Who cares about his Pennis, roids will help his pencils.
- Garnie

Ha. Over/Under: 22 Pennis goals this season?

Leafs should ask about Maroon... he’s no speedster, but has good hands, can finish and police some of the knuckleheads out there. And St. Louis is going nowhere fast.
Put a big deal together for him and Parayko...
- dozerD10

That is a great idea

Maroon and Parayko for Zaitsev, Brown, Liljegren and a 1st in 2019.

- AdamFrench

Seriously.

I'll throw my 2 cents out there

At or before Trade deadline day

Philadelphia
Bracco
Brown
Gardiner (sign and trade maybe)

Toronto
Simmonds
Provavov

Nathan Horton LTIR
Cap space saved

Chicago
Phil kessels remaining 1.8 x 4 years
Ron Hanisey
Holl
Leafs 1st 2019

Toronto
Keith
Future Considerations

Carolina
Chicago's future considerations
3rd 2020
Sparks

Toronto
Mckalanney (spelling)

Leafs new core
Kappanen Matthews Hyman
Simmonds Tavares Marner
Nylander Kadri Marleau
Johnnson Lindholm Moore *

Reilly Keith
Provarov Dermott
Zeitzev Oziganov (spelling)

Andersen
Mckalanney
*Marlie
- DrEnvironmentalist

How do we trade Kessel's cap hit?

How do we trade Kessel's cap hit?
- PatC80

Can you do that?

I don't think you can do that.

Otherwise Arizona would be ALL OVER THIS.

Can you do that?

I don't think you can do that.
- Scabeh

I didn't think so either.. But hopefully, Pridham, Gilman and Dubas find a way to circumvent the rules.

How do we trade Kessel's cap hit?
- PatC80

Bring him back for the cup run and trade him again in the summer?

Ha. Over/Under: 22 Pennis goals this season?
- Byfuglien Ate Me

Under

I'll throw my 2 cents out there

At or before Trade deadline day

Philadelphia
Bracco
Brown
Gardiner (sign and trade maybe)

Toronto
Simmonds
Provavov

Nathan Horton LTIR
Cap space saved


- DrEnvironmentalist

Let's call Gardiner for Simmonds a fair trade. In fact, some would argue that Gardiner is the better asset here - but let's not worry too much about that.

So that leaves Brown and Bracco for Provarov. That's so absurd I don't think we have to spend any more time discussing it.

And then we are throwing in Horton's LTIR - to a team that traditionally spends to the cap?

I'm guessing Philly will reject this - but I suggest you go into the Flyers thread and see if you have any buyers.

No, seriously: I dare you.

Chicago
Phil kessels remaining 1.8 x 4 years
Ron Hanisey
Holl
Leafs 1st 2019

Toronto
Keith
Future Considerations

- DrEnvironmentalist

So Keith for a first?

And as everyone reported, you can't trade Kessel's salary.

Carolina
Chicago's future considerations
3rd 2020
Sparks

Toronto
MakeaSavey


- DrEnvironmentalist

Why?

I didn't think so either.. But hopefully, Pridham, Gilman and Dubas find a way to circumvent the rules.
- PatC80

Lou was pretty good at cheati... I mean.... "circumventing the rules"

Bumping this from yesterday's thread, because I am an S.O.B.:

For your information Mr. Know It All, I graduated from one of the top high schools in the state of Illinois and then graduated from a prestigious Liberal Arts College in Michigan where I also played on a National Champion Division 3 Hockey club while earning a double major in journalism and history.

Now have a warm glass of milk and go to bed.
- royalgardens

Maybe I'm doing this wrong, but I don't see any DIII champions from Michigan:

https://www.ncaa.com/history/icehockey-men/d3

Can you do that?

I don't think you can do that.

Otherwise Arizona would be ALL OVER THIS.
- Scabeh

I don't actually know the answer to this question: is Toronto still paying actual money to Kessel, or is it just retained cap hit?

Bumping this from yesterday's thread, because I am an S.O.B.:



Maybe I'm doing this wrong, but I don't see any DIII champions from Michigan:

https://www.ncaa.com/history/icehockey-men/d3
- Atomic Wedgie

How was the milk though?

