57?

Says 47 on the sheet i use?


- Garnie

Roger?

Babcock was the reason he was traded.
- RogerRoeper

Meh. Who cares.
Also, it was reported that dubas had said to leivo that he would move him if he wasnt gonna get more ice time.
Maybe he just kept his word.

Roger?
- Garnie

But the 4th line is struggling since he left.
And not fitting into Toronto's top 9 is crap. He's clearly better than guys in the top 9.
Remember when Kapanen was on the 4th line last season?
- RogerRoeper

Uh?
Who in our top 9 is he better than?

Hint.

NO ONE.

I wonder how much the Flyers would want for Gudas?

I wonder how much the Flyers would want for Gudas?
- gravyface

A meh player, probably not much.

Id prefer senheim, younger, more upside imo.
But i doubt the flyers move him.
Dunno.

3 outta 4 this week.

GO LEAFS GO

Hyman Matthews Nylander
Johnsson JT Kap
Marleau Kadri Marner

I like those again

Hopefully it sticks.

Uh?
Who in our top 9 is he better than?

Hint.

NO ONE.
- Fakepartofme

Have you not watch Patrick Marleau this season?

A meh player, probably not much.

Id prefer sanheim, younger, more upside imo.
But i doubt the flyers move him.
Dunno.
- Fakepartofme

probably a 1st and good F prospect...

I'm so happy the contraversy is over which journeyman depth guys we cut loose because we have half a dozen all stars on the roster.
- Zezel

Kapanen was a depth guy last year. Remember that.

Just because Babs doesn't view Leivo as very good does not make it so.

Kapanen was a depth guy last year. Remember that.

Just because Babs doesn't view Leivo as very good does not make it so.
- RogerRoeper

Leivo just wasn't good enough to be an everyday player for the Leafs. That's elite company though and hardly makes him a bad player.

Leivo just wasn't good enough to be an everyday player for the Leafs. That's elite company though and hardly makes him a bad player.
- TrashPanda

He was never given a chance.

neither of those 2 goals he has scored for the Nucks reminded of Pavel Bure - both goals insanely dirty and lucky...!
- 21peter

I don't want to nitpick here, and I don't really have a stone to throw in this argument although I really like Leivo as a depth player, but I would like to point out he's actually had 3 goals as a Nuck now, not two.
Just so the facts are clear

A meh player, probably not much.

Id prefer senheim, younger, more upside imo.
But i doubt the flyers move him.
Dunno.
- Fakepartofme

He's excellent defensively and plays with an edge; he's also an underrated puck mover and good skater. He's a younger better modern version of Polak.

Kapanen was a depth guy last year. Remember that.

Just because Babs doesn't view Leivo as very good does not make it so.
- RogerRoeper

Love the way Mike has handled Kasperi. Really helped mold him into a top 6 player that we are seeing this year. Wasn't ready for that role last year, so good on Mike for working with him and putting him on the 4th line where he could steadily grow.

Leafs made the exact same mistake with Corrado and Carrick. You just can't let great players slip through your hands.

Kapanen was a depth guy last year. Remember that.

Just because Babs doesn't view Leivo as very good does not make it so.
- RogerRoeper

Babs had him in the lineup every game, thats pretty good after signing JT and promoting Johnsson who seems better then Leivo by my eye test.


He wanted more then 4th line mins which he wouldnt get or deserve imo

Good on the Leafs for doing him a fav.

What site do you use for CF% as you said he was 57% last night?

He was never given a chance.
- RogerRoeper

He was given a chance EVERY SINGLE DAY he was at the rink.

It didn't work out. People need to get over that.

I don't want to nitpick here, and I don't really have a stone to throw in this argument although I really like Leivo as a depth player, but I would like to point out he's actually had 3 goals as a Nuck now, not two.
Just so the facts are clear
- UsernameUnknown

I just looked at the last 5, was sure he didn't play more than 5 for the Nucks - time sure flies

He was given a chance EVERY SINGLE DAY he was at the rink.

It didn't work out. People need to get over that.
- TrashPanda

Seriously though, they never game him a chance. Drafted in 2011, what's a guy able to show in only 8 shorts seasons? You try showing how good you are in only 8 years.

He was given a chance EVERY SINGLE DAY he was at the rink.

It didn't work out. People need to get over that.
- TrashPanda

Nucks are 4-1-1 since Leivo has been in the lineup
Leafs are 2-2-2 since the trade.

This tells me everything I need to know.

Nucks are 4-1-1 since Leivo has been in the lineup
Leafs are 2-2-2 since the trade.

This tells me everything I need to know.
- UsernameUnknown

What do you guys think of adding Wayne Simmonds at the deadline? Flyers are probably going to want a prospect close to the NHL rather than a pick. Simmonds and a conditional pick for Liljegren? Condition being whether you re-sign Simmonds or not.
- hereticpride

I love the idea of Simmonds but the Leafs are not going to trade from a position of weakness (D-men, notably a right shot) for a position of strength (top 9 forwards).

Marleau Matthews Kapanen
Ennis Tavares Marner
Hyman Kadri Brown
Johnsson Lindholm Nylander 🇸🇪

Nucks are 4-1-1 since Leivo has been in the lineup
Leafs are 2-2-2 since the trade.

This tells me everything I need to know.
- UsernameUnknown

Exactly.. these are facts