheTrob
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Oak Park, IL
Joined: 04.14.2010

Dec 17 @ 4:29 PM ET
The problems in dealing Keith are:

1. No serious contenders have the cap space/willingness to trade value for value
2. If he is playing poorly because he wants to win, who would he waive for?
3. See #1
4. If this is in fact his attitude, no one may want him.

On Q.....

I think he may be negotiating with Seattle
as a possibility as well. More opportunity with a clean slate to have a hand in building the roster, and maybe even a better chance to lose someone from our roster via NMC waiver to play with Q and not have cap implications to be concerned with.

Just a thought.

On Crawford.....

Poke check defense, complete absence of physical play, and lack of willingness to stand up for your teammates INVITED this situation. Teams have nothing to fear by running any of the Hawks.

Jesus Christ, if NOT ONE GUY could stand up for the one guy who has stood up for this sorry excuse for a team every night he was out there, what message does that send to the rest of the league, let alone your own teammates??

CC should just LTIR it through the balance of his contract and retire a Hall of Famer to his significant other and their child and call it a career.

Wonder how any subsequent goalie feels now about the lack of response from their teammates going forward.....

Sorry for the rant. VERY ticked off right now.

- Return of the Roar


While I think you may be right, it has very little to do with the current Hawks or any roster moves they are going to make in the next 2 years.

Expansion draft for Seattle is still 2.5 years away.

ratpackid
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.11.2010

Dec 17 @ 4:29 PM ET
Doesn't matter. They won't win a Cup with Q as coach. Pretty sure no HC ever won Cups with 2 organizations.
- Elbows15


Scotty Bowman won the cup with 3 different teams as a head coach
I Am The Breadman
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Richton Park, IL
Joined: 09.16.2018

Dec 17 @ 4:30 PM ET
Scotty Bowman won the cup with 3 different teams as a head coach
- ratpackid


He was the first guy I thought of, but I think the odds are heavily stacked against.
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