I don't actually know the answer to this question: is Toronto still paying actual money to Kessel, or is it just retained cap hit?
- Atomic Wedgie

I believe it's salary retained, which affects the cap hit.

When we lose, this place will be worse then ever.
- Garnie

Fixed

I wouldn't expect the Leafs to grab a guy like Parayko or Pietrangelo by the deadline. Blues will want Nylander but Dubas won't trade him until after July, if at all.

I'm guessing, (depending on Gardiner's contract demands) that we'll end up seeing a C.Tanev for Holl + 2nd type deal, or a Kapanen for Pesce type exchange. A guy that will be around past this year at a reasonable cap hit. I think a guy like Marchment would get called up to add grit rather than trading for a depth winger.

Next year's D-pairings:

Rielly-Tanev/Pesce
Dermott-Zaitsev
Rosen-Ozhiganov
Borgman- depth league minimum guy

There are a few depth Marlie forwards who should be ready and capable to take bottom 6 roles next year. The cap will be tight, so let hope its enough to be a contender. This year might be our best chance

I don't actually know the answer to this question: is Toronto still paying actual money to Kessel, or is it just retained cap hit?
- Atomic Wedgie

As far as I remember from the CBA, the team retaining has both the cap hit and the financial obligations from the retention. I assume to help out the smaller market teams who might want to acquire a guy but not pay as much in actual $.

As an interesting aside, if a player traded with salary retained is sent to the minors, the team that traded them does not receive any financial benefit from the player being sent down, while the team sending them to the minors can bury up to the regular amount.

Fixed

- RippedFuel

You think?

We'll put a friendly wager on it if the time comes.

Lou was pretty good at cheati... I mean.... "circumventing the rules"
- Scabeh

Lou was a beauty.

Let him go two years too soon. He was perfect to negotiate these contracts.

Lou was a beauty.

Let him go two years too soon. He was perfect to negotiate these contracts.
- Byfuglien Ate Me

Then again Dubas got JT and was the lead on the presentation so that worked out.

Lou was a beauty.

Let him go two years too soon. He was perfect to negotiate these contracts.
- Byfuglien Ate Me

Uhh, I don't know about that. If he WAS so good, would Tavares be a Leaf? Or would Komarov? And Matt Martin?

Uhh, I don't know about that. If he WAS so good, would Tavares be a Leaf? Or would Komarov? And Matt Martin?
- prock

Tavares always would have signed with Leafs.
Even with Nonis as GM and Ron Wilson as coach.

i bought a Marner, Nylander and Kapanen rookie cards on the weekend..so we cant trade them.

cc Dubas

1. PHI not trading Provorov, TOR not trading Brown since he is someone Babcock trusts.

2. You cannot trade money retained on a deal and Keith is not RH or the player he was a couple years ago.

3. Dubas is not trading Sparks, otherwise it is an admission that waiving McElhinney and Pickard was a mistake.

I'll throw my 2 cents out there

At or before Trade deadline day

Philadelphia
Bracco
Brown
Gardiner (sign and trade maybe)

Toronto
Simmonds
Provavov

Nathan Horton LTIR
Cap space saved

Chicago
Phil kessels remaining 1.8 x 4 years
Ron Hanisey
Holl
Leafs 1st 2019

Toronto
Keith
Future Considerations

Carolina
Chicago's future considerations
3rd 2020
Sparks

Toronto
Mckalanney (spelling)

Leafs new core
Kappanen Matthews Hyman
Simmonds Tavares Marner
Nylander Kadri Marleau
Johnnson Lindholm Moore *

Reilly Keith
Provarov Dermott
Zeitzev Oziganov (spelling)

Andersen
Mckalanney
*Marlie
- DrEnvironmentalist

1. PHI not trading Provorov, TOR not trading Brown since he is someone Babcock trusts.

2. You cannot trade money retained on a deal and Keith is not RH or the player he was a couple years ago.

3. Dubas is not trading Sparks, otherwise it is an admission that waiving McElhinney and Pickard was a mistake.
- mikeinbuffalo

but the actual question is whether Leafs can get Doughty, Kempe and a 1st for Nylander